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Why are people so bad wanting to see Obama?
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21-05-2011 2:24pm#1I am not sure if this is allowed here if it isnt could one of the mods move it to proper forum.
I was looking at the pictures about obama coming and the people all rushing for tickets to see him.
What is all the melodrama about to see a politician?
Why are people such sheep about this stuff?
What is the big deal about Obama 0
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I am not sure if this is allowed here if it isnt could one of the mods move it to proper forum.
I was looking at the pictures about obama coming and the people all rushing for tickets to see him.
What is all the melodrama about to see a politician?
Why are people such sheep about this stuff?
What is the big deal about Obama
These type of sneering, condescending posts are really beginning to irritate me. Every weekend, tens of thousands of Irish people tune into or attend local GAA matches, League of Ireland games, premiership matches, international golf tournaments, and a myriad of other sporting events. Every September, counties turn out in force, in rail or sleet or snow, in order to welcome back victorious GAA teams. Every day of the week, celebs and stars all over the world are stopped for their autographs, or a photo. Are all these people sheep too?
Indeed, caseyann, the Republican movement has several individuals who can ensure a large turnout at any event. People, especially in America, pay large amounts to hear Gerry Adams speak, while, here in Ireland, he is well used to expounding his views to large groups of people who arrive to hang on his every word. Are all these people sheep too?
In the 19th century, massive crowds gathered across Ireland, in towns and villages, and from huge distances, to hear the great speakers of the day- Parnell, O'Connell etc. Were they all sheep too?
What irritates me most about all the sneering cant from some people, is that it's entirely inconsistent. They'd have no problem attending rallies to listen to people that share their philosophy, they'd have no problem going out of their way to hear the words of someone they were interested in, and they'd never speak supersciliously about those who attended the great Victorian era rallies- but when other people wish to welcome the Queen, or hear a speech by the most powerful man in the world, they feign bemusement, and shake their heads in an entirely fabricated mixture of surprise and mockery.
I'm going to Dublin on Monday, because it'll be something a bit out of the ordinary, and I have nothing else to do. I'll enjoy the day, and I'll enjoy listening to the most powerful man in the world, a man also renowned for his oratory. I'm also an admirer of the man, and it will be interesting to see him up close (relatively speaking), and hear what he has to say in person. Apart from all that, it will be something onw hich I can look back in years to come, and say, I was there. That may seem lowbrow to you, but I'll be enjoying the day with thosands of others, whilst commentators with your outlook sit sniping at people who are engaged in what, for them, is a wonderful experience.0 -
These type of sneering, condescending posts are really beginning to irritate me. Every weekend, tens of thousands of Irish people tune into or attend local GAA matches, League of Ireland games, premiership matches, international golf tournaments, and a myriad of other sporting events. Every September, counties turn out in force, in rail or sleet or snow, in order to welcome back victorious GAA teams. Every day of the week, celebs and stars all over the world are stopped for their autographs, or a photo. Are all these people sheep too?
Indeed, caseyann, the Republican movement has several individuals who can ensure a large turnout at any event. People, especially in America, pay large amounts to hear Gerry Adams speak, while, here in Ireland, he is well used to expounding his views to large groups of people who arrive to hang on his every word. Are all these people sheep too?
In the 19th century, massive crowds gathered across Ireland, in towns and villages, and from huge distances, to hear the great speakers of the day- Parnell, O'Connell etc. Were they all sheep too?
What irritates me most about all the sneering cant from some people, is that it's entirely inconsistent. They'd have no problem attending rallies to listen to people that share their philosophy, they'd have no problem going out of their way to hear the words of someone they were interested in, and they'd never speak supersciliously about those who attended the great Victorian era rallies- but when other people wish to welcome the Queen, or hear a speech by the most powerful man in the world, they feign bemusement, and shake their heads in an entirely fabricated mixture of surprise and mockery.
I'm going to Dublin on Monday, because it'll be something a bit out of the ordinary, and I have nothing else to do. I'll enjoy the day, and I'll enjoy listening to the most powerful man in the world, a man also renowned for his oratory. I'm also an admirer of the man, and it will be interesting to see him up close (relatively speaking), and hear what he has to say in person. Apart from all that, it will be something onw hich I can look back in years to come, and say, I was there. That may seem lowbrow to you, but I'll be enjoying the day with thosands of others, whilst commentators with your outlook sit sniping at people who are engaged in what, for them, is a wonderful experience.
In response to all of that they are Irish
I dont see people who do it for their own presidents or what ever thats their problem, not the same thing.
He isnt Irish it isnt historic and he is no great person he is nothing more than a politician of another country.
Dont see people lining the streets for our president and them paying out that much money and arranging speeches and asking people to pay for their crappy rallies.
Does he ask for his own people to pay for tickets when he speaks in USA:eek: :eek:0 -
In response to all of that they are Irish
I dont see people who do it for their own presidents or what ever thats their problem, not the same thing.
He isnt Irish it isnt historic and he is no great person he is nothing more than a politician of another country.
Dont see people lining the streets for our president and them paying out that much money and arranging speeches and asking people to pay for their crappy rallies.
Does he ask for his own people to pay for tickets when he speaks in USA:eek: :eek:
This makes no sense. You would go to see see someone speak simply because they are Irish? Regardless of who they are or what they have to say? That makes you the sheep, a different kind of sheep but still a sheep.
He is a little more than a politician of another country, he is the president of the US. That's always been a big draw, he's also the first black president, which is pretty historic.
People do gather here to and often pay big money to hear Irish politicians speak about nothing in particular. It doesn't make the news because it's a common event. This isn't0 -
This makes no sense. You would go to see see someone speak simply because they are Irish? Regardless of who they are or what they have to say? That makes you the sheep, a different kind of sheep but still a sheep.
He is a little more than a politician of another country, he is the president of the US. That's always been a big draw, he's also the first black president, which is pretty historic.
People do gather here to and often pay big money to hear Irish politicians speak about nothing in particular. It doesn't make the news because it's a common event. This isn't
See there you go again ( he is the president of the US :eek: Again so what
He is the first black president so what
Still dont get it.When are people going to treat these people as exactly what they are normal everyday people who are given a job to do.Although they are doing it badly lol
What on earth is he going to say that people think is going to be anyway wow factor?
And in answer to the person above i dont go to any rallies or treat them or anyone any different than anyone else.
His political standing or what he says has nothing what so ever with Irish.But Irish politicians have duh
And i meant to GAA etc.. having big celebrations (called community ) 0 -
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If you don't get why a people want to see a oratorically charismatic, historic leader who against all odds obtained the highest political office in the world, breaking many glass ceilings in doing so; then I'm afraid you are incapable of understanding.
What are you on about historic He has done nothing historic,he is not charismatic and he hasnt even done one thing he said he would lol .He is no martin luther king.:rolleyes:
He is nothing more than a glorified fake
He wont make it into another term lol0 -
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What are you on about historic He has done nothing historic,he is not charismatic and he hasnt even done one thing he said he would lol .He is no martin luther king.:rolleyes:
He is nothing more than a glorified fake
- He's a second generation immigrant.
- He doesn't come from a powerful family or rich background.
- He fought of one of the biggest electoral organisations in US history to win the democratic primary
- He raised most of his funds not through large donations from rich families and organisations but from small donations from ordinary people
- He's black in a country that only banished segregation 45 years prior
Not historic? Pfftt, he was destined to go down in US history before he even took office. I'm not willing to argue against someone with blinkers on.0 -
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poppyvalley wrote: »Yes he will!- He's a second generation immigrant.
- He doesn't come from a powerful family or rich background.
- He fought of one of the biggest electoral organisations in US history to win the democratic primary
- He raised most of his funds not through large donations from rich families and organisations but from small donations from ordinary people
- He's black in a country that only banished segregation 45 years prior
Not historic? Pfftt, he was destined to go down in US history before he even took office. I'm not willing to argue against someone with blinkers on.
lol he he he he he,did none of them things.The campaign people did all of that.
Because i dont agree with you i have blinders on 0 -
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lol he he he he he,did none of them things.The campaign people did all of that.
Because i dont agree with you i have blinders on
Lol, sure I might as well sit on my ass, maybe next election I'll be Taoiseach.
You obviously are extremely naive/foolish to think he didn't play a hand in his own election. Yes, his campaign staff contributed, but to use the old cliché, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. If the man wasn't already extremely gifted, given his background even Karl Rove couldn't get him elected, and that man put an idiot in the oval office.0 -
allthedoyles wrote: »Heads of many countries go to USA to meet Obama .
He is coming here to meet us .
It must be good news for all
Not talking about that,i am asking what the hell are people lining streets like they are again bowing down to people who do absolutely nothing for.Like they are something to admire or adore.
Do they put on big operation for our leaders? and people come out to wave at them and bow down to them in other countries. 0 -
Lol, sure I might as well sit on my ass, maybe next election I'll be Taoiseach.
You obviously are extremely naive/foolish to think he didn't play a hand in his own election. Yes, his campaign staff contributed, but to use the old cliché, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. If the man wasn't already extremely gifted, given his background even Karl Rove couldn't get him elected, and that man put an idiot in the oval office.
He is nothing more than a poster boy 0 -
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He is nothing more than a poster boy
He most definitely is a poster boy, i.e the embodiment of an archetype, synonymous with an associated ideal. That takes a very carefully crafted public persona and is something every politician on the planet would kill for.
You attempt to use the word negatively, but for a politician it is the epitome.0 -
Seems like OP is simply a massive racist. Explains a lot
Nah, it's just caseyann; she's only slightly racist, at worst.
Once you've been around here a while, you'll come to understand her.
You'll be bemused, amused, shocked, appalled, left comtemplative: you'll laugh, you'll cry, be entertained and, ultimately, come to appreciate her.0 -
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Ireland has a population of 4.5 million, about a medium sized US city and comparatively little political clout. The US has a population of 300 million and is the worlds sole superpower. Comparing the highest political office in Ireland to that of the US, is akin to comparing winning the Dublin marathon to winning an Olympic Gold, they're completely different levels and you have to be an idiot to not see that.
I'm not going to respond to any more of your comment's as wasting my time is not something I enjoy.
Again why do you care or for that matter any Irish person care,you and they are nothing to america.
Fine and good having an interest over politics of other countries but fawning over them like they are gods. 0 -
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charlemont wrote: »Caseyann backwards is Ann Casey !! Are you Wayne Dundons wife ? :rolleyes:
Who the hell is wayne dundon 0 -
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I am listening to what you are saying doesnt mean i am going to change my mind,i am not asking you to convince me other than what i believe.
So why are you asking then?
You've been given lots of good reasons why Barack Obama is a significant contemporary politician; you've been given lots of good reasons why he's a historical figure, and finally, you've been given lots of reasons why people might find him a charismatic individual.
Like somebody else said, would be much weirder not to have an interest.0 -
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