IDF vs. PDF

discus

Here's a handy link for some people on here.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/context

Now, next time someone feels like they need to correct a posters use of IDF, or PDF, could the refer themselves right here. I'd be glad to clarify anything for someone who can't grasp the context of a post.

This will be locked or deleted, and I probably will be banned for this, but people are quick to be a smartarse when a new poster ventures into this here military forum. It's unnecessary and petty.

Donny5

Ha, you're right. How often does anyone ever confuse indirect fire with the Intel Developer Forum, or the International Development Fund, or Ile De France, or interrupt driven IO or the old Iceland Defence Force.

xflyer

Would EDF be legitimate? Eire Defence Force? No:(. Why not??

Local-womanizer

I know some people are smart-asses about it but the more regular here usually just put people right without much fuss.

But what about IMF, Irish Military Forces? :pac:

discus

No one wants to be associated with that acronym!

Donny5

xflyer wrote: »

Would EDF be legitimate? Eire Defence Force? No:(. Why not??

Nah, Estonia got there ahead of us.

Manic Moran

Well, yay and nay.

The Israelis do get talked about often enough on this board that one cannot blankly assume that IDF must mean "Irish", and when I say "IDF in Lebanon" does that mean the Izzies or the Paddies? Although your context point is valid, it's probably not bad practise for the forum to maintain a consistant definition.

NTM

time lord

QUOTE=discus;72624098]Here's a handy link for some people on here.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/context

Now, next time someone feels like they need to correct a posters use of IDF, or PDF, could the refer themselves right here. I'd be glad to clarify anything for someone who can't grasp the context of a post.

This will be locked or deleted, and I probably will be banned for this, but people are quick to be a smartarse when a new poster ventures into this here military forum. It's unnecessary and petty.[/QUOTE]


Good post. Happened me too here on this forum. They "wait in the wings" and then thank each other for pulling nubies up on such trivial crap and missing the invaluable strength brought to any forum by an interested new poster.

Up until recently there was over 50 years combined P.D.F. service in my household and nobody would ever of had a problem with the term I.D.F.
Probably a term which fell from use when the Leb trips got imbedded on the Defence Forces psyche but it was used by serving soldiers of all ranks.

Words and terms come and go within "armies". We constantly used the term MUFTI in the army but it may well be dead forever now. Newer words used in the army could be a "mooch" or the old favourite buckshee or I relocated it:D A favourite phrase in the army used be " oh you're good, you'll be kept" came from demob times that one but in the 80's was still alive and well in the Curragh.
Yeah yeah I hear you now. The Curragh the land that time forgot:)

I say again, you who lurk in the wings to pull new posters back off. How good is any forum if it ends up with only a dozen or so contributors? Don't be a "barrack room lawyer". Pure army that one too;)

triskell

discus wrote: »

Here's a handy link for some people on here.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/context

Now, next time someone feels like they need to correct a posters use of IDF, or PDF, could the refer themselves right here. I'd be glad to clarify anything for someone who can't grasp the context of a post.

This will be locked or deleted, and I probably will be banned for this, but people are quick to be a smartarse when a new poster ventures into this here military forum. It's unnecessary and petty.

It's not being a smartarse (but you are intitled to your opinion) it's just that the irish military is not called the IDF, it's called the PDF by every seving member and ex member of both the army and the reserve is now called RDF not FCA. it is an issue for PDF who served in the Lebanon in the 80's and 90's for us who were over there it's not nitpicking it's just they way it is.
I merely pointed out to the op on the other thread the proper title with no bitching.

arybvtcw0eolkf

xflyer wrote: »

Eire Defence Force? No:(. Why not??

Because its two different languages.

I remember an extradition case a few years ago when a man wanted for terrorist activities in the UK fought (and won) his extradition case on the grounds that his address was wrote in to languages, ie;

Micky Mouse.

69 Sexy Street.

Eire.

Just saying!.

Fratton Fred

xflyer wrote: »

Would EDF be legitimate? Eire Defence Force? No:(. Why not??

Electricite De Francais (pardon my French)

Dublin_Gunner

time lord wrote: »

QUOTE=discus;72624098]
Words and terms come and go within "armies". We constantly used the term MUFTI in the army but it may well be dead forever now. Newer words used in the army could be a "mooch" or the old favourite buckshee or I relocated it:D A favourite phrase in the army used be " oh you're good, you'll be kept" came from demob times that one but in the 80's was still alive and well in the Curragh.
Yeah yeah I hear you now. The Curragh the land that time forgot:)

I say again, you who lurk in the wings to pull new posters back off. How good is any forum if it ends up with only a dozen or so contributors? Don't be a "barrack room lawyer". Pure army that one too;)

In my office we use the term MUFTI for casual Friday.

I'm not a member of the military nor ever have been, but I would always assume IDF meant the Isreali's.

How about IrA to avoid confusion?

xflyer

Well as my sensible suggestion that EDF is rejected and someone has misappropriated the IRA, how about ARI? Army of the Republic of Ireland? What about DFI?

Or maybe, just maybe, certain people stop being a pedantic winker and assume that when someone from a foreign country comes onto an IRISH website and say IDF, they might, just might be referring to the Irish Defence Forces!

Or is that too sensible an idea?

I'm pretty sure the Israelis have their own website where there is no confusion about their forces and an obscure island off the west coast of Europe.:rolleyes:

This is just such a BS internet subject!

time lord

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

In my office we use the term MUFTI for casual Friday.

I'm not a member of the military nor ever have been, but I would always assume IDF meant the Isreali's.

How about IrA to avoid confusion?

Not a bad usage. We used it for wearing civies. Think its in some dictionarys.

el oh el

what about OnhE or ÓnhÉ? (As in Óglaigh na hÉireann)
Not much to confuse it with...

SIRREX

This is a subject which the Defence forces themselves are addressing. the new uniforms being issued carry the identifying tag "Defence Forces Ireland" so perhaps going forward DFI will be the correct abbreviation

Daniel S

Why not IrDF for Irish and IsDF for Israeli?