Strauss-Kahn was going to end dollar dominance

jackiebaron

Dominique Strauss-Kahn was trying to torpedo the dollar

by Mike Whitney

It's all about perception management. The media is trying to dig up as much dirt as they can on Dominique Strauss-Kahn so they can hang the man before he ever sees the inside of a courthouse. It reminds me of the Terry Schiavo case, where devoted-husband Michael was pegged as an insensitive slimeball for carrying out the explicit wishes of his brain-dead wife. Do you remember how the media conducted their disgraceful 24 hour-a-day Blitzkrieg with the endless coverage of weepy Christian fanatics on the front lawn of the hospital while Hannity, Limbaugh and O' Reilly filled the air waves with their sanctimonious claptrap?
And now you're telling me that that same media is just "doing their job?"
Give me a break.
Whoever wants to nail IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn has really pulled out all the stops. Their agents have been rummaging through diaries, hotel registries, phone records, yearbooks, yada, yada, yada. The UK Telegraph even paid a visit to a high-priced DC knocking shop to get a little dirt from Madame Botox; whatever it takes to make a randy banker look like the South Hill rapist. And they're doing a pretty good job, too. The cops have made sure that the "Great Seducer" always appears handcuffed and dressed in a "pervie" raincoat with 3-days stubble before they parade him in front of the media. On Wednesday--more grist for the mill--they released his mug-shot, an unflattering, deadpan photo that makes him look like Jack-the-Ripper. Was that the intention?
And, that's not the half of it. The Big Money is exhuming every woman he's ever had contact with for the last 30 years hoping they can glean some damning tidbit of information that will convince the doubters that beneath that sophisticated manner and $25,000 suit lurks a closet Bluebeard ready to snap up your daughters and defile your wives. Next thing you know, they'll be trotting out Paula Jones and Tanya Harding claiming they spent a torrid night with the Marquis de Kahn in a trailerpark outside Winamuca.
Where does it stop? Or does it stop? Are we in for another year-long Clinton-Lewinski feeding frenzy where everyday we hear more lurid details about the sexploits of people who don't really interest us at all?
Aren't you at all curious about who's behind this "lynching by media" scam? This is an all-out, no-holds-barred, steel-cage, take-down. The big boys save that kind of action for the worst offenders, that is, for the insiders who have broken "Omerta" or wandered off the reservation. I mean, they locked him up on Riker's Island without bail, for Chrissake. What does that tell you? Even Bernie Madoff was allowed to stay in his $7 million Park Avenue penthouse while he waited for trial, but not Straus-Kahn. Oh, no. He get's the royal treatment, even though he has no criminal record and nothing but the sketchy accusations of a chambermaid against him, he's carted off to the state slammer where he can mingle with hardened criminals while dining on corn flakes and Wonder Bread.
You call this justice?
Can I tell you what this is all about? It's about the dollar. That's right. Strauss-Kahn was mounting an attack against the dollar and now the wrath of the Empire has descended on him like ton-of-bricks. Here's the scoop from the UK Telegraph:
"Dominique Strauss-Kahn, managing director of the International Monetary Fund, has called for a new world currency that would challenge the dominance of the dollar and protect against future financial instability.....
He suggested adding emerging market countries' currencies, such as the yuan, to a basket of currencies that the IMF administers could add stability to the global system....Strauss-Kahn saw a greater role for the IMF's Special Drawing Rights, (SDRs) which is currently composed of the dollar, sterling, euro and yen, over time but said it will take a great deal of international cooperation to make that work." ("International Monetary Fund director Dominique Strauss-Kahn calls for new world currency", UK Telegraph)
So, Strauss-Kahn finds himself in the same crowd as Saddam Hussein and Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, right? You may recall that Saddam switched from dollars to euros about a year before the war. 12 months later Iraq was invaded, Saddam was hanged, and the dollar was restored to power. Gaddafi made a similar mistake when "he initiated a movement to refuse the dollar and the euro, and called on Arab and African nations to use a new currency instead, the gold dinar." ("Libya: All About Oil, or All About Central Banking?" Ellen Brown, Op-Ed News) Libya has since come under attack by US and NATO forces which have armed a motley group of dissidents, malcontents and terrorists to depose Gaddafi and reimpose dollar hegemony.
And now it's Strauss-Kahn's turn to get torn to shreds. And for good reason. After all, DSK actually poses a much greater threat to the dollar than either Saddam or Gaddafi because he's in the perfect position to shape policy and to persuade foreign heads of state that replacing the dollar is in their best interests. And that is precisely what he was doing; badmouthing the buck. Only he was too dense to figure out that the dollar is the US Mafia's mealticket, the main way that shifty banksters and corporate scalawags extort tribute from the poorest people on earth. Strauss-Kahn was rocking the boat, and now he's going to pay.
Here's a clip from CNN Money:
"The International Monetary Fund issued a report Thursday on a possible replacement for the dollar as the world's reserve currency.
The IMF said Special Drawing Rights, or SDRs, could help stabilize the global financial system....SDRs represent potential claims on the currencies of IMF members.....The IMF typically lends countries funds denominated in SDRs. While they are not a tangible currency, some economists argue that SDRs could be used as a less volatile alternative to the U.S. dollar.
"Over time, there may also be a role for the SDR to contribute to a more stable international monetary system," he said.
The goal is to have a reserve asset for central banks that better reflects the global economy since the dollar is vulnerable to swings in the domestic economy and changes in U.S. policy.
In addition to serving as a reserve currency, the IMF also proposed creating SDR-denominated bonds, which could reduce central banks' dependence on U.S. Treasuries. The Fund also suggested that certain assets, such as oil and gold, which are traded in U.S. dollars, could be priced using SDRs." ("IMF discusses dollar alternative", CNN Money)
Wow. So DSK was zeroing in on US Treasuries as well as the dollar? That's the whole shooting match.
So, what type of progress was he making in converting USDs to SDRs? According to Reuters: "The IMF general resources credit outstanding increased to 65.5 billion Special Drawing Rights, or SDRs, ($104 billion) on May 12 from 6.0 billion SDRs at December 2007. The so-called new arrangement to borrow, which came into effect on April 1, increased the IMF's available lending resources to 269 billion SDRs on May 12 from 120 billion SDRs on March 31." (http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/05/17/idINIndia-57083920110517?type=economicNews)
Not a bad start for such an ambitious project. It looks like DSK's dream of dethroning the dollar as the de facto "international currency" was beginning to gain momentum. (Nobel prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz has said that the transition from dollars to SDRs "could be phased in within the next year.") But didn't he know that his actions would anger some very powerful and well-connected people?
Well, if he did; he never let on. In fact, he started mucking around in other stuff, too, like when he intervened on behalf of Irish taxpayers, trying to protect them at the expense of foreign bondholders. That's a big "No no" in banker's world. They keep a list of "people who count", and taxpayers are not on that list. Here's an excerpt from the Irish Times:
"Ireland’s Last Stand began less shambolically than you might expect. The IMF, which believes that lenders should pay for their stupidity before it has to reach into its pocket, presented the Irish with a plan to haircut €30 billion of unguaranteed bonds by two-thirds on average. (Irish finance minister) Lenihan was overjoyed, according to a source who was there, telling the IMF team: “You are Ireland’s salvation.”
The deal was torpedoed from an unexpected direction. At a conference call with the G7 finance ministers, the haircut was vetoed by US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner who, as his payment of $13 billion from government-owned AIG to Goldman Sachs showed, believes that bankers take priority over taxpayers. The only one to speak up for the Irish was UK chancellor George Osborne, but Geithner, as always, got his way. An instructive, if painful, lesson in the extent of US soft power, and in who our friends really are.
The negotiations went downhill from there. On one side was the European Central Bank, unabashedly representing Ireland’s creditors and insisting on full repayment of bank bonds. On the other was the IMF, arguing that Irish taxpayers would be doing well to balance their government’s books, let alone repay the losses of private banks." ("Ireland's future depends on breaking free from bailout", Morgan Kelly, Irish Times)
So, Strauss-Kahn stuck up for Irish taxpayers over the banks, the bondholders, the ECB, and the US Treasury. Naturally, that made him persona non grata among the ruling throng.
And, there's more, too, because Strauss-Kahn's vision was not limited to currency alone, but involved broad structural changes to the IMF itself that would have reversed decades of neoliberal policies. DSK had settled on a new approach to policymaking; one that would abandon the worst elements of globalization and put greater emphasis on social cohesion, cooperation and multilateralism. Here's an excerpt from the speech titled "Human Development and Wealth Distribution" he gave in November 2010:
"....Adam Smith—one of the founders of modern economics—recognized clearly that a poor distribution of wealth could undermine the free market system, noting that: “The disposition to admire, and almost to worship, the rich and the powerful and…neglect persons of poor and mean condition…is the great and most universal cause of the corruption of our moral sentiments.”
This was over 250 years ago. In today’s world, these problems are magnified under the lens of globalization....globalization also had a dark side. Lurking behind it was a large and growing chasm between rich and poor—especially within countries. An inequitable distribution of wealth can wear down the social fabric. More unequal countries have worse social indicators, a poorer human development record, and higher degrees of economic insecurity and anxiety. In too many countries, inequality increased and real wages stagnated—failing to keep up with productivity—over the past few decades. Ominously, inequality in the United States was back at its pre-Great Depression levels on the eve of the crisis....
An immediate task is to end the scourge of unemployment....Progressive taxation can also promote equity through redistribution, and this should be encouraged....“Inequality is corrosive” ....“it rots societies from within…it illustrates and exacerbates the loss of social cohesion…the pathology of the age and the greatest threat to the health of any democracy.” ("Human Development and Wealth Distribution", Dominique Strauss-Kahn, IMF)
Can you believe it? DSK is lecturing bankers about redistribution? That's not what they want to hear. What they want to hear is why ripping off poor people actually makes the world a better place. DSK's speech just shows that he wasn't drinking the Koolaid anymore. He was becoming a nuisance and they needed to get rid of him.
Does that mean he didn't rape the woman who was in his hotel room?
Of course not. He could be guilty. But he deserves a fair trial, and someone's making damn sure he doesn't get one.

CiaranMT

Could you please format the text so that it's a bit clearer?

Talk E

I was able to read it just fine.

jackiebaron wrote: »

The media is trying to dig up as much dirt as they can on Dominique Strauss-Kahn so they can hang the man before he ever sees the inside of a courthouse.

Why do you suppose the media would do this ?

jackiebaron

CiaranMT wrote: »

Could you please format the text so that it's a bit clearer?

Not enough pictures for you?

I trust you can speak, read and write English perfectly.

Why don't you just read it?

The guy was completely fitted up. It's a joke.

As I predicted.....they have just released him and want him under house arrest. They were NEVER going to convict this guy. They just want to smear him and get him out of the way. It's pathetic.

jackiebaron

Talk E wrote: »

I was able to read it just fine.



Why do you suppose the media would do this ?

Talk E, the objective is to have him convicted in the public's eye without even a verdict...or even a trial. He is persona-non-grata now because of his stance against deregulation. He was a dangerous man that would have exposed a lot of Wall Street hucksters. The media portrayed him as some kind of skid-row bum in a pervie rain coat and stubble and in handcuffs when being arraigned. Why was this done? It was done to have millions of people view him as a scumbag. He's already guilty now in so many people's eyes even though not a single shred of evidence has been benched in a trial. The fix is in. The public now think he's a dirty old man. Sh!t, you could simply report now that he has a collection of kiddie porn at his house and the public would believe it and start sending death threats.

The media have done this because that's what they do. They aren't independent. They aren't a free-thinking Fourth Estate anymore. They act the way Murdoch instructs.

Naikon

jackiebaron wrote: »

Not enough pictures for you?

I trust you can speak, read and write English perfectly.

Why don't you just read it?

The guy was completely fitted up. It's a joke.

As I predicted.....they have just released him and want him under house arrest. They were NEVER going to convict this guy. They just want to smear him and get him out of the way. It's pathetic.

Thanks for posting that. Pretty interesting to read.

conscious

The federal reserve want to destroy the value of the dollar by printing so much money, which will cause inflation.

They will eventually get rid of the dollar and bring in a one currency for the US, Canada and Mexico

jackiebaron

Naikon wrote: »

Thanks for posting that. Pretty interesting to read.

People seem to think that this game is more complex than it actually is. I buy something for x and sell it for x+1 and keep doing that and 98% of the world think that I've discovered some complex method that allows me to drive around in a Jag convertible.

Take some dummy from middle-America. Throw the acronyms CDO, MBS, CDS, et al., at him and his eyes will glaze over and he'll say "dude, you're the man. I trust you. Pass the Doritos".

If you've been conditioned to never doubt a guy in a suit then you're always going to be poor.
Ever see that movie "Boiler room" with Vin Diesel and Giovanni Ribissi? Well I actually worked for the company that that movie was based on. It was disgusting. I walked out after 3 months and straight into unemployment. I would have rather collected beer cans than breath the same air as these maggots. My GOD they were foul as they laughed having fleeced a 70 year old widow out of her husband's farm. I almost puked.


And these were small time assholes making maybe a million or two a year.
The real vermin are the ones who have packaged together dodgy mortgages into crap and sold it to domestic and foreign funds and then make sure that taxpayers will pick up the tab when it pukes.

****ing bull****! I don't pay taxes...I've taken care of that and I never will because it doesn't go to schools and roads. I donate to these things...and on a regular basis.

Not a penny I earn goes to a banker or a bomber.

GavRedKing

Good read that article.

But if they wanted him out of the way, why not kill him?

jackiebaron

gavredking wrote: »

Good read that article.

But if they wanted him out of the way, why not kill him?

Well it's harder to cover up an assassination than a smear campaign. The power dons whacked Kennedy for fcuking with their money but there were already enough people who could be blamed for having a finger in his death. Plus if he was whacked, France would immediately demand that the body be released to French coroners who would blow open the whole hit. The US authorities wouldn't be able to conduct a bogus autopsy and then steal part of his brain and fcuk around with all other sorts of evidence. It's safe to assume that Sarkozy is in on it but the French people would smell a rat much more than the Americans if DSK was clipped. They'd start questioning Sarkozy and would be very suspicious that the guy who was tipped to oust him was all of a sudden iced.

Yitzhak Rabin

conscious wrote: »

The federal reserve want to destroy the value of the dollar by printing so much money, which will cause inflation.

They will eventually get rid of the dollar and bring in a one currency for the US, Canada and Mexico

Why on earth would they want that?

The euro is proving to be quite unreliable. The americas region is an even less integrated one than here. It would make no sense for them to have a single currency.

Why would the US relinquish control of printing their own money and have to worry about how interest rates and money supply affects other nations who have much much different economies than their own?

Why on earth would the canadians want to be tied into this when their own currency is doing just fine?

My name is URL

Here's the Guardian article about Strauss-Kahn calling for the US Dollar to be replaced as the world's reserve currency. - http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/feb/10/imf-boss-calls-for-world-currency

It'll be interesting to see if the new head is as supportive of the idea..

Naikon

My name is URL wrote: »

Here's the Guardian article about Strauss-Kahn calling for the US Dollar to be replaced as the world's reserve currency. - http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/feb/10/imf-boss-calls-for-world-currency

It'll be interesting to see if the new head is as supportive of the idea..

Interesting. Make enough of a racket, you will be taken down no matter what the cost.

nyarlothothep

jackiebaron wrote: »

People seem to think that this game is more complex than it actually is. I buy something for x and sell it for x+1 and keep doing that and 98% of the world think that I've discovered some complex method that allows me to drive around in a Jag convertible.

Take some dummy from middle-America. Throw the acronyms CDO, MBS, CDS, et al., at him and his eyes will glaze over and he'll say "dude, you're the man. I trust you. Pass the Doritos".

If you've been conditioned to never doubt a guy in a suit then you're always going to be poor.
Ever see that movie "Boiler room" with Vin Diesel and Giovanni Ribissi? Well I actually worked for the company that that movie was based on. It was disgusting. I walked out after 3 months and straight into unemployment. I would have rather collected beer cans than breath the same air as these maggots. My GOD they were foul as they laughed having fleeced a 70 year old widow out of her husband's farm. I almost puked.


And these were small time assholes making maybe a million or two a year.
The real vermin are the ones who have packaged together dodgy mortgages into crap and sold it to domestic and foreign funds and then make sure that taxpayers will pick up the tab when it pukes.

****ing bull****! I don't pay taxes...I've taken care of that and I never will because it doesn't go to schools and roads. I donate to these things...and on a regular basis.

Not a penny I earn goes to a banker or a bomber.

The only reason these asshats are in power is because most people confuse strength with competence and value charisma over integrity. And they're also apathetic and want a few crumbs of the pie to survive. I do use the term asshats seriously as they lack the intellectual depth and ability to hold stewardship over the world. This is the condition of human society. Its a shame we're in the minority.

Jeboa Safari

jackiebaron wrote: »

Not enough pictures for you?

I trust you can speak, read and write English perfectly.

Why don't you just read it?

Why do you constantly feel the need to attack? It makes it easier to read if its formatted, you could have at least provided a link to the information as well, especially if you won't just space out the paragraphs. It might be easier to convince people theres something to your argument if you lay the information out more legibly instead of throwing around insults.

For the record here's a better laid out version:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28135.htm

myhorse

Interesting article to say the least. The Irish connection was very very interesting

"Ireland’s Last Stand began less shambolically than you might expect. The IMF, which believes that lenders should pay for their stupidity before it has to reach into its pocket, presented the Irish with a plan to haircut €30 billion of unguaranteed bonds by two-thirds on average. (Irish finance minister) Lenihan was overjoyed, according to a source who was there, telling the IMF team: “You are Ireland’s salvation.”

The deal was torpedoed from an unexpected direction. At a conference call with the G7 finance ministers, the haircut was vetoed by US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner who, as his payment of $13 billion from government-owned AIG to Goldman Sachs showed, believes that bankers take priority over taxpayers. The only one to speak up for the Irish was UK chancellor George Osborne, but Geithner, as always, got his way. An instructive, if painful, lesson in the extent of US soft power, and in who our friends really are.

That was the part I could never figure out. How the bondholders (mainly big banks or those with interests in the same) never got burned. This explains it to me.

There was also a story on the go regarding the night that the bank bailout was put in place. It was in regards to two major players (Irish but non government) who were brought in to advise. One certainly linked to FF, both to the international money markets and had ,I guess, a vested interest in the banks not collapsing over the next 48 hours.

I would love to know what went on that night and what deals were done.

Jonny7

Maybe he just raped the maid and fled afterwards.

Do you admit there might be a possibility that happened?

I am not having a go (just yet) but am curious of the response.

jd007

jackiebaron wrote: »

Does that mean he didn't rape the woman who was in his hotel room?
Of course not. He could be guilty. But he deserves a fair trial, and someone's making damn sure he doesn't get one.

Jonny7 wrote: »

Maybe he just raped the maid and fled afterwards.

Do you admit there might be a possibility that happened?

I am not having a go (just yet) but am curious of the response.

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Jonny7

jd007 wrote: »

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Yikes missed that..

What are the criteria to ensure he gets a fair trial?

aftermn

I'm not really convinced about the conspiracy notion. I do think, however that his treatment after arrest is at least unusual. Bail is normally only withheld where there is a flight risk. An ordinary Joe might be able to run and hide, could an international figure like DSK?
Also his parading for the camera's seems extreme. An Ohio university study gives statistics on rape in the US. I states that there are 1872 rapes per day. How many accused did you see on the news that night, cuffed and dishevelled?
Can't have it both ways really. Either he is an international figure who will attract extra media attention, making flight impossible, or he is not.

loldog

Vladimir Putin suspects there is some conspiracy:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/dominique-strauss-kahn/8544909/Vladimir-Putin-hints-at-Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-conspiracy.html

As a former KGB man he would be familiar with a lot of dodgy ops.

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Jonny7

loldog wrote: »

Vladimir Putin suspects there is some conspiracy:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/dominique-strauss-kahn/8544909/Vladimir-Putin-hints-at-Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-conspiracy.html

As a former KGB man he would be familiar with a lot of dodgy ops.

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Go to youtube, type in anything like strauss khan conspiracy, or anything to do with Libya, you'll see lots of videos by "Russia Today"

You guys are conspiracy theorists, I know this is boring because it doesn't involve US/UK/Israel - but you do the work, its fairly obvious

Expect more suave English speaking "news" outlets soon from such places as Iran, China, and Venezuela

studiorat

Jonny7 wrote: »

Expect more suave English speaking "news" outlets soon from such places as Iran, China, and Venezuela

Don't forget Press TV.

http://thepeoplescube.com/current-truth/life-imitates-the-cube-iran-s-mullahs-photoshop-a-missile-t2124.html

WakeUp

Jonny7 wrote: »

Go to youtube, type in anything like strauss khan conspiracy, or anything to do with Libya, you'll see lots of videos by "Russia Today"

What has that go to do with an article in the Telegraph? Also Libya has nothing to do with this thread Im at a loss as to why you would mention it whilst making your point.

You guys are conspiracy theorists, I know this is boring because it doesn't involve US/UK/Israel - but you do the work, its fairly obvious

What's fairly obvious?...

Expect more suave English speaking "news" outlets soon from such places as Iran, China, and Venezuela

Do you mean articles as opposed to outlets?...

studiorat

loldog wrote: »

conspiracy.html[/url]

As a former KGB man he would be familiar with a lot of dodgy ops.

That's what I was thinking.

Former IMF managing director Dominique Strauss-Kahn, accused of rape and released on bail in New-York, claims that he became the target of a plot organized by Russian PM Vladimir Putin.

The former world finance chief believes that Russia and France have hatched the whole story to get him fired from the International Monetary Fund to stop him running for the French presidency.

‘He told me this when we spoke on the phone in Paris on April 29… He said the Russians and notably Putin had allied themselves with France to try to have him fired from the IMF, to stop him running for the presidency.”

http://www.russiandogs.net/strauss-kahn-accuses-putin-of-conspiracy.html

WakeUp

studiorat wrote: »

That's what I was thinking.

http://www.russiandogs.net/strauss-kahn-accuses-putin-of-conspiracy.html

Interesting, the plot thickens. My own opinion I think he did do something untoward if it goes to trial maybe all the details will come out and the hear say can be addressed.

Jonny7

WakeUp wrote: »

What has that go to do with an article in the Telegraph? Also Libya has nothing to do with this thread Im at a loss as to why you would mention it whilst making your point.

At this stage "Vladimir Putin hints at.." carries about as much water as the line "Ahmadinejad hints at.."

They latch onto every single anti-Western conspiracy theory, next day Russia Today,Press TV, etc are spamming it all over youtube

I'm getting more interested in the Strauss Khan story, but reading anything that "Putin hints at.." is just a waste of time if you ask me

Duke Leonal Felmet

Dominique Strauss-Kahn, managing director of the International Monetary Fund, has called for a new world currency that would challenge the dominance of the dollar and protect against future financial instability.....

He was also running for the presidency of France. Was he planning to hold both positions while he carried out his evil plan?

:snooze:

WakeUp

Jonny7 wrote: »

At this stage "Vladimir Putin hints at.." carries about as much water as the line "Ahmadinejad hints at.."

Or the line Bush hints at, Blair hints at, Obama hints at, insert-leader hints at, the same could be said for any of them carrying water. The article he posted contains comments attributed to a leader with a direct reference to the thread. Unlike your mentioning of Libya for example.

They latch onto every single anti-Western conspiracy theory, next day Russia Today,Press TV, etc are spamming it all over youtube

Ok, that sounds like a mini-rant to me. Keep in mind the article posted which seems to have triggered your rant was from a British daily mainstream newspaper, The Telegraph.

I'm getting more interested in the Strauss Khan story, but reading anything that "Putin hints at.." is just a waste of time if you ask me

Well thats fair enough youre entitled to think what you like. Putins comments be they genuine, true or false are still relevant to the thread as he makes specific reference to the topic in hand. Just another part of the overall story whatever the truth may be.

Jonny7

WakeUp wrote: »

Or the line Bush hints at, Blair hints at, Obama hints at, insert-leader hints at, the same could be said for any of them carrying water. The article he posted contains comments attributed to a leader with a direct reference to the thread. Unlike your mentioning of Libya for example.

Putin's obvious agenda is to push conspiracy theories

If his word is just the same as Obama, Bush and Blair then I am surprised to see his "hints" taken seriously in this of all places!

I said type Strauss Khan into youtube and you get the conspiracy theory stamp of approval immediately from Russia Today, like any recent events that can malign the West e.g. Libya, anything.

Well thats fair enough youre entitled to think what you like. Putins comments be they genuine, true or false are still relevant to the thread as he makes specific reference to the topic in hand. Just another part of the overall story whatever the truth may be.

Putin used to stay away from the conspiracy theories and let Chavez and Ahmadinejad do all the crazy talking, but more and more recently he's stepping over to the dark side.

Brown Bomber

Jonny7 wrote: »

Go to youtube, type in anything like strauss khan conspiracy, or anything to do with Libya, you'll see lots of videos by "Russia Today"

Are you on commission for mentioning Russia Today on non-related topics?

Jonny7 wrote: »

You guys are conspiracy theorists, I know this is boring because it doesn't involve US/UK/Israel - but you do the work, its fairly obvious

Expect more suave English speaking "news" outlets soon from such places as Iran, China, and Venezuela

Hey Jonny, check this out http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055880932&page=10

It's a conspiracy involving Russia and Putin :eek: and was posted here