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  • 05-06-2011 4:01pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 19


    Hi

    wondering about friend who has just started new job and would like
    to start private health insurance but is unsure what one is the best to
    go for. Company working for does not have one.

    Thanks


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,151 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    And again, moved from Helpdesk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 750 ✭✭✭broker2008


    There are 212 health plans to choose from at the moment.

    3 questions to ask is type of cover that he/she wants; public, private or high tech hospital.? Lower premium with an excess to pay? Cover required for outpatient cover, ie doctor visits ?

    Any issue with Quinn, Aviva or Vhi ?

    Any previous cover? If so how long for, which company, which plan? renewal date?

    Kinda like choosing upc v sky v eircom, usage? importance of broadband v tv, home phone usage?


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 finolamck


    thanks for reply

    will tell her to check same

    Fin


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    tell her to check out this comparsion website - its really easy to use and it will tell her what is the best policy for her


    http://www.hia.ie/


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 finolamck


    great thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,748 ✭✭✭funnyname


    broker2008 wrote: »
    There are 212 health plans to choose from at the moment.

    3 questions to ask is type of cover that he/she wants; public, private or high tech hospital.? Lower premium with an excess to pay? Cover required for outpatient cover, ie doctor visits ?

    Any issue with Quinn, Aviva or Vhi ?

    Any previous cover? If so how long for, which company, which plan? renewal date?

    Kinda like choosing upc v sky v eircom, usage? importance of broadband v tv, home phone usage?

    212 is way too many, they reduce the number to a max of 10 per company, way too confusing!

    I say that because I've just started looking and I haven't a scooby which benefits to choose. What's the story with waiting times if you decide to up your level of cover from one year to the next?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭NuMarvel


    OP, I'm just going to copy and paste a post from an older thread, if that's okay with you :D:
    NuMarvel wrote: »
    Basically, have a think about what kind of cover you want before looking at the plans. There are nearly 200 plans on the market now so it's no wonder you're already pulling your hair out. The HIA guides go through it in more detail, but in summary this is what you need to think about:

    What kind of hospitals do you want cover in?
    In Ireland there are public hospitals (state owned or funded. Primarily public patients but access to private facilities), private hospitals (privately owned) and hi-tech hospitals (large private hospitals with very specialised equipment).

    In terms of costs, products that give full cover in public hospitals are cheaper than those that give full cover in private hospitals. And products that give full cover in h-tech hospitals are the most expensive.

    Most people in Ireland, myself included, are on a product that gives them cover in public and private hospitals and partial cover in hi-tech hospitals. My reasoning for this is to give myself as wide a choice as hospital options, without breaking the bank. Some products include an excess for treatment in private or hi-tech hospitals, so make sure you’re aware of this.

    Even if you use a hospital not fully covered by your plan (e.g. your plan covers public hospitals and you use a hi tech hospital), most plans, but not all, will partially cover the hospital costs with you paying the balance.

    What kind of accommodation do you want in hospital?
    When in hospital you have two accommodation choices: a private room (room to yourself) or a semi private room (shared room with up to 5 other people).

    If you have a preference for a private room in your chosen hospital type, pick a product that covers that. Bear in mind though that neither insurers nor hospitals can guarantee the availability of a private room.

    Something else to bear in mind is that some private hospitals, especially the newer ones, only have private rooms – e.g. Whitfield Clinic in Waterford. If there’s a particular private hospital you want cover for, it wouldn’t be any harm to check what kind of rooms they have first.

    What illnesses are covered?
    For each insurer, any illness covered by their top level of cover will be covered by their most basic plan: the important thing is where you’re treated (i.e. hospital and accommodation) and not what you’re treated for.

    I mention this so you don’t think that you need to buy the most expensive plan to have all illnesses covered. In fact, some of the benefits of the most expensive plans (cover in hi-tech hospitals for major heart surgery and out-patient radiotherapy) are available on the most popular plans.

    That said, if there's a specific illness you're concerned about (e.g. family history, etc), see if you get any additional benefits for that.

    Out-patient cover
    Most traditional health insurance plans have very limited (i.e. as good as none) out-patient cover for GPs, physio, consultants, etc. However, alot of the newer products do, but still not full cover (usually around 50 to 60% cover).

    In any case, PAYE workers get tax relief at the standard rate (currently 20%) for some of these costs.

    Other benefits
    There are a plethora of other benefits available. For example, maternity cover, emergency cover while abroad, cover to travel abroad for treatment, screening, lifestyle benefits, nurselines, GP lines, cover in nursing homes after a hospital stay... and alot more. Have a think about what you think you'd like included on your cover and shop around accordingly.

    The most important stuff
    At this stage, starting out, probably the key thing to get right at the start is the kind of hospital cover you want as that's where the biggest expense is and it’s what the waiting periods primarily apply to. With regards to the other stuff (out-patient, lifestyle, nurselines, etc) don't get too bogged down in it right now.

    Joining
    A few points about joining - There's no medical to complete, it's a simple application (name, address, date of birth, etc). When you start health insurance for the first time, there are waiting period to serve, i.e. lengths of time to wait from the date of joining before certain types of cover kick in. This are age related and for under 55s they are:

    Initial waiting period of 26 weeks - Nothing is covered for the first 26 weeks except for hospital treatment due to an accident or injury.

    Maternity waiting period of 52 weeks - see above

    Pre existing waiting period of 5 years. This means any hospital treatment related to a condition present prior to your joining date isn't covered for the first 5 years of membership. You don't have to declare any illnesses; it's ultimately based on what a consultant says on a claim form. This is why I think you're ALWAYS best to ring your insurer before any treatment.

    The waiting periods above usually don't apply to out-patient cover [EDIT: for people under 50], so if you're getting physio for a bad back from years past, you can probably still claim for costs incurred after you join (as well check the exact terms before signing the dotted line).

    I think that covers most of the basics. The HIA website also has a comparison tool so use that as well, but like I said above, you're probably better having a rough idea of what you want before looking at the plans.


    Also, this thread might help if you're trying to figure out the difference between cover in public hospitals and private hospitals.

    There are plenty of other threads on health insurance on here (I'm picking ones I've posted on because they're the easiest for me to find), but if you've any questions, just shout.

    funnyname wrote: »
    I say that because I've just started looking and I haven't a scooby which benefits to choose. What's the story with waiting times if you decide to up your level of cover from one year to the next?

    If you change plans (be it with the same provider or switching to a different provider), there is a waiting period applicable to the additional cover for conditions that were present prior to the change in plan. The waiting period is 2 or 5 years depending on your age and health insurer.

    If the condition wasn't present before you switched plans OR if the cover you're claiming for was available on your previous plan, then it's not an issue.

    For maternity cover, there's a 52 week waiting period for additional maternity cover (42 weeks for Aviva for some maternity benefits). In the case of maternity, I think it's applicable from the date of changing plans, regardless of being pregnant or not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 750 ✭✭✭broker2008


    funnyname wrote: »
    212 is way too many, they reduce the number to a max of 10 per company, way too confusing!

    I say that because I've just started looking and I haven't a scooby which benefits to choose. What's the story with waiting times if you decide to up your level of cover from one year to the next?

    There are 218 plans now. :eek:

    Call a broker and ask for a steer and then narrow down search on the hia website. It is not infallible though as there are errors on the site so you should check with the individual insurers once you have narrowed down options.


  • Registered Users Posts: 750 ✭✭✭broker2008


    187 inpatient plans now.


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