Sega Megadrive 1, 2, cd, that 32 thingy, Saturn and Dreamcast

OwaynOTT · 24-05-2011 3:16pm #1

Ive never owned a Sega and only played a few of its games on friends consoles when younger namely Streets of Rage 1 and 2, Goldenaxe, Sonic and Altered Beast.

Just been looking at the consoles and compared to Nintendo there's a lot of them.

Whats up with the Megadrives and Genesis (spelling?)? Are the all near enough the same?

Is the Saturn a good console?

Do I need a Sega CD?

And what is this 32 ex thing? Is that even a thing?

Basically which ones are worth getting and which has the best games?

Also what do I need for a Dreamcast? Also what the prices of them?

Thanks if you can help.

o1s1n · 24-05-2011 3:26pm

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Whats up with the Megadrives and Genesis (spelling?)? Are the all near enough the same?

Exact same console. The name 'Megadrive' was already copywrited in the US so they needed a different name for that region.

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Is the Saturn a good console?

Yep, but to truely appreciate it you'll need to import Japanese games as a hell of a lot of them weren't released here. Either that or they have a very low number and are expensive.

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Do I need a Sega CD?

Not nearly as much as you need a Megadrive and a Saturn!

OwaynOTT wrote: »

And what is this 32 ex thing? Is that even a thing?

It's an add on for the Megadrive which plugs into the top and has it's own games. Was Segas biggest failure..there's only about 30 or so games for the system.

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Basically which ones are worth getting and which has the best games?

Also what do I need for a Dreamcast? Also what the prices of them?

Thanks if you can help.

Buy a Megadrive, Saturn and a Dreamcast. They're by far the best three systems. The Mega CD and the 32X are just for die hard Sega collectors really.

Retr0gamer · 24-05-2011 3:33pm

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Whats up with the Megadrives and Genesis (spelling?)? Are the all near enough the same?

Genesis is the american name for the Megadrive. It was the Megadrive in japan as well.

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Is the Saturn a good console?

Yes it's a fantastic system. However be prepared to fork out. There's only a few games that made it to the west that were actually any good. Japan on the other hand has a slew of amazing releases for the system. You'll need a way to play these games which means a console and an action replay 4 in 1 cart. Also if you get a PAL console a 50/60 Hz switch is essential (same with the megadrive). That will cost money. Next, some of the best saturn games are very expensive so either fork out lots of money or fork out for a system that has been chipped.

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Do I need a Sega CD?

There's some excellent Sega CD games but if you don't want the expense then you might be better off emulating. Games like Snatcher, Lunar 1 and 2, Keio Flying Squadron and Robo Aleste as well as a few more mean there's a good few excellent titles on the system.

OwaynOTT wrote: »

And what is this 32 ex thing? Is that even a thing?

The 32X eh... might not be worth it. Outside of some good arcade conversions and a version of Doom that's terrible but has the bonus of music with drum samples that sound like someone is farting on you it's not worth the bother. The ports are available on the saturn or through emulation anyway,

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Basically which ones are worth getting and which has the best games?

Too many amazing games to recommend sorry!

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Also what do I need for a Dreamcast? Also what the prices of them?

Do you really need to ask that? Short answer:

Of course you ****ing need one! It's a brilliant system! Cheap as chips as well.

FearDark · 24-05-2011 3:36pm

In this order you need.

Dreamcast
Megadrive
Saturn

You do not need.

Sega CD
32x

OwaynOTT · 24-05-2011 3:37pm

are the street fighter and xmen games are to get as pal versions?

ive no jap imports, are they much different to pal games?

Or is it just language?

Retr0gamer · 24-05-2011 3:41pm

Don't bother with Street Fighter 2 on the megadrive. There's far better arcade perfect versions.

If you are playing PAL games on a PAL console expect to endure horrible borders and slowed down games. It's why I recommended a 50/60hz switch mod.

OwaynOTT · 24-05-2011 3:42pm

by the way im an idiot

Mr.Saturn · 24-05-2011 4:13pm

Oh, the Dreamcast. Give it an hour, you'll consider it closer than family. Such a rich system, with an even richer catalogue of titles to choose from. Can do no wrong investing in one now, while they're still on the right side of fifty as prices are starting to swing upwards already.

Retr0gamer wrote: »

If you are playing PAL games on a PAL console expect to endure horrible borders and slowed down games. It's why I recommended a 50/60hz switch mod.

Have you ever considered counting how many times a month you write this?

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 24-05-2011 4:40pm

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

Have you ever considered counting how many times a month you write this?

lmao no mention of radiant/pds yet

landsleaving · 24-05-2011 4:41pm

The Dreamcast is my favourite console ever, just beats out the SNES. It's pretty much your personal arcade if you pick up a lightgun and arcade stick. Add classics like Grandia II, Shenmue 1 and 2 and Skies of Arcadia and it (to steal sony's gimmick) only does everything :pac:

You'll probably get one for around €30 if you're patient.

Mega Drive is well worth getting, and most of the classics are fairly easy to find and cheap enough.

Saturn is a great system, but far more pricey than the others to build a decent collection of games for.

The others I'd pass on to be honest, and unless you really really want to spend the cash leave the Saturn, I fully intended to build a decent library of games for mine and ended up just selling it.

Buy a dreamcast, basically. :P

CiDeRmAn · 24-05-2011 4:43pm

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Ive never owned a Sega and only played a few of its games on friends consoles when younger namely Streets of Rage 1 and 2, Goldenaxe, Sonic and Altered Beast.

You sick, sick man, you're barred from this forum, aside from Sonic playing nothing but terrible MD games, deary, deary me..
Ok, I'll give you one more chance, but I'll be watching!

Just been looking at the consoles and compared to Nintendo there's a lot of them.

Yes, yes there is, well observed young Padawan.

Whats up with the Megadrives and Genesis (spelling?)? Are the all near enough the same?

The Megadrive is normally the PAL one, and if you find it in a charity shop or car boot sale buy it but don't tell anyone here, as they are touchy about PAL anything!
The Genesis is the US Ntsc model and revered here in the same way WWE fans love The Rock.

Is the Saturn a good console?

If you asked in the Playstation forum they'd kill you where you stand, if you asked in the Sega forum they'd kill you for even asking! But yes, if you don't mind ropey 3D rendering but superlative sprite handling, it's a great machine!

Do I need a Sega CD?

In a word, No.

And what is this 32 ex thing? Is that even a thing?

In two words, Nopedy No.

Basically which ones are worth getting and which has the best games?

Megadrive, Saturn and the DC, there are peeps here addicted to lists and will gladly satisfy their OCD by reeling a couple out with all their favourite games, starting with ones in Japanese about dating or shooting enemies through a hell of bullets before it goes on to the dating.

Also what do I need for a Dreamcast? Also what the prices of them?

You need three things,
1- A Dreamcast, very important this.
2- A TV, see point 1
3- A game or two.

And that's it! Oh, two working hands with thumbs is pretty important too, unless you have Seaman!

Thanks if you can help.

You're welcome, any time!

Retr0gamer · 24-05-2011 5:20pm

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

Have you ever considered counting how many times a month you write this?

Just spreading the good word about 60Hz and stamping out the menace of PAL games and composite cables.

Dr Bob · 24-05-2011 7:11pm

<cough> mastersystem <cough>

paperwork · 24-05-2011 7:19pm

luas_dublin wrote: »

<cough> mastersystem <cough>

Oh yeah, dont forget to get one of these, I actually prefer the mastersystem and DC to the Megadrive... some lovely Sonic games on it as well as Alex Kidd.

CiDeRmAn · 24-05-2011 7:42pm

paperwork wrote: »

Oh yeah, dont forget to get one of these, I actually prefer the mastersystem and DC to the Megadrive... some lovely Sonic games on it as well as Alex Kidd.

Don't worry about your coat, we'll send it on to you later, on fire!

paperwork · 24-05-2011 7:56pm

Oh the sonic games on it are really trippy and weird when compared to the more mainstream sonic games, I mean one of them started in a desert... not a grassy wonderland, A DESERT!

Also you have Zillion, Alex Kidd, a deadly version of Space Harrier, Fantasy Zone was so colourful compared to other games around the same time and then there was My Hero, a terrible game, but I have Rain Man like skills on it.

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 24-05-2011 7:57pm

Saturn pal cases,most are tacky condition now,

Sega rally case-

Japan edition jewel case

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Retr0gamer · 24-05-2011 8:05pm

paperwork wrote: »

Oh yeah, dont forget to get one of these, I actually prefer the mastersystem and DC to the Megadrive

Some people think Goldeneye is still relevant but this here is a new level of wrong.

paperwork · 24-05-2011 8:06pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Some people think Goldeneye is still relevant but this here is a new level of wrong.

Hey, Goldeneye still has something to say!

o1s1n · 24-05-2011 8:34pm

paperwork wrote: »

Hey, Goldeneye still has something to say!

Indeed it does.

'I'm old and tired, please let me die in peace!'

CiDeRmAn · 24-05-2011 8:34pm

NO NO NO!
We are not revisiting people on the fail submarine sinking into the depths of the wrong wrong sea by trying to slag off Goldeneye.
I'm trying to be impartial here!

Retr0gamer · 24-05-2011 8:36pm

paperwork wrote: »

Hey, Goldeneye still has something to say!

Goldeneye: (looking like cranky kong from Donkey Kong Country) I'm old archaic and have been left behind. Damn you crazy kids and you're halos and call of duties and battlefields. I can barely muster 10 FPS anymore what with these creaky N64 chipsets.

paperwork · 24-05-2011 8:45pm

Well what i was just saying is that Mastersystem games have a really distinctive colourful, but primitive look... and i love that look, the SMS was my first non Atari console.

and regarding Goldeneye, say what you will about the single player (as I haven't played it in Donkeys years), but the multiplayer still holds up!

Retr0gamer · 24-05-2011 9:00pm

Aye. Get 4 drunk mates together and play any old ****e and it's still fun. I terms of being able to stand up with the best multiplayer shooters I feel goldeneye falls far short. In terms of being a right old laugh with the right people it still holds up. And at least it gives you 4 player split screen unlike most FPS games these days. I'd rather play something ropey like Goldeneye with 4 mates in the same room than online with strangers or even people I know.

I actually really like the master system sonics. Really good, actually kind of challenging and a different feel to the megadrive ones. The handglider in Sonic 2 can **** right off though.

Pyongyang · 24-05-2011 9:04pm

Transbot was my favorite Master System game.

dlofnep · 24-05-2011 9:13pm

Master System was my first console. Had both the original and the master system II. Alex Kidd in Miracle World built in. Had the card slots for games, although I never actually had one for it. Had a rake of cartridges though - all the classics, Sonic 1 & 2, Enduro Racer, Vigilante, Columns, Cool Spot, Alex Kidd, After Burner, Alien Storm, Castle of Illusion, Chuck Rock, Paperboy, California games, Double Dragon, Ghouls 'n Ghosts, James Pond, Marble madness, Mortal Kombat... er.. Outrun.. Had ****ing loads of games. Can't remember them all now. Wish I still had it.

Jack burton · 24-05-2011 9:33pm

Pyongyang wrote: »

Transbot was my favorite Master System game.

Transbot, Its the only game i have for the master system, the card edition.

But if you want sega stuff you need to get it all, Mega CD, 32X, a complete model 1 MD with all attachments still looks great under any tv now :cool:

dlofnep · 24-05-2011 9:48pm

Angry Nintendo Nerd did alot of reviews on the Sega consoles. They are very good.

32x

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvR_3OTxs8A

Sega CD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eH3vYbdGo

Mcjmetroid · 25-05-2011 3:53pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Goldeneye: (looking like cranky kong from Donkey Kong Country) I'm old archaic and have been left behind. Damn you crazy kids and you're halos and call of duties and battlefields. I can barely muster 10 FPS anymore what with these creaky N64 chipsets.

There's no denying it was a benchmark, but ya a lot of fans seriously can't let go.. it's dated to HELL and anyone who says otherwise is seriously blinded by nostalgia.

paperwork · 25-05-2011 4:38pm

*firmly ties nostalgia blindfold around eyes*

batari · 25-05-2011 5:22pm

you could easily be offended round here if you're not used to it I guess, everyone has an opinion and a favourite. Master System rules Sega for me too considering how much they managed to push the machine

o1s1n · 25-05-2011 6:03pm

batari wrote: »

you could easily be offended round here if you're not used to it I guess, everyone has an opinion and a favourite. Master System rules Sega for me too considering how much they managed to push the machine

No no, it's pronounced 'M-E-G-A D-R-I-V-E', not Master System.

Don't worry, you'll get it eventually

Adyx · 25-05-2011 11:51pm

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Alex Kidd in Miracle World is better than SMB 1 (and 2 - but that goes without saying).

paperwork · 26-05-2011 5:45pm

Adyx wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Alex Kidd in Miracle World is better than SMB 1 (and 2 - but that goes without saying).

Oh, no i wouldn't go that far! It certainly looks better than SMB1, but Mario has a more refined design and is a much greater challenge.

LoGiE · 26-05-2011 7:26pm

Adyx wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Alex Kidd in Miracle World is better than SMB 1 (and 2 - but that goes without saying).

Have you been sniffing paint thinner or something! I'm calling shenanigans right now... :pac:

oh and no more about bloody Golden Eye! :P

CiDeRmAn · 26-05-2011 7:30pm

Adyx wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Alex Kidd in Miracle World is better than SMB 1 (and 2 - but that goes without saying).

paperwork wrote: »

Oh, no i wouldn't go that far! It certainly looks better than SMB1, but Mario has a more refined design and is a much greater challenge.

I think you two should start your own forum, call it something appropriate like "Deluded Gamers Forum", you know, snappy yet descriptive, accurate but succinct.

I mean, whatever about debating Goldeneyes relevance or Treasures almost constant genius, or Demon's Souls pure dislike of casual gamers, but please, don't dis Super Mario Bros.

Berns · 26-05-2011 7:38pm

No mention of the "GameGear" was it?? :rolleyes:

Wasnt there some sorta combined Megadrive/CD system made. Never got one but remember wanted to get it one xmas, but dad couldnt manage to get it over here. Maybe as well didnt :rolleyes:
Edit : Multi Mega

Tipsy McSwagger · 26-05-2011 7:41pm

Ok I'm a long time gamer and have owned a nes,snes,n64,gamecube,wii, all the game boys,spectrum,ps1,ps2,ps3,xbox,xbox 360,psp,psp go and my personal favourite the Dreamcast. I have never owned but played the atari 2600 and the mega drive. So what you ask? Well it just dawned on me that I have never even seen a sega master system. I was a big Nintendo fan back in the early 90s and sega was the enemy so this is the reason I ignored the ms which I now regret.

CiDeRmAn · 26-05-2011 7:41pm

I've got one, its a MultiMega/CDX, a combined Megadrive and MegaCD and looks very nice.
It could also be used as a rudimentary discman (if you are not sure what a discman is, feck off!)

o1s1n · 27-05-2011 10:30am

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I've got one, its a MultiMega/CDX, a combined Megadrive and MegaCD and looks very nice.
It could also be used as a rudimentary discman (if you are not sure what a discman is, feck off!)

Heh, imagine Commodore did something similar with a Walkman/tape deck.

Why did we never get games on vinyl?!

Pyongyang · 27-05-2011 10:46am

o1s1n wrote: »

Why did we never get games on vinyl?!

RCA Selectavision is about as close as you'll get to that pipe dream.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Capacitance_Electronic_Disc

I actually hope to hunt one down some day, you can get Back To The Future on CED!

o1s1n · 27-05-2011 11:25am

Pyongyang wrote: »

RCA Selectavision is about as close as you'll get to that pipe dream.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Capacitance_Electronic_Disc

I actually hope to hunt one down some day, you can get Back To The Future on CED!

Wow! Never heard of that before!

edit - seems they're not that expensive either. Would go nicely beside my reel to reel tape deck!

LoGiE · 27-05-2011 12:36pm

Pyongyang wrote: »

RCA Selectavision is about as close as you'll get to that pipe dream.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Capacitance_Electronic_Disc

I actually hope to hunt one down some day, you can get Back To The Future on CED!

What the jenkins is that!

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 27-05-2011 12:49pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Why did we never get games on vinyl?!

Very small amount where released on speccy along with flexi disc-

http://www.kempa.com/2004/03/09/vinyl-data/

Loading from flexi disc-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZIoa3qAwx4

Late 80s codemasters released cd games pack for spec/c64-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtBpgr1c3zQ

The ULTIMATE COMBO was pioneer laseractive,which played MD/MCD/Laserdisc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfOdddTQZ-Y

Azure_sky · 27-05-2011 12:53pm

Whats up with the Megadrives and Genesis (spelling?)? Are the all near enough the same?

Exact same machines. They just decided to name it the Genesis the U.S.---probably to appeal to Republican voters and Phil Collins fans.:pac:

Is the Saturn a good console?

Most of it's best games were released in Japan only so you'd have to sort out the region coding crap. There's some great 2-D shooters and the Saturns coversions of 2-D fighters were always far better than the over rated PS1. The games that did make it to these shores are pretty good anyway. There's some great Sega arcade games: Virtua Fighter 2, Virtua cop, Daytona etc.

Do I need a Sega CD?

Only "must have" game for it is Sonic CD, which some people consider the best Sonic game ever made. Most of the games are crap.

And what is this 32 ex thing? Is that even a thing?

Like the Mega CD it was designed to boost the power of the Megadrive which was showing it's age compared to the Snes which was throwing out beautiful games like Donkey Kong country, Killer Instinct, Star wing and Stunt race FX. It was a massive commercial failure. I had one and it's a shame as there's some decent conversions of Virtua racing, Knuckles chaotix, Mortal Kombat 2 and Doom. The 32X version of Virtua Fighter was ironically far superior to the Saturn version. You should be able to pick it up dirt cheap. Make sure you get all the cables though.

Basically which ones are worth getting and which has the best games?

All of them apart from the Mega CD. If you can find the 32X and a few good games dirt cheap then it might be worth a go.

Also what do I need for a Dreamcast? Also what the prices of them?

About fifty Euro for a console I'm guessing.

Retr0gamer · 27-05-2011 1:18pm

I'd say the Mega CD is far better than the 32X. Plenty of great games on it that are unique to the system unlike the 32X. And none of them are Sonic CD which I think is vastly overrated and not all that good.

Dr Bob · 27-05-2011 7:23pm

Berns wrote: »

No mention of the "GameGear" was it?? :rolleyes:

Wasnt there some sorta combined Megadrive/CD system made. Never got one but remember wanted to get it one xmas, but dad couldnt manage to get it over here. Maybe as well didnt :rolleyes:
Edit : Multi Mega

was talking to the fella in RAGE yesterday , and he showed me one of them they got in ..they havent priced it yet (as far as yesterday anyway)

Dr Bob · 27-05-2011 7:26pm

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I think you two should start your own forum, call it something appropriate like "Deluded Gamers Forum", you know, snappy yet descriptive, accurate but succinct.

I mean, whatever about debating Goldeneyes relevance or Treasures almost constant genius, or Demon's Souls pure dislike of casual gamers, but please, don't dis Super Mario Bros.

I'd like to sign up for that forum then,as other than smb1 , I've never really been a fan of the hirsute Italian plumbers games...

Relikk · 27-05-2011 9:17pm

luas_dublin wrote: »

was talking to the fella in RAGE yesterday , and he showed me one of them they got in ..they havent priced it yet (as far as yesterday anyway)

They wanted 200 quid for it last Saturday. No doubt they've been told it's not worth that much and are deliberating on a new one.

OniKen · 05-06-2011 7:12pm

Personaly The megadrive is my fave console, still, the satern is underated but is good and the dreamcast is also really good. You only need those three really. I do recomend megadrive, satern and dreamcast, there really good consoles.

CiDeRmAn · 05-06-2011 8:35pm

OniKen wrote: »

Personaly The megadrive is my fave console, still, the satern is underated but is good and the dreamcast is also really good. You only need those three really. I do recomend megadrive, satern and dreamcast, there really good consoles.

I prefer the Snus and the Pleystation myself!

Sorry for the above attempt at humour, but that should probably be "Saturn" as in big planet with the pretty rings or father of the Roman god Jupiter.

Couldn't help it, you said it twice!

Sega Megadrive 1, 2, cd, that 32 thingy, Saturn and Dreamcast

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