Question about a news title.

Biggins

The Journal.ie (a very good site I think for that it tried to be) used the following title in a news report:

"Data shows Air France flight 447 fell 38,000 feet before crashing"

My question is, does a plane "crash" just at the said moment of impact or should we say it is crashing - as its actually falling?

Just a question over proper used of the word!
(I might have said the plane crashed 38,000 feet)

Story here anyway: http://www.thejournal.ie/data-shows-air-france-flight-447-fell-38000-feet-before-crashing-into-the-atlantic-144548-May2011/

ejmaztec

Biggins wrote: »

My question is, does a plane "crash" just at the said moment of impact?

Yes.:P

Biggins

ejmaztec wrote: »

Yes.:P

Ok.

End of thread. :pac:

LittleBook

Biggins wrote: »

My question is, does a plane "crash" just at the said moment of impact or should we say it is crashing - as its actually falling?

Sure! You can drive at 80mph towards a wall but you don't actually crash until you hit it!

Cat Melodeon

I guess crashing only happens on impact. It could have fallen 38,000 ft before making an emergency landing, in which case the fall wouldn't have involved a crash.

cosmicfart

Biggins wrote: »

The Journal.ie (a very good site I think for that it tried to be) used the following title in a news report:

"Data shows Air France flight 447 fell 38,000 feet before crashing"

My question is, does a plane "crash" just at the said moment of impact or should we say it is crashing - as its actually falling?

Just a question over proper used of the word!
(I might have said the plane crashed 38,000 feet)

Story here anyway: http://www.thejournal.ie/data-shows-air-france-flight-447-fell-38000-feet-before-crashing-into-the-atlantic-144548-May2011/

In hindsight 'crashing' is ok as they crashed. If they got control of the plane the plane and it did not crash then 'losing altitude' would be more appropiate. now fook off

D1stant

Did this thread crash on the first post?

Biggins

D1stant wrote: »

Did this thread crash on the first post?

Self-impacted!

TheIrishGrover

Biggins wrote: »

The Journal.ie (a very good site I think for that it tried to be) used the following title in a news report:

"Data shows Air France flight 447 fell 38,000 feet before crashing"

My question is, does a plane "crash" just at the said moment of impact or should we say it is crashing - as its actually falling?

Just a question over proper used of the word!
(I might have said the plane crashed 38,000 feet)

Story here anyway: http://www.thejournal.ie/data-shows-air-france-flight-447-fell-38000-feet-before-crashing-into-the-atlantic-144548-May2011/

Reminds me of that joke in La Haine: Heard about the guy who fell off a skyscraper? On his way down past each floor, he kept saying to reassure himself: So far so good... so far so good... so far so good......

TheZohanS

Which reminds me of the time I pulled a black box from a wreckage...

Biggins

TheZohan wrote: »

Which reminds me of the time I pulled a black box from a wreckage...

Must... not... see... sexual innuendo... everywhere...

ArtyM

Id say the passengers discussed this very conundrum as they hurtled toward the ocean.

Overheal

If the plane is crashing before its crashed youre removing the probability that it may correct itself and recover from the emergency to safety. In which case it will not have crashed and you will have egg on your face along with everyone else in first class that was just served breakfast.

phill106

TheZohan wrote: »

Which reminds me of the time I pulled a black box from a wreckage...

I didn't know you were black!

TheZohanS

phill106 wrote: »

I didn't know you were black!

That's what she said...

Daemos

Crashing = about to crash into something, though the crash itself can be averted

ejmaztec

Cat Melodeon wrote: »

I guess crashing only happens on impact. It could have fallen 38,000 ft before making an emergency landing, in which case the fall wouldn't have involved a crash.

It could have been a crash-landing.

ScumLord

Your crash into something, up until that point the technical term is fucked.

im invisible

Biggins wrote: »

Data shows Air France flight 447 fell 38,000 feet before crashing

im more worried that it says "data shows..." instead of "data show..."

stevenmu

There's an old saying in aviation:
"Nobody ever crashed into the sky"




(or it may be "Nobody ever collided with the sky")

Saila

its not the fall that kills you, its the sudden stop..

OutlawPete

TheZohan wrote: »

Which reminds me of the time I pulled a black box from a wreckage...

Oh yeah, that time you climbed back into the burning wreck that was once your XR3i and all to save your favourite cassette tape.

Don't blame you though, she was a cracker.

bonerm

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

Reminds me of that joke in La Haine: Heard about the guy who fell off a skyscraper? On his way down past each floor, he kept saying to reassure himself: So far so good... so far so good... so far so good......

Alternatively ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEacGiMO3K0

ejmaztec

Saila wrote: »

its not the fall that kills you, its the sudden stop..

You might have a fatal heart-attack on the way down, and be dead before you hit anything:(

dfx-

Biggins wrote: »

My question is, does a plane "crash" just at the said moment of impact or should we say it is crashing - as its actually falling?

Just a question over proper used of the word!
(I might have said the plane crashed 38,000 feet)

For me, crash refers to the point where the plane was no longer in one piece, be it the plane breaking up with no impact or otherwise..

In this case, the plane was intact hitting the water, so that's when it crashed. Obviously different for the likes of TWA800 or mid-air collisions or the flight (AeroPeru?) that basically submerged itself whole in the Pacific Ocean instead of crashing.