Israel V Palestine....who's side are you on?

alcomoholic

Well, which side do you think is in the right? or which team are you on?
Nail your colours to the mast!!
I'm palestine for what it's worth!!

starbelgrade

In what.. The World Cup Religious Finals?

pebbles21

What Jew on about!

Links234

Whatever the side, they're all losers. Religion... sigh

Killing each other over who's imaginary friend is better.

admiralofthefleet

Israel, nearly every country in the region wants to wip them off the map so i believe they have a right to defend themselves

/runs

pragmatic1

Links234 wrote: »

Whatever the side, they're all losers. Religion... sigh

Killing each other over who's imaginary friend is better.

Jews and muslims lived in relative peace in that area until fairly recently. To say its simply due to religion isnt accurate.

Badgermonkey

If I sit on the fence will my Manaconda come to harm?

DrumSteve

A new and exciting thread that features a topic we have all been waiting to discuss. Awesome.

My name is URL

They're not football teams ffs

alcomoholic

Links234 wrote: »

Whatever the side, they're all losers. Religion... sigh

Killing each other over who's imaginary friend is better.

rich coming from you mate

Goodshape

westendgirlie

i'm on this

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tiger55

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvItZ2GS88A

Orion

I support our new dictators from Israelestine.

Fremen

Didn't vote. There's no option for "10% of them on either side are fúcking animals and I just feel sorry for the rest".

Saila

the winning one

brimal

Nice fishing OP. You will get plenty of bites in this thread.

Start an Israel v Palestine thread
Start a 'What do you really think of transexuals' thread

What's next troll?

Son Of A Vidic

I hear Palestine have signed Messi, so that's Israel fúcked.

WoollyRedHat

What are they?
Are they a sauce? If so, I think that they both have different tastes and it's up to each individual to choose which sauce they like best. I hope this answers your question, although I don't know why you want to know

ArtyM

Depends. Whos in midfield for the palestines? Rumour is ashid has a groin strain.

conscious

I don't like the zionist side of the Jews

grenache

There has been many atrocities committed on both side. But with Israel its often state sponsored ones.

Palestine > Israel

marcsignal

dont mention the war

CongoPowers

pebbles21 wrote: »

What Jew on about!

Jew jokes, eh?

I've read too many on here, anne frankly it makes me sick.

LondonIrish90

Don't really have a side.

However, I think that its often difficult to comprehend just how under siege Israelis feel in their own nation. Their Jewish ancestors originated from that region and they they have as much right as anyone to live there. Its a very small and mainly baron homeland, but it is their only homeland. Lets not forget that on quite a few occassions in the last 60 or so years their nation and people were under threat of being completely wiped out. I certainly sympathise more with them more than a lot of people who could never understand how it feels to have your nation and people's very existence under threat from all sides.

Nodin

tiger55 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvItZ2GS88A

Whats he a Doctor of? Pointy White Hats?

busyliving

FREEDOM!!!!......To Palestine

TheHighRoad

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

Israel, nearly every country in the region wants to wip them off the map so i believe they have a right to defend themselves

/runs

Ah the old chestnut. Lets look at the countries in the region shall we? Syria, want normal relations with Israel and have asked for the Golan heights returned. Egpyt is at peace with Israel, Jordan is at peace with Israel, Turkey is at peace with Israel, Iraq is at peace with Israel, Saudi Arabia while not a fan puts up with Israel. So basically theres Iran. And that gives them the right to kill unarmed Palestinians?


How do people feel about the Irish peacekeeping troops killed as a result of direct or indirect Israeli acts in Lebannon when Israel took slight to brave Irish men trying to do their job?
one example :The Israelis insulted the battalions as Johnnie Walker Irish which infuriated them because Irish troops, whose sobriety has never been in question, refused to retreat before Israel's proxy gunmen in 1980. In the village of At Tiri that year, the Irish went into battle to prevent the South Lebanon Army taking over.They killed one of Israel's Lebanese allies and lost one of their own: Pte Stephen Griffin. I went to his funeral in Galway a few days later, his blue UN beret lying atop his coffin in the breezy seaside churchyard, the rocks and hills looking oddly like the land where he had died 2,500 miles away.In revenge for their own dead, one of Israel's militiamen, Ali Bazi, murdered two Irish soldiers - Pte Smallhorn and Pte Barrett - in an incident that might be regarded as a war crime. But Mr Bazi now lives in safety in the United States

kraggy

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

Israel, nearly every country in the region wants to wip them off the map so i believe they have a right to defend themselves

/runs

"Defending themselves" is stealing land from Palestinians and committing barbaric acts against innocents in the Gaza Strip?

Holding on to land that's not theirs is right?

Good historical summary here from the BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6709173.stm

Irish Fire

alcomoholic wrote: »

Well, which side do you think is in the right? or which team are you on?
Nail your colours to the mast!!
I'm palestine for what it's worth!!

I'm the bus driver......

bnt

Poll needs a third option, along the lines of "they're all nuts". Both sides insist that the same bits of land are holy to them. It's become a rat race to see who can breed the fastest, and the Palestinians are winning at the moment. Domination by procreation: does anyone believe this is going to end well?

kraggy

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

I hear Palestine have signed Messi, so that's Israel fúcked.

The Palestinians have signed Bomber Liston for full forward.

Cú Giobach

LondonIrish90 wrote: »

. Their Jewish ancestors originated from that region and they they have as much right as anyone to live there.

It's not the fact that they are just living there that is the problem, it's that they kicked out the local inhabitants and are now living in their homes (the ones they left standing) and farms, and have pushed the Palestinians into refugee camps and created the open air prisons that are the Gaza Strip and West Bank.

Do you think people are entitled to take back land because their ancestors once lived there in historical times?

Freddie59

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

Israel, nearly every country in the region wants to wip them off the map so i believe they have a right to defend themselves

/runs

Yep. Go Israel. They've tried whipping them a couple of times and in turn became the whipping boys themselves.

holystungun9

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am, stuck in the middle with you.

Freddie59

Cú Giobach wrote: »

It's not the fact that they are just living there that is the problem, it's that they kicked out the local inhabitants and are now living in their homes (the ones they left standing) and farms, and have pushed the Palestinians into refugee camps and created the open air prisons that are the Gaza Strip and West Bank.

Do you think people are entitled to take back land because their ancestors once lived there in historical times?

Hasn't happened in the North.

Caoimhín

Why no option to vote for both/neither?

In my opinion, both sides have valid claims and grievances, it is not a black and white issue, to suggest otherwise is intellectually lazy and displays an ignorance of history and politics.

May I suggest a book called "The Iron Wall" by Avi Shlaim; http://www.amazon.com/Iron-Wall-Israel-Arab-World/dp/0393321126

It is a well written and unbiased history of the conflict.

Cú Giobach

Freddie59 wrote: »

Hasn't happened in the North.

What hasn't happened in the north?

The Aussie

Can i say neither, i would not mind if the world turned their back for another 7 days for round 2 if there was good coverage on tv.

biko

Discussed to death, with poll or not.