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How does Harold Camping and his crew explain the world not ending?

  • 21-05-2011 6:44pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭


    I just have to wonder how these people justify their beliefs after they have been proven wrong. This guy also predicted the end of the world in 1994. His explanation? He got the date wrong. It's a bit bizarre that they can be so confident as to fork out a few grand on billboard messages telling us all that the world is coming to an end. So tomorrow morning when these guys wake up on the 22nd of May, how do they justify their beliefs? No doubt he'll say he got the dates wrong again but if he was so sure, that's got to affect your beliefs. I suppose these people are so deluded but it does baffle the mind.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭thehairyelbow


    Third time lucky maybe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    He didnt carry the 2.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    It did rain rather heavily here. Had me worried for a moment:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭ArtyM


    Once our minds are set we do not only fail to seek disconfirming evidence but also actively fight against it once presented--a cognitive habit called ‘belief perseverance,' demonstrated by an old joke:
    A patient appears at the psychiatrist's office claiming that he's dead. The psychiatrist asks: "Do you know that dead people don't bleed?""Of course," answers the patient, "everybody knows that."
    The psychiatrist then takes a needle, pokes the patient's finger, and lo and behold, blood drips out.
    The patient looks at his bleeding finger and says: "I'll be darned, Doc; dead people do bleed!"


    Source: www. psychologytoday .com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Maybe we didn't send him enough money.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Found this..:D

    His refusal to schedule a media interview for the following day - “It is absolutely going to happen. There is no way that I can schedule an interview because I won’t be here.” - was being replayed by media as the world firmly stayed standing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    I can imagine him now, surrounded by followers, saying "Did you think I said 'rapture'? Oh dear me no, I said, er...I'm off to have a fap sure...yeh, that's it!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    I can imagine him now, surrounded by followers, saying "Did you think I said 'rapture'? Oh dear me no, I said, er...I'm off to have a fap sure...yeh, that's it!"

    "No, I'm certain I said raptors, see, Jurassic Park is on tonight.."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Dunny




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭ArtyM




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  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If nothing else, HIS world will come to an end! who will listen to him in the future...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 RRaff


    He'll just say his prayers were answered and after a long think and maybe a cup of tea Jesus decided to give us more time! Those type of people have an answer for everything! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭thomasj


    Didn't he say the earthquake would be at 6 us time?

    Not that I believe it. Do you believe they had timepieces in Gospel times to dictate what time it is?

    The Bible states the rapture will come when we don't expect it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    He was right. It was God who got the date wrong. He must have one of those old calenders...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭thomasj


    I heard stories of families blowing their entire income expecting this. I really feel for the children especially


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,642 ✭✭✭cml387


    A lot of complacency here.

    Today is not over yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Dummy used the Gregorian calendar so is 10 days too soon. Watch this space on the 31st.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Forest Master


    JuneBug29 wrote: »
    I just have to wonder how these people justify their beliefs after they have been proven wrong. This guy also predicted the end of the world in 1994. His explanation? He got the date wrong. It's a bit bizarre that they can be so confident as to fork out a few grand on billboard messages telling us all that the world is coming to an end. So tomorrow morning when these guys wake up on the 22nd of May, how do they justify their beliefs? No doubt he'll say he got the dates wrong again but if he was so sure, that's got to affect your beliefs. I suppose these people are so deluded but it does baffle the mind.

    Religious people find crazy excuses to rationalise unfounded and illogical beliefs all the time - it's what all religion is based on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    cml387 wrote: »
    A lot of complacency here.

    Today is not over yet.

    Yeah, but c'mon, who starts an apocalypse after 8pm?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭hare05


    WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIEEEeee......_ eventually. Any day now.

    Those raptors will learn to open doors soon.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    deathrider wrote: »
    Yeah, but c'mon, who starts an apocalypse after 8pm?

    And on a Saturday too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    I think God was merely pointing to the end of gagging orders as we know it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    People are making Harold Camping jokes like there is no tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,228 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I think the Jehovah's Witnesses told everyone that the world was going to end in 1975, but they're still around unfortunately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    thomasj wrote: »
    I heard stories of families blowing their entire income expecting this.
    They should have got a receipt with ' money back option if not satisfied ' when they subscribed

    And also read terms of condition small print at the bottom of page


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    I think the Jehovah's Witnesses told everyone that the world was going to end in 1975, but they're still around unfortunately.

    ... Did the world end then? I must have missed it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,642 ✭✭✭cml387


    deathrider wrote: »
    Yeah, but c'mon, who starts an apocalypse after 8pm?
    There 's still plenty of time for the veil of the temple to be rent in twain about two minutes before we see the sign of the manifest flying beast-head in the sky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    cml387 wrote: »
    There 's still plenty of time for the veil of the temple to be rent in twain about two minutes before we see the sign of the manifest flying beast-head in the sky.

    I have no idea what you just said :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    cml387 wrote: »
    There 's still plenty of time for the veil of the temple to be rent in twain about two minutes before we see the sign of the manifest flying beast-head in the sky.

    even putting that through Google Translate has failed to turn it into anything remotely comprehensible


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Colilfc


    Simple really innit?
    The conviction that the world will end at 6pm today comes from a mathematical system he claims to have devised for unearthing prophesies hidden in the Bible. By his logic, 21 May 2011 is exactly 722,500 days from 1 April AD33, which he believes was the day of Christ's Crucifixion. The figure of 722,500 is important because you get it by multiplying three holy numbers (five, 10 and 17) together twice.

    "It's all here, in black and white," he says, waving a well-thumbed copy of the Old Testament


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭hare05


    Colilfc wrote: »
    Simple really innit?

    Wouldn't you want non-holy numbers? It's meant to be gods killing each other, isn't it?

    Wait... that's Ragnarok.

    ... At least they get a show for the apocalypse, we just get 4 idiots on horses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,642 ✭✭✭cml387


    even putting that through Google Translate has failed to turn it into anything remotely comprehensible
    You didn't Google enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭Dunjohn


    Colilfc wrote: »
    Simple really innit?

    And all this from a book about a guy who doesn't even know his own birthday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,073 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Mr. Camping has released a special announcement on his website, about this:
    Yes, we humbly acknowledge we were wrong about the timing; yet though we were wrong God is still using the May 21 warning in a very mighty way. In the months following May 21 the Bible has, in some ways, come out from under the shadows and is now being discussed by all kinds of people who never before paid any attention to the Bible. We learn about this, for example, by the recent National Geographic articles concerning the King James Bible and the Apostles. Reading about and even discussing about the Bible can never be a bad thing, even if the Bible’s authenticity is questioned or ridiculed. The world’s attention has been called to the Bible.


    We must also openly acknowledge that we have no new evidence pointing to another date for the end of the world. Though many dates are circulating, Family Radio has no interest in even considering another date. God has humbled us through the events of May 21, to continue to even more fervently search the Scriptures (the Bible), not to find dates, but to be more faithful in our understanding.


    We have learned the very painful lesson that all of creation is in God’s hands and He will end time in His time, not ours! We humbly recognize that God may not tell His people the date when Christ will return, any more than He tells anyone the date they will die physically.
    Good spin job ... not. :pac:

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



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