Fat kids in school

cesc77

Twenty years ago I had at most 2 fat kids in my class.

If you looked at those fat kids,what are the chances that they had fat parents,and not athletic ones?

How many kids have fat friends in class now?

I (reluctantly)appreciate that the "fat" gene may exist but also appreciate that the lazy,fat git exists.

Everything that happens in the USA,comes here 10 years later.

Bottom line.Fast food+poor parenting+computergames-exercise= ADHD(overdiagnosed as its the lazy option)for a kid who doesnt exercise enough or who is a bit clever)..... and fat wee,lazy bastards

mink_man

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had to get my stick to type, fingers too fat.

chin_grin

Aaaah waaaawsh mah-self with a rayaaag on a steeee-uk. Heee hyuk.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

Its the pedo's fault.

They hang around schools and throw burgers and sweets into the yard...over time the kids gain weight, thus not able to run far and are easily caught.

May not be true

double GG

Lay off fat people OP, They already have enough on their plates.

Fat chance of having a skinny kid in the class these days.

Wolfe Tone

Stick the fat kids in the rugby team, thats what we did. (yes I was one but the exercise changed that lol)

wolf moon

who gives a fcuk whether they're fat or not.
your job is to teach them as good as you can, isn't it?
end of story.

mikemac

Maybe you should volunteer for some after school activity when you finish. It's not like you're working after 6pm or even 5pm

Take them training for GAA maybe
Get a school team going, enter blitzs and competitions

abouttobebanned

Here's the reason OP.

When we were in school (ok im 30)..we had sanwiches in tinfoil...a capri sun....and a 54321 bar if we were lucky. If we were really lucky we could get a pound special from the chipper on a friday.

Nowadays kids are getting their lunches from dominos, chinese restaurants, filled rolls filled with all kinds of meaty ****...all washed down with a bottle of coke.


When we came home from school we threw our bag in the hall and ran out for a game of world cup. we played for three hours and then came home with grass stains on our grey trousers.

The kids now come home after having their chicken fried rice for lunch...have another slap up meal...and then spend the night on facebook and on the xbox.

Wolfe Tone

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Here's the reason OP.

When we were in school (ok im 30)..we had sanwiches in tinfoil...a capri sun....and a 54321 bar if we were lucky. If we were really lucky we could get a pound special from the chipper on a friday.

Nowadays kids are getting their lunches from dominos, chinese restaurants, filled rolls filled with all kinds of meaty ****...all washed down with a bottle of coke.


When we came home from school we threw our back in the hall and ran out for a game of world cup. we played for three hours and then came home with grass stains on our grey trousers.

The kids now come home after having their chicken fried rice for lunch...have another slap up meal...and then spent the night on facebook and on the xbox.

Or boards, bet there are lots of fatties on here

bonerm

cesc77 wrote: »

Everything that happens in the USA,comes here 10 years later.

Good thing we don't have any skyscrapers in Ireland as it's nearly September.

Wolfe Tone

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Or boards, bet there are lots of fatties on here

boards.ie - now ye're eatin'

ThatFancyChap

cesc77 wrote: »

Twenty years ago I had at most 2 fat kids in my class.

If you looked at those fat kids,what are the chances that they had fat parents,and not athletic ones?

How many kids have fat friends in class now?

I (reluctantly)appreciate that the "fat" gene may exist but also appreciate that the lazy,fat git exists.

Everything that happens in the USA,comes here 10 years later.

Bottom line.Fast food+poor parenting+computergames-exercise= ADHD(overdiagnosed as its the lazy option)for a kid who doesnt exercise enough or who is a bit clever)..... and fat wee,lazy bastards

I know I shouldn't respond to trolls, but here goes...
The 'fat' gene you're talking so loosely about is a glandular disorder, an over production of growth hormones and underproduction of thyroxin which essentially gives a low metabolism, meaning less digestion.
Secondly, ADHD has never been blamed for kids being fat. ADHD is, as it says, a hyper active disorder that limits attention span. Nothing to do with weight gain.
Yes, there is more of a need for healthier eating habits, but again you have the problem of eating disorders. The way you act so insensitively towards the problem means that if you tried to talk with someone who suffered from obesity about it, you'd make them feel worse; Leading to a worsening eating disorder, etc.
Basically... Keep your stupid opinions to yourself, please.

cesc77

wolf moon wrote: »

who gives a fcuk whether they're fat or not.
your job is to teach them as good as you can, isn't it?
end of story.

Maybe when you pay taxes you will understand the frustration.

Unemployed Fat people mating(boke) creating more fat wee forkers.

How the FECK CAN THEY AFFORD TO BE FAT IN THIS DAY AND AGE?I cannot afford to be fat.You need to be putting in more calories than you are expending.


Here,shove your patronisation along with your apathy on this issue.

Someday youll dispair at what Ireland has become....with the fatness:(

kfallon

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Here's the reason OP.

When we were in school (ok im 30)..we had sanwiches in tinfoil...a capri sun....and a 54321 bar if we were lucky.

Ok someone has to post it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezLzflX6r5Q

ThatFancyChap

ThatFancyChap wrote: »

I know I shouldn't respond to trolls, but here goes...
The 'fat' gene you're talking so loosely about is a glandular disorder, an over production of growth hormones and underproduction of thyroxin which essentially gives a low metabolism, meaning less digestion.
Secondly, ADHD has never been blamed for kids being fat. ADHD is, as it says, a hyper active disorder that limits attention span. Nothing to do with weight gain.
Yes, there is more of a need for healthier eating habits, but again you have the problem of eating disorders. The way you act so insensitively towards the problem means that if you tried to talk with someone who suffered from obesity about it, you'd make them feel worse; Leading to a worsening eating disorder, etc.
Basically... Keep your stupid opinions to yourself, please.

Serious question.

What were the rates of this glandular disorder say 30 years ago compared to today?

ThatFancyChap

rarnes1 wrote: »

Serious question.

What were the rates of this glandular disorder say 30 years ago compared to today?

I dunno. I'm not a doctor or anything. I'd say it'd be about the same. Yes, children today are suffering from obesity, for the most part, because of parents. But this rant that this guy's going on about? It's pretty disgraceful and ill-minded.

And you think that all people on the dole are lazy fat people, and not formerly hard working people who were made redundant? Jesus Christ, I hope you're trolling man.

bonerm

kfallon wrote: »

Ok someone has to post it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezLzflX6r5Q

I could go for one of those right now.

(we had different lyrics on the primary schoolyard for the 54321 song ... ones that cannot be published on this forum without a banning :eek:).

Deus Ex Machina

ThatFancyChap wrote: »

The 'fat' gene you're talking so loosely about is a glandular disorder, an over production of growth hormones and underproduction of thyroxin which essentially gives a low metabolism, meaning less digestion.

I would characterise that statement as a crispy load of bollocks.

Eathrin

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Here's the reason OP.

When we were in school (ok im 30)..we had sanwiches in tinfoil...a capri sun....and a 54321 bar if we were lucky. If we were really lucky we could get a pound special from the chipper on a friday.

Nowadays kids are getting their lunches from dominos, chinese restaurants, filled rolls filled with all kinds of meaty ****...all washed down with a bottle of coke.


When we came home from school we threw our bag in the hall and ran out for a game of world cup. we played for three hours and then came home with grass stains on our grey trousers.

The kids now come home after having their chicken fried rice for lunch...have another slap up meal...and then spend the night on facebook and on the xbox.

That's unfair stereotyping I think. I'm 17 and I eat rather healthily, "junk" in moderation. I still play football with my friends and when I quit my football team I started going to the gym.

That's not to say theres not truth there though. A lot of 1st/2nd years in my school act like that and I think that it's getting progressively worse.

Wolfe Tone

ThatFancyChap wrote: »

I dunno. I'm not a doctor or anything. I'd say it'd be about the same. Yes, children today are suffering from obesity, for the most part, because of parents. But this rant that this guy's going on about? It's pretty disgraceful and ill-minded.

And you think that all people on the dole are lazy fat people, and not formerly hard working people who were made redundant? Jesus Christ, I hope you're trolling man.

Fat kids should be attached to chariots.


The skinny kids could race em around the yard, they will need whips (or burgers!) to keep em motivated though.

Jesus Wept

cesc77 wrote: »

If you looked at those fat kids,what are the chances that they had fat parents,and not athletic ones?

The opposite of fat is athletic.

ThatFancyChap

Deus Ex Machina wrote: »

I would characterise that statement as a crispy load of bollocks.

Suit yourself, but it's also the reason you have people who eat lots of junk, and come out with no weight gain. It's an over-production of the thyroxin hormone, basically. (To an extent)

Dudess

OP, I don't hang around classrooms, but from what I see generally, fatness among kids is still pretty uncommon.

ThatFancyChap wrote: »

The 'fat' gene you're talking so loosely about is a glandular disorder, an over production of growth hormones and underproduction of thyroxin which essentially gives a low metabolism, meaning less digestion.

How common is that though? Most of the time it's simply surplus calories being consumed, deficit being burned.

Keep your stupid opinions to yourself, please.

LOL. So you feel an opinion should be censured because you don't agree with it.

cesc77 wrote: »

Maybe when you pay taxes you will understand the frustration.

Unemployed Fat people mating(boke) creating more fat wee forkers.

I pay taxes - fat people don't affect me. That's just a commonly used code for "I want to bitch about fat people and I need some piss-poor reason - taxes, that'll do."
Haven't heard of fatness causing unemployment either.

How the FECK CAN THEY AFFORD TO BE FAT IN THIS DAY AND AGE?

High-cal food can be cheap. In the Buenos Aires slums there is a serious obesity crisis. In poor, rural parts of the deep south of America, ditto.

It's a serious public health issue no doubt, but being arseholey to fat people won't help.

ThatFancyChap

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Fat kids should be attached to chariots.


The skinny kids could race em around the yard, they will need whips (or burgers!) to keep em motivated though.

I'd patent that idea if I were you; Get ahead in this brilliant idea for when oil's too expensive for car use.

Wibbs

rarnes1 wrote: »

Serious question.

What were the rates of this glandular disorder say 30 years ago compared to today?

Oh I agree 100%, but the environment has changed and environment can cause changes in gene expression. A set of twins, separated at birth, same DNA, essentially clones. One sent to live with San bushmen in the Kalahari, the other sent to live with Joe and Jane taxpayer in Littletown, Square State, USA. One fed off the land, the other fed off Marios Chew & Chuck all you can eat for five dollars. The latter is way more likely to be a fatty. Basically if one is unaware of such cause and effect and is running on instinct, then it's very easy to get trapped by it.

ThatFancyChap

ThatFancyChap wrote: »

I dunno. I'm not a doctor or anything. I'd say it'd be about the same. Yes, children today are suffering from obesity, for the most part, because of parents. But this rant that this guy's going on about? It's pretty disgraceful and ill-minded.

And you think that all people on the dole are lazy fat people, and not formerly hard working people who were made redundant? Jesus Christ, I hope you're trolling man.

You'd say it was about the same?

Kids/people are obese because they are eating more calories than they burn off.

i.e. Too much food and too little exercise. It's not rocket science.

I've no idea what your last paragraph is shíting on about tbh.

ThatFancyChap

Dudess wrote: »

How common is that though? Most of the time it's simply surplus calories being consumed, deficit being burned.

Not common, I know. But at the same time, there's enough people who have it that you shouldn't group all obese people as 'lazy fatasses'.

Dudess wrote: »

LOL. So you feel an opinion should be censured because you don't agree with it.

No, I believe that an opinion should be kept to ones self if it's based on nothing but personal rage and fallacies.

ThatFancyChap

rarnes1 wrote: »

You'd say it was about the same?

Kids/people are obese because they are eating more calories than they burn off.

i.e. Too much food and too little exercise. It's not rocket science.

I've no idea what your last paragraph is shíting on about tbh.

Last paragraph was aimed at the OP, sorry.
But yeah, I agree. 99% of obese kids are obese from their environments, because of the upbringing of parents, etc. But there are that 1% of people who have a disorder that they can't control who I'm sure would not like to be seen as lazy fatasses who do nothing.

cesc77

ThatFancyChap wrote: »

I know I shouldn't respond to trolls, but here goes...
The 'fat' gene you're talking so loosely about is a glandular disorder, an over production of growth hormones and underproduction of thyroxin which essentially gives a low metabolism, meaning less digestion.
Secondly, ADHD has never been blamed for kids being fat. ADHD is, as it says, a hyper active disorder that limits attention span. Nothing to do with weight gain.
Yes, there is more of a need for healthier eating habits, but again you have the problem of eating disorders. The way you act so insensitively towards the problem means that if you tried to talk with someone who suffered from obesity about it, you'd make them feel worse; Leading to a worsening eating disorder, etc.
Basically... Keep your stupid opinions to yourself, please.

Yep,I was disparaging of the fat gene as it is used to often.

I am a skinny git with a supposedly high metabolism.Would you like to compare my issues with a fat person who consumes more than their daily ?On average do fat people eat 5 portions a day and zero fat?Do fat people just happen to be the way they are due to gene issues?

If they do then I consider myself corrected.

Fat people,in general,are fat because they eat fatty food and dont exercise.And yes,maybe they need a kick up the hoop and for the rest of the country to accept that it is not bloody ok to be fat.HOW MANY FAT PEOPLE WERE THERE DURING THE WAR/FAMINE/CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
I am not being facetious here.It is mainly a lifestyle choice with a few wee fatties who will always be so due to their gene anomaly

I may have made a mistake in naming ADHD in that equation.

Hyper kids are not necessarily nutty.I was a cheeky wee rascal as a kid but parents are doping kids with this American "disease"for convenience.

Dopes the kid and makes them easy to tolerate.

In response to your "keep your stupid responses to yourself"

No,I Fcucking wont you patronising fecker.

Wolfe Tone

I used to be a little fatty in school, was because I stuffed my face with sweets and didn't exercise. Started cycling to school,and playing a sport and eating less, its not hard for kids to lose weight.

This sh!te about kids growing out of it is just that, sh!te, if I hadn't changed my ways(luckily I had the foresight to do it myself, mother was convinced I would grow out of it) I would still be 6'1" or so but I would be a right fat bastard rather than a pretty healthy 75 Kg or so.

Fat kids and their parents need to cop the fcuk on.

jive

In fairness it's not the kids fault. Children don't know any better and for the most part just eat what they are given with the occasional trip to the shop to get a can of coke or whatever which isn't going to make you obese. The blame must lay entirely on the parents. The parents feed their children. In general fat parents will have fat children because they live on the same ****ty diet, not due to some gene that fat people like to console themselves with.

I wonder why that gene hasn't spread anywhere outside of the western world even with international travel. Probably due to the fact that to become fat you have to eat in a caloric surplus; your genes won't make you fat, your diet will. With the exception of very rare syndromes the diet / excercise regime (or lack of) is solely to blame. If anyone thinks otherwise they are delusional.

abouttobebanned

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Here's the reason OP.

When we were in school (ok im 30)..we had sanwiches in tinfoil...a capri sun....and a 54321 bar if we were lucky. If we were really lucky we could get a pound special from the chipper on a friday.

Nowadays kids are getting their lunches from dominos, chinese restaurants, filled rolls filled with all kinds of meaty ****...all washed down with a bottle of coke.


When we came home from school we threw our bag in the hall and ran out for a game of world cup. we played for three hours and then came home with grass stains on our grey trousers.

The kids now come home after having their chicken fried rice for lunch...have another slap up meal...and then spend the night on facebook and on the xbox.

Exactly.

I go home for lunch every day and always see secondary school kids having lunch in Four Star Pizza, Kebab Klub and Hillbilly's (if you know Fairview then you'd know these spots). That can't be healthy, I certainly didn't do it as a kid.

ThatFancyChap

cesc77 wrote: »

Yep,I was disparaging of the fat gene as it is used to often.

I am a skinny git with a supposedly high metabolism.Would you like to compare my issues with a fat person who consumes more than their daily ?On average do fat people eat 5 portions a day and zero fat?Do fat people just happen to be the way they are due to gene issues?

If they do then I consider myself corrected.

Fat people,in general,are fat because they eat fatty food and dont exercise.And yes,maybe they need a kick up the hoop and for the rest of the country to accept that it is not bloody ok to be fat.HOW MANY FAT PEOPLE WERE THERE DURING THE WAR/FAMINE/CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
I am not being facetious here.It is mainly a lifestyle choice with a few wee fatties who will always be so due to their gene anomaly

I may have made a mistake in naming ADHD in that equation.

Hyper kids are not necessarily nutty.I was a cheeky wee rascal as a kid but parents are doping kids with this American "disease"for convenience.

Dopes the kid and makes them easy to tolerate.

In response to your "keep your stupid responses to yourself"

No,I Fcucking wont you patronising fecker.

I'm skinny as a reed too, eating all manner of things; Why would I count myself as unlucky as a person who's fat without being able to control it? Being fat, as you've so clearly shown, is something looked down upon so greatly, almost as if it's a disease.
And as I've said, not all fat people are fat cuz of genetic traits or what have you. As you've said, it is down to lifestyle. But I hardly see ranting on a message board in the way you are as being beneficial in any way at all. If you want, try organising something in your community to keep kids active if you're so concerned. Just don't show the same militant hatred on them you've shown here.
And questioning how many fat people there were during war/famine is a very moot point. It's like saying how many starving people were there in Europe in the 70's, when there was an over-production of food, with a massive surplus?
And ADHD is not a 'fake American' disease. I know someone who has it. It's a genuine mental illness. Just because you've never seen the effects of it yourself bar from misdiagnoses doesn't mean it's a fake disease.

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Everyone* seems getting fatter in general. A lot of the (very) slim folk I went to school with are growing overweight pretty quickly as we get older. Bald too. And I'm only 23.



*Not literally "everyone," Dudess.

cesc77

wolf moon wrote: »

who gives a fcuk whether they're fat or not.
your job is to teach them as good as you can, isn't it?
end of story.

Just caught on there that you think Im a teacher from your misinterpretation of the opening thread.


#1.I do,hence thread(as should you as a human being and *shudder* parent)

#2.No

#3."Teach them as good as you can"??? Lad,if youre going to try and belittle me,I would advise lurking a wee bit longer on AH.Its a rough one,granted,but I beg you please stay with us for entertainment value.

Have a good evening

cesc77

feelingstressed wrote: »

Maybe you should volunteer for some after school activity when you finish. It's not like you're working after 6pm or even 5pm

Take them training for GAA maybe
Get a school team going, enter blitzs and competitions

Me,squire?

Not sure if you are addressing me or your points.....

problemchimp

"I wash myself with a rag on a stick"

Doyler92

Why do fat chance and slim chance have the same meaning?

cesc77

Dudess wrote: »

OP, I don't hang around classrooms, but from what I see generally, fatness among kids is still pretty uncommon.

How common is that though? Most of the time it's simply surplus calories being consumed, deficit being burned.

LOL. So you feel an opinion should be censured because you don't agree with it.

I pay taxes - fat people don't affect me. That's just a commonly used code for "I want to bitch about fat people and I need some piss-poor reason - taxes, that'll do."
Haven't heard of fatness causing unemployment either.

High-cal food can be cheap. In the Buenos Aires slums there is a serious obesity crisis. In poor, rural parts of the deep south of America, ditto.

It's a serious public health issue no doubt, but being arseholey to fat people won't help.

Respectfully disagree.I am not talking about South America.

You havent heard of fatness causing unemployment?

FFS.Where do I start?I thought the noob was a troll till I met you,an experienced poster.Come on?......

High cal fast food is expensive over here.I couldnt imagine buying happymeals for four kids....20 quid?....but a healthy homecooked dinner would be a quarter of that


Your final point is guff too.I think being arseholey and basically cutting their burger money and giving them food tokens is the kindly thing to do.

I would be glad of any sort of handout if I was unemployed(which I have never been )

southsiderosie

cesc77 wrote: »

High cal fast food is expensive over here.I couldnt imagine buying happymeals for four kids....20 quid?....but a healthy homecooked dinner would be a quarter of that

Your final point is guff too.I think being arseholey and basically cutting their burger money and giving them food tokens is the kindly thing to do.

I would be glad of any sort of handout if I was unemployed(which I have never been )

I found healthy food to be quite expensive in Ireland. When I lived in Spain, cheap produce and high-quality meat were very cheap and readily available; I was surprised at how much more expensive Ireland was, and I had to go out of my way to buy cheap produce. Bread, sweets, soda, crisps and frozen processed meals were readily available and cheap though.

cesc77

ThatFancyChap wrote: »

I'm skinny as a reed too, eating all manner of things; Why would I count myself as unlucky as a person who's fat without being able to control it? Being fat, as you've so clearly shown, is something looked down upon so greatly, almost as if it's a disease.
And as I've said, not all fat people are fat cuz of genetic traits or what have you. As you've said, it is down to lifestyle. But I hardly see ranting on a message board in the way you are as being beneficial in any way at all. If you want, try organising something in your community to keep kids active if you're so concerned. Just don't show the same militant hatred on them you've shown here.
And questioning how many fat people there were during war/famine is a very moot point. It's like saying how many starving people were there in Europe in the 70's, when there was an over-production of food, with a massive surplus?
And ADHD is not a 'fake American' disease. I know someone who has it. It's a genuine mental illness. Just because you've never seen the effects of it yourself bar from misdiagnoses doesn't mean it's a fake disease.

Please number your issues.They meander a bit.

No,I dont look down on fatties.Its not a disease its bloody greed or parental laziness.


"not all fat people are fat cuz" you are proving my point.Simple shortcuts in life will lead to fat people.

I do not feel that I am ranting.If you want me to I will.

ORGANISE SOMETHING IN MY NEIGHBOURHOOD? Im going to be polite here and say "no"

blood pressure rising

You asked me to compare how many starving people in the 70s?...Im losing it here

Adhd........may I quote....."I know someone who has it"

With all non respect you muppet,I know someone who won the Bulgarian lottery with the same numbers that won it the week before.

Lets compare.

Im being easy on you as I know you have a fatism.Not a fatwa...

although,keep it up....

Kojak

mink_man wrote: »

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had to get my stick to type, fingers too fat.

Mash the keypad now to obtain your special dialling wand.

Dudess

cesc77 wrote: »

Respectfully disagree.I am not talking about South America.

But sh1te food is cheap. It isn't all fast-food chain stuff...

You havent heard of fatness causing unemployment?

Nope.

Your final point is guff too.

Nnnnno it isn't - bullying won't help anyone is my point, which isn't guff. People need to get out of the habit, on this forum, of dismissing a point of view either because they disagree with it or because they can't argue with it.

I think being arseholey and basically cutting their burger money and giving them food tokens is the kindly thing to do.

Where did I say that's what I meant by being arseholey?