are land registry folios deeds?

amacca

quick question (mods feel free to move - this seemed like the appropriate forum)

solicitor just told me that my folios are my deeds

could this be correct?

I thought deeds and folios were different things?

The folio has land registry written on top with "register of ownership of freehold land" below + details obviously .

is this a new thing?

juke

From the point of view of showing ownership of land, yes - a Folio & Filed Plan (the map) are your title deeds.

From the point of view of a sale - not necessarily. There may be other important documents which would be considered part of your title deeds. These would include, for example, any leases or rights of way/wayleave which affect/benefit the land. They would also include any planning documentation.

Any reason why you aren't taking the word of your solicitor?

amacca

I just remember deeds not being as brief as these documents

was told their should be a schedule of documents at the front (sort of like a table of contents - but a bit hazy on that) - there was not

remember them being older (paper being more yellowish) - know you can get the folios from the land registry office and always thought these were separate documents to deeds so was surprised when was told the folios were the deeds as I was fairly sure they were not

not suspicious or at loggerheads with solicitor but I'm of the opinion that any human, professional or not is susceptible to mistakes and would question anything anyone tells me nowadays (in a mostly non-confrontational way) certainly wouldnt just accept something anyone says without getting second opinion etc

juke

The reason why I asked about not taking the word of your solicitor was just pure curiosity. As a solicitor, I hate the idea that a client of mine would have a question they couldn't ask me, that's all.

As for deeds "being older (paper being more yellowish)" - there's 2 aspects to this

(boring bit to follow )

- it's regular for old, now fairly irrelevant old documents (often just old copy folios) to be kept in a bundle as "title deeds". Also there used to be a Land Certificate - which was in effect the ORIGINAL folio - which if lost would cause problems, but they are not necessary anymore (for the 2-3 years or so).

- There's 2 registration systems. Land registered in the Land Registry have folios. The title deeds for land registered in the Registry of Deeds (older system) are all of the original deeds which transferred land from person to person (often a big bundle of deeds printed on - yes, yellow paper). Once these deeds are registered in the Land Registry, you get one single folio.

bath handle

Technically a deed is a document under seal which has been delivered. A folio is therefore not a deed.
Colloquially. The phrase "my deeds" refers to the documents evidencing title to property. On that basis a folio is a deed.
Technically, you are correct. You solicitor obviously understood you to be referring to your deeds in the Colloquial sense and advised you accordingly.