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VRT last rules?

  • 25-05-2011 8:58pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭


    Hi guys,

    I am thinking about getting a new motor, but a working one this time.

    And I spotted something nice and sweet, but I am wondering if the VRT rules have change since last September?

    I know all the stuff about the documents, but I am wondering as they were talking about increasing the flat from €50 to €200 last year.

    Did it go ahead or is it still €50 of flat rate?

    Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭tinyjiney


    AFAIK its still €50..with John Gormless out of the picture now, everything will settle down again i hope....:rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,913 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    No, it's €200.

    See Classic Cars Charter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭tinyjiney


    macplaxton wrote: »
    No, it's €200.

    See Classic Cars Charter



    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:.......i did not know that...:(


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,913 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    yep, signed off ages ago. Just like the NCT thing that starts in a few days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭shawnee


    Friend of mine has an 1983 car which he brought in from England a year ago. He now wants to vrt it. Has that car to be nctd to todays standard and will there be a question as to where it was for last 12 months. It s been in the shed but will there be a penalty for not vrt ing it earlier ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭superfly35


    I don't think penalty with applied as it will pay not a classic VRT.
    To be honest, the governement are completely crazy arround the car industry here.

    The insurance are not regulated, and the VRT make no sense and the road tax....
    But they keep ask for more money when the people don't have any and wonder why people are immigrating... I will stick there.... :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,392 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    shawnee wrote: »
    Friend of mine has an 1983 car which he brought in from England a year ago. He now wants to vrt it. Has that car to be nctd to todays standard and will there be a question as to where it was for last 12 months. It s been in the shed but will there be a penalty for not vrt ing it earlier ?

    What car is it?

    Lotus Elan turbo for sale:

    https://www.adverts.ie/vehicles/lotus-elan-turbo/35456469

    My ads on adverts.ie:

    https://www.adverts.ie/member/5856/ads



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭shawnee


    Its a 230 merc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    it will need to be NCTd to todays standards for an 83 car. I think it possible that emissions for instance arent as tough as on a newer vehicle.(I dont have chapter and verse on that so feel free to shoot me down)

    They will want to see evidence of when it was bought and when it came into the country...i dont think they check that throughly though...initative required here....:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Itsfixed


    yeah, co2 emissions must be less than 4.5% for cars first registered before 1986, from 1986 to 1994 its 3.5%; and after 1994, its 0.05%. So emissions becomes very tough after 1994.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    What did you spot, superfly35?? :)

    shawnee - I can't see the VRT crowd caring too much as you won't be claiming classic VRT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭superfly35


    Dades wrote: »
    What did you spot, superfly35?? :)

    shawnee - I can't see the VRT crowd caring too much as you won't be claiming classic VRT.


    Dades I spotted a 924 in working order for very small money, and I am thinking of getting it.
    To make me wait my project completion.
    Do you have a classic policy for yours of a normal policy, I would like a normal policy have a look but i can't find one. Do you have an idea?

    Cheers.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    superfly35 wrote: »
    Dades I spotted a 924 in working order for very small money, and I am thinking of getting it.
    To make me wait my project completion.
    Do you have a classic policy for yours of a normal policy, I would like a normal policy have a look but i can't find one. Do you have an idea?

    Cheers.
    Ohh another 924 for you - great!

    I do have a classic policy, but if I was looking for a 'normal' policy maybe try First Ireland. They insured me on a normal policy for a '72 Fiat.

    Got a link to that 924 (maybe a PM?) I promise you I won't buy it on ya!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭HiKite


    Are you the same superfly that bought a 924 with a 2.8 Nissan Turbodiesel in it? Was dying to see and hear that :0)
    superfly35 wrote: »
    Dades I spotted a 924 in working order for very small money, and I am thinking of getting it.
    To make me wait my project completion.
    Do you have a classic policy for yours of a normal policy, I would like a normal policy have a look but i can't find one. Do you have an idea?

    Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭superfly35


    Dades wrote: »
    Ohh another 924 for you - great!

    I do have a classic policy, but if I was looking for a 'normal' policy maybe try First Ireland. They insured me on a normal policy for a '72 Fiat.

    Got a link to that 924 (maybe a PM?) I promise you I won't buy it on ya!

    I ring them up but still dear for me €867 for thrid with break down.
    It might turn out it will be cheaper to keep the actual daily driver and insure this other one as a classic car.
    It is a bit of a pity I wanted by this to simply have less vehicle as well.

    I need to put more thinking, and ring few more insurance.
    HiKite wrote: »
    Are you the same superfly that bought a 924 with a 2.8 Nissan Turbodiesel in it? Was dying to see and hear that :0)

    It is possible I meet this guy before ;) a very nice fella :D.
    I have not starting her up in a long time, but it is a diesel engine so it will fire.

    HiKite, it was a nice idea to buy a porsche 924 ;-) they are great vehicle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭a_v525


    I think I know which '24 the mad Frenchman has his eye on!

    Is it a 1981 AUTO going for around £550 by chance??? ;)

    Ask the seller to sit on it for a few months until she hits 30 then take her over here, he shouldnt mind if you throw him a few quid to sit on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭superfly35


    a_v525 wrote: »
    I think I know which '24 the mad Frenchman has his eye on!

    Is it a 1981 AUTO going for around £550 by chance??? ;)

    Ask the seller to sit on it for a few months until she hits 30 then take her over here, he shouldnt mind if you throw him a few quid to sit on it.

    It could be this one effectively ;) but I think she is from 1980 or better 1979 but I will no more soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭HiKite


    superfly35 wrote: »
    HiKite, it was a nice idea to buy a porsche 924 ;-) they are great vehicle.

    Yep, it's great fun to drive, I've sourced the first wave of fiddly spares, installing them will be the fun part! When I mentioned that I'd be doing some DIY to the car, my girlfriend referred me to our sons favourite book: http://www.jezalborough.com/characters/duck/fix-it_duck.html

    I was lucky enough to get a 1979 chassis, with a 1984 engine and 944 gearbox; I've been told that the gasket has been rebuilt recently, but I won't know this for sure until I get it checked out.

    Main thing for the minute is €48 Road tax and no NCT :0)


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,913 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    shawnee wrote: »
    Friend of mine has an 1983 car which he brought in from England a year ago. He now wants to vrt it....will there be a question as to where it was for last 12 months. It s been in the shed but will there be a penalty for not vrt ing it earlier ?

    Answering this part of the question.

    It's a "maybe" as to whether the Revenue decide to "raise an assessment" and issue "a notice of assessment", basically an addition charge for late registration.
    In this regard, an assessment may be raised and a notice of assessment issued (See Appendix 6) (by an authorised officer*) in a Revenue office. The Revenue officer should examine:
    • the data collected and entered for the vehicle,
    • existing Revenue information including any VRT 32 forms issued by the Enforcement Units in relation to the vehicle,
    • and other relevant information to hand,
    before determining that an additional charge is appropriate

    To calculate the additional charge the steps outlined below should be followed:
    • Calculate the VRT charge in the normal way.
    • Determine from the information to hand the number of days the vehicle has been in the State unregistered.
    • Calculate an additional charge of 0.1% of the VRT charge for each of these days.
    Issue an assessment to the registered owner of the vehicle.
    (Extract from VRT Manual Section 1 - 1.4.8.3)

    If you have an invoice, the date stated on that until date of registration will be the number of days the vehicle has been in the State unregistered. ;)

    e.g. if it was calculated to be 365 days unregistered and the VRT calculated was €720, then that would potentially be an additional €262.80.

    It does of course really depend on how long it has been in the State, and that would depend on what is on the paperwork required to be submitted.


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