English Paper II

FatRat

Could someone do out a list of poems I could learn for different themes that could come up in english paper II, please?

Also, if anyone did Sive for their play or Boy in the striped pyjamas for a novel, could someone help me out with them and the different question that could come + important quotes (if possible)
I only need short descriptions so you don't have to write out an essay about them, unless you want to
Thanks.

ohdechertig

Well, I'm not sure what themes some of these come under, but the poems we did are:
Upon Westminster Bridge - William Wordsworth.
Base Details - Siegfried Sassoon.(This poem covers a wide variety of past questions)
In memory of my Mother - Patrick Kavanagh. (Death)
When all the others - Seamus Heaney. (A poem that has a similar theme to death)
The lake Isle of Innisfree - W.B Yeats. (Nature)
The thinness of ice - Liz Loxley (Relationships)
Mid-term Break - Seamus Heaney (If you're asked to write about a poet, you'll need to mention two poems by that poet.)
My Parents kept me from children who were rough - Stephen Spender. (Bullying? It also features a lot of excellent language, similes, alliteration etc.)

I'm not sure if that'll help you, but hopefully it will. Also, I'm not studying either that play or drama. Sorry!

rainaa

i'm doing the following poems:

Blackberry Picking by Seamus Heaney (nature, childhood, memories)
Midterm Break by Seamus Heaney (childhood, memories, death)
Digging by Seamus Heaney (childhood, memories, nature)
The Road Not Taken by Robert Frost (nature, memories, life decision, metaphorical / allegory)
Dulce et Decorum Est by Wilfred Owen (war, death)
Shall I Compare Thee by William Shakespeare (love, nature)
But You Didn't by Merill Glass (war, love, death)


those are the ones i'm doing, i think they're all very easy poems to discuss.

Indiego

Im doing:
When you are old - W.B Yeats (Love)
The Cloths of Heaven - W.B Yeats (Love)
Base Details - Sigfried Sassoon (War)
Dulce et Decorum est - Wilfred Owen (War, Death)
Blackberry Picking - Seamus Heaney (Childhood, Memories)
The Thinness of Ice - Liz Loxley (Relationships)
And I sort of know The Road not Taken - Robert Frost, but i would rather not having to answer a question on it.

Desire.

At this stage, I think I will just concentrate on three poems. I'm going to do Base Details as my main poem, and then Mid-Term Break with either Digging or Follower.

I am dreading English Paper II. I am hopeless at Romeo and Juliet.

Indiego

Desire. wrote: »

I am hopeless at Romeo and Juliet.

I was too, until earlier on, I watched both versions of the film, wrote out all the notes that were in my text book, did a exam question for 2009, 2008 and 2007, summarised the play and did scene analysis', It Realllyyyy helped :O

Cakes.

I'm on the second scene of Romeo an Juliet in my writing up of notes.

My worst part is probably the Novel. We did Of Mice and Men and it was really boring so I didn't pay much attention.

Poetry I think is Ok but I still need to revise two or three poems.

Desire.

Cakesofrice wrote: »

I'm on the second scene of Romeo an Juliet in my writing up of notes.

Are you going through every single scene and making notes? Do you not think that will take too long at this stage?

I'm just learning Act 3, Scence 1, something on Love and Hate, and something on Romeo.

I don't really care, I don't really plan on answering the studied drama question in the Junior Cert. I don't know how people can finish Paper II.

Slow Show

Desire. wrote: »

Are you going through every single scene and making notes? Do you not think that will take too long at this stage?

I'm just learning Act 3, Scence 1, something on Love and Hate, and something on Romeo.

I don't really care, I don't really plan on answering the studied drama question in the Junior Cert. I don't know how people can finish Paper II.

Oh God don't ignore a question. 30 marks is equal to 8%, that's loads! Paper 2 isn't that hard to get done in time, it feels scary before it but I had a good bit of time spare during the mocks, I nearly would have been able to leave early if it was the real thing. Studied questions really don't take that much time really, as long as you don't write at a snail's pace. Quality over quantity, you only need two pages to get full marks - at least that's what I found in the mocks. And guys don't stress about drama, learn a relationship, a character, theme(s), and learn quotes to back it up.

And even if you are struggling to finish paper 2 on time - attempt everything. I read something once - it's easier to get the first 80% of a question than the last 20% so if you are pressed for timing, just try to get as many marks as you can out of everything. Indeed.

Heh, I should really stop telling people how to do their Junior Cert when I haven't done mine yet.

Indiego

My teacher gave us a really good tip for paper too, and i dont know if its common knowledge and im gonna look stupid, but, they mark whatever question you do last easiest, because most peoples last question is more stressed for time.
So if your weakest question is say studied drama, do that last, if your weakest is unseen poetry, do that last, etc.
My tactic for P2 is to do all the unseen stuff first, to get me thinking along the right lines, and then do the studied poetry, followed by the studied fiction, followed by the studied drama (or visa versa for the fiction/drama, depending on the question)

Desire.

Is that true? I've never heard that before.

I'm going to start with the Unseen Fiction, then the Unseen Poetry, then the Studied Fiction and/or Poetry next. Then I'll finish with my Unseen Drama and hopefully Studied Drama then.

Indiego

Desire. wrote: »

Is that true? I've never heard that before.

well my english teacher corrects papers for the S.E.C every year, and she says thats what a majority of correctors, if not all of them, do, because it was recognised that the last question answered was always of a lower standard than other questions, so now they tend to go a bit easier on the marking

Cakes.

Desire. wrote: »

Are you going through every single scene and making notes? Do you not think that will take too long at this stage?

I'm just learning Act 3, Scence 1, something on Love and Hate, and something on Romeo.

I don't really care, I don't really plan on answering the studied drama question in the Junior Cert. I don't know how people can finish Paper II.

Some scenes are really short so It should only take a few hours and I'm only going to do the important scenes in detail.

ScummyMan

Slow Show wrote: »

Quality over quantity, you only need two pages to get full marks - at least that's what I found in the mocks.

:eek: You need two full A4 pages? Oh well, i hate English its my worst subject, ive just stopped studying for it :pac:

Lollipop95

English is my best subject but I only got like 60 something % in the mocks I know where I went wrong thankfully
My teacher thinks I'm going to get an A...talk about pressure!
I'll be kinda upset if I don't get an A considering it's my favourite subject...but shur what can ya do!

FatRat

I got 73% in the pres, but I still know that I will get a B in the real thing. It's inevitable.
I got 87% in paper II in the pres, but still, I'm iffy about it. I don't think I'd pull that off again since it was all guesswork in the pres, and for the most of it, it was right. I used one quote/one line for the studied poetry :L

Lollipop95

Here's all the ones I'm learning

Mid-Term Break - Seamus Heaney (Death)

Early Purges - Seamus Heaney (I'm not sure of the theme? I guess it's death too??)

Base Details - Siegfried Sassoon (War)

The Lake Isle Of Innis Free - W.B Yeats (Nature)

Easy Rider - Rita Ann Higgins

The Conquerors - forget the poet

The Road Not Taken - Robert Frost

If the question asks me to discuss two poems I'll do "Early Purges" and "Mid-Term Break" I can really analyse those two really well and hopefully get an A with that!

cbr250

Would you learn off the whole poem?
im doen the jc aswell and am only startin to study now havent a clue aout anyting?

curlyclodagh

I'd absolutely love to get an A in English, but paper II is ridiculously difficult to finish on time Paper I is do-able, but I only got up as far as fiction in paper II