Going to Liverpool

johnos1984

Marina day is almost upon me.

I'll be heading over to Liverpool on Saturday to collect my Morris Marina on Saturday and I'm just wondering what part of the registration document I'll need to bring back. I assume the seller won't let me take the entire V5.

Is there anything else I need. Once back I'll put a big write up about it and put up pictures of the final car

JoeySully

You MUST get the ENTIRE V5 except for the little bit or section at the end of the V5 which the seller fills in and sends off to Swansea (DVLA) to declare the car as being exported.

If you don't get the V5 then you will have to apply for it when you get home and that will take a few weeks.
Receipt with a date on it and Ferry ticket for VRT

corktina

in fact you should get the WHOLE doucment including the export bit as that bit is for use when the SELLER exports it.
If it were me I would print off the bit from the DVLA website where it says the seller should give you the whole V5C ((and that he should WRITE to the DVLA to tell them he has done so) just in case the seller doesnt believe you.

Daved_XB

One of the guys in my car club recently brought a car in from the UK & this is what he needed when he went to the NCT centre:

ID as in Licence or Passport
Document showing your PPS no and home address
A utility bill with your name and home address showing.
The vehicles V5 cert
Purchase invoice
Proof as to when the vehicle was imported I.E boat ticket.

Hope this helps

Dave

macplaxton

As above, GET THE WHOLE DOCUMENT. Tell the seller this now, so if they're unsure, the can confirm the procedures, rather than getting into a bind on the day.

INS160 Registration Certificate Guidance Notes - PDF Document (869 Kb) Information and Instructions on the new registration certificate, V5C

Current advice from the DVLA is on Page 8 of the above leaflet:

What to do if you are selling your vehicle privately to someone that does not have a GB address
You should fill in sections 6 and 10 with the new keeper’s name and address. Both you and the new keeper (buyer) must sign and date the declaration in section 8. Give the whole V5C to the new keeper to aid registration abroad.
You should then send a signed letter to DVLA, Swansea, SA99 1AG giving the vehicle’s registration number, the make and model of the vehicle, the date of sale or transfer, and the name and address of the new keeper.
Once we know about the change of keeper, you should receive an acknowledgement letter to confirm that you are no longer responsible for the vehicle. If you do not receive the letter within 4 weeks, please phone 0300 790 6802. If you are deaf or hard of hearing and have access to a textphone, phone 0300 123 1279 (this number will not respond to ordinary phones).

In short: You get the whole V5C, seller writes a letter to DVLA.

Advice on buying (including the serial numbers of old dodgy V5Cs): Direct.gov.uk

JoeySully wrote: »

If you don't get the V5 then you will have to apply for it when you get home and that will take a few weeks. Receipt with a date on it and Ferry ticket for VRT

DO NOT BUY A VEHICLE WITHOUT A V5C!(first rule of buying a car in the UK) You cannot apply for a V5C using a non-GB address, you can only apply for a Certificate of Export. The delay will also mess up the 7/30 day time limits for registration.

Be aware also that a "registered keeper" can be, but isn't necessarily the legal owner.

corktina

macplaxton wrote: »

As above, GET THE WHOLE DOCUMENT. Tell the seller this now, so if they're unsure, the can confirm the procedures, rather than getting into a bind on the day.

INS160 Registration Certificate Guidance Notes - PDF Document (869 Kb) Information and Instructions on the new registration certificate, V5C

Current advice from the DVLA is on Page 8 of the above leaflet:



In short: You get the whole V5C, seller writes a letter to DVLA.

Advice on buying (including the serial numbers of old dodgy V5Cs): Direct.gov.uk

DO NOT BUY A VEHICLE WITHOUT A V5C!(first rule of buying a car in the UK) You cannot apply for a V5C using a non-GB address, you can only apply for a Certificate of Export. The delay will also mess up the 7/30 day time limits for registration.

Be aware also that a "registered keeper" can be, but isn't necessarily the legal owner.

spot on.AN HPI check to make sure the seller owns the car wouldnt go amiss and can be done over the phone I beleive

mb1725

Hope you checked the roof for filler? http://youtu.be/6-shNHaJigM

johnos1984

Cheers people,

I just wanted to check everything first.

galwaytt

johnos1984 wrote: »

Cheers people,

I just wanted to check everything first.

Do NOT come home without the WHOLE V5

Now that we've that out of the way........

To make sure you don't run into an impasse on teh subject when you get there - tell the seller NOW that you WILL be requiring the whole V5. If he gets wobbly, it gives him time to contact DVLA himself, to confirm.

Better still, if you're corresponding by email, look it up yourself on the DVLA website and send him the link.

Page 8, bang smack in the middle of page 8, here: http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/@motor/documents/digitalasset/dg_065264.pdf

From that page, the relevant paragraph:

What to do if you are selling your vehicle privately to someone that does not have a GB address
You should fill in sections 6 and 10 with the new keeper’s name and address. Both you and the new keeper (buyer) must sign and date the declaration in section 8. Give the whole V5C to the new keeper to aid registration abroad.
You (the UK owner) should then send a signed letter to DVLA, Swansea, SA99 1AG giving
the vehicle’s registration number, the make and model of the vehicle, the
date of sale or transfer, and the name and address of the new keeper.
Once we know about the change of keeper, you should receive an acknowledgement letter to confirm that you are no longer responsible for
the vehicle. If you do not receive the letter within 4 weeks, please phone
0300 790 6802. If you are deaf or hard of hearing and have access
to a textphone, phone 0300 123 1279 (this number will not respond to
ordinary phones).

galwaytt

Btw - have you booked the Ferry yet ?

They are VERY busy at the mo, and we've had trouble getting crew over and back on the Ferry in the last few weeks.

johnos1984

Plane booked, hotel booked, night out in Liverpool sorted, car freshly MOT'd, seller driving it to ferry as he has trade plates, ferry booked and V5C shall be provided in full as he is a trade seller and already knew I'd want it all.

Everything sorted me thinks.

And he is driving 189 miles to deliver it to me and will sort any issues which arise before delivery.

unkel

Bon voyage

macplaxton

galwaytt, did you not see post number 5 of this thread? ;)

johnos1984

Does anyone know of any shows or meets taking place on Monday next along the east coast? I'm in Wicklow and would like to go somewhere with the car when I'm home

mgbgt1978

As regards the "purchase invoice" or receipt you can print something off the internet (and both sign it) or in this case as he is a trade seller just get him to give you a receipt.

Remember the days when you could buy a Marina for £50, and the seller got the better end of the deal.:)

johnos1984

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

Remember the days when you could buy a Marina for £50, and the seller got the better end of the deal.:)

I wish it was £50....

RobAMerc

just to note lads.

I didn't get the V5 with a car I bought. I filled it out with my whole address and the VRO sent me the V5 a few days later with a note apologising for them not being able to register the car in my name in the UK !

But I wouldn't and didn't do that again!

Bigus

johnos1984 wrote: »

Plane booked, hotel booked, night out in Liverpool sorted, car freshly MOT'd, seller driving it to ferry as he has trade plates, ferry booked and V5C shall be provided in full as he is a trade seller and already knew I'd want it all.

Everything sorted me thinks.

And he is driving 189 miles to deliver it to me and will sort any issues which arise before delivery.

Urgent !!!!!

Watch out for

FALLING PIANOS

when driving Marinas in the uk or for that matter any previous Piano Roof damage, that has'nt been properly repaired.

johnos1984

It's in Ireland safe and sound.

Pictures to follow

johnos1984

The parking valet disappeared upon my arrival

To recap on the work done so far on this bastard;

Replacement Rad & Fresh Coolant
Replacement Clutch
Both Handbrake pivots free'd off
Both Rear shoes free'd off and adjusted.
Loads of welding which cost a fortune, 2 days worth.
New pads in N/S/F caliper (which was also free'd off)
Grease pumped into every nipple - all of which were open
Replacement spark plugs, air filter and oil filters, carb cleaned
New track rod end (o/s/f)
Both steering gaiters replaced. Everything was seized solid.
15w40 mineral oil
points checked, cleaned adjusted. It had been done recently along with a new cap.
The fuel tank was replaced just before I got it along with a new, genuine N/S/F door skin.
A multitude of bulbs
Underside fully sprayed in shultz.
one new tyre, 2 new inner tubes and a load of balancing and a rim change
An overhauled alternator
Sound proofing in drivers footwell
Some fibreglass bodging
A half respray in cellouse. It looks good, but cost alot.
Replacement wiper blades ( I used inserts to save the chrome arms)
New fuel lines.

And loads of other grief.............including new brake cylinders and brake pipes on the morning of its collection after they leaked during the night.

Anyway as with all my classics its for sale if anyone is interested.

I'll make a better for sale ad when I get my head straight.

carchaeologist

Is that work you did or work that was done on the car when you bought it? Looks like its had the doors painted at some stage, though seems a straight honest car.
You are selling straight away, not using it for a bit for the fun of it!?
I like the Supercover sticker!

johnos1984

carchaeologist wrote: »

Is that work you did or work that was done on the car when you bought it?

The guy owns another forum and there is a very extensive thread on the Marina owners club forum about all the work done so its all documented

carchaeologist wrote: »

Looks like its had the doors painted at some stage, though seems a straight honest car.

Honest is the best description. Its not perfect but its in perfect condition for one which could be used daily. A good clean up of some bubbling and a respray would see it all right.

carchaeologist wrote: »

You are selling straight away, not using it for a bit for the fun of it!?

I will be. Its actually the most solid classic I've had. I generally stick them up for sale soon after getting them as the chances of a quick sale are TINY

carchaeologist wrote: »

I like the Supercover sticker!

Its gave me comfort on the way home knowing that Leyland Supercover would come to the rescue if there were any issues.

Beauty with BRAINS behind it

carchaeologist

johnos1984 wrote: »

Beauty with BRAINS behind it

*cough*

johnos1984

carchaeologist wrote: »

*cough*

I can't find the original ad with the "brains" behind the car but this one will do