Knee over pedal

templer27

Just wondering how is your KOP position,I checked mine and its a little forward.Well its quite a lot forward should I put my saddle back and use a shorter stem?

Explosive_Cornflake

Saddle back anyway, it shouldn't be going over the front.
The stem is a seperate issue as it shouldn't have much of an effect on that, i.e. you should be sitting on the saddle properly.

templer27

Explosive_Cornflake wrote: »

Saddle back anyway, it shouldn't be going over the front.
The stem is a seperate issue as it shouldn't have much of an effect on that, i.e. you should be sitting on the saddle properly.

Cheers Cornflake on my current positon if I put the saddle back my reach to the hoods is too great.So I will need a shorter stem.I have one so its no problem.

ktz84

There is absolutely not science to say KOPS is the "correct" position and indeed I have had a professional bike fitting done which puts my knee forward off that position too and far from causing injury I have gone from persistent recurring injuries to no injuries related to bike fit.

As for what will or will not work for you well I haven't a clue. What I will say is whatever you do do it conservatively and give it a proper chance to settle in unless of course you are getting real pain in which case you immediately move back to where you were and try something else.

Why are you looking at adjusting your position?

templer27

ktz84 wrote: »

There is absolutely not science to say KOPS is the "correct" position and indeed I have had a professional bike fitting done which puts my knee forward off that position too and far from causing injury I have gone from persistent recurring injuries to no injuries related to bike fit.

As for what will or will not work for you well I haven't a clue. What I will say is whatever you do do it conservatively and give it a proper chance to settle in unless of course you are getting real pain in which case you immediately move back to where you were and try something else.

Why are you looking at adjusting your position?

I think I'm not getting full power when I cycle.Its more likerly than my saddle height is too low.I sometimes get pains in my knee's,classic sign of a saddle too low?

Its interesting that you got a pro bike fit and your KOP position is forward.I always thought the KOP position was sacred,now I know its not.

ktz84

Plenty of sacred cows espoused by the dummies who fit by rote. Yes I can be that disparaging as I paid good money to 3 different bike fitters in Ireland who shoved me into computer generated positions which were not just torturous to me but actually left me injured.

Here's a great resource of information on bike fitting if you have never seen it before and have hours to spend trawling through it:

http://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/blog/

Knee pain can be the result of many bike fit issues as well as overuse issues so it's not the easiest thing to work with. You are right that a low saddle could cause this but then again so can too high a saddle, or maybe a cleat fore/aft position or angle, maybe you have a leg length discrepency, etc, etc.

If you feel that the saddle is too low then try and higher position (go slow as small changes can make big differences) and see how you get on. If you feel the knee is very far forward of centre then knocking the saddle back a bit may be worth a shot (bear in mind as you go back saddle position should be lowered however if you think it is too low to start with then maybe leave height alone and just move back that way you will go some way towards or even eliminating the saddle height issue). Pay particular attention to where you start to feel any new strain ie shoulders, lower back, arms, ar$e as they will be signs that you are perhaps throwing too much weight in that direction so move back and try something else. Give it a chance though if you do feel it is yielding other benefits as may find that the strain disappears after a ride or two.

Above all make sure you note your current position so that you can move back to it when you encounter problems (you'll be lucky if you get it right straight away).

Good luck.