stove with backboiler or not.

roscahill98

Hi all,

looking for information on putting in a stove with a backboiler. I have a house with a conventional fireplace with a backboiler system that is 25 years old. Also have a problem with the updraft from the chimney sucking all the cold air under the sitting room door which would cut the ankles off ya in the winter. I know a stove would solve the draft but should I get one with a backboiler or not. Are they problematic or not. Any suggestions would be great.

thanks
Gail

Stove Fan

roscahill98 wrote: »

Hi all,

looking for information on putting in a stove with a backboiler. I have a house with a conventional fireplace with a backboiler system that is 25 years old. Also have a problem with the updraft from the chimney sucking all the cold air under the sitting room door which would cut the ankles off ya in the winter. I know a stove would solve the draft but should I get one with a backboiler or not. Are they problematic or not. Any suggestions would be great.

thanks
Gail

As you already have the plumbing for a back boiler already then definately. I take it the backboiler is still all connected up and working? Have you central heating installed? If yes, you must have some serious cold drafts:eek:. Draft proofing needed:)
We have a multifuel stove purchased from the UK for £740.00 with 8kw back boiler and around 3kw to room that heats all of our extended 2 bed detatched bungalow. We don't have any other boiler, just the stove with wraparound boiler or integral as stove manufacturers say. They are very very reliable as they have no complicated electronics to go wrong. I love them for their simplicity. The only thing you need to do is sweep the chimney annually or more often with wood and about every 3 years or when needed is to replace the door rope seals. In the stoves installation instruction they have a maintenance section for rope, firebrick and stove glass replacement. I always look for a stove with reasonably priced spares like glass firebricks etc.

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bob5666

has to be with back boiler you will regret if you dont fit it, just size it correctly for room , also with back boiler you have another option for heating hot water and central heating incase your boiler breaks down or when oil or gas gets too expensive

Jsf

Since you have the pipe work in place it would be crazy not to use it, unless you are not a fire person in which case a non boiler one would be more suitable as will take alot less fuel but with only heat the one room. A run of the mill 20kw stove will heat a 3 semi at its leisure with not much fuel either. There is a large range of stoves in this range and prices vary from €1150-€2000. Cheaper ones are available but be careful as you will want this to last as long as your back boiler did and cheaper stoves tend to come a go with no parts back up in years to come.

DoneDL

Definitely go for the boiler version.

BrianMc1980

roscahill98 wrote: »

Hi all,

looking for information on putting in a stove with a backboiler. I have a house with a conventional fireplace with a backboiler system that is 25 years old. Also have a problem with the updraft from the chimney sucking all the cold air under the sitting room door which would cut the ankles off ya in the winter. I know a stove would solve the draft but should I get one with a backboiler or not. Are they problematic or not. Any suggestions would be great.

thanks
Gail

Hi Gail, I am a believer in boiler stoves, you might as well be heating something else other than just the room but if it is a small room a central heating stove (10 rads +) will have a big presence in the room so may not suit you. Be careful when looking for a stove to suit you as shops will quote an amount of rads that a stove is capable of doing but will be referring to single panels so count your doubles as 2 rads when sizing
Brian

rocketman2010

Hi guys,

I know this thread hasn't been active for a while but it is exactly the question I need to find out....Backboiler or not?
I am doing a complete renovation of midterraced 3 bed house circa 1000sq ft. Heating will be completely done from new. I am putting in oil central heating with the heatmiser thermostat system working off rads.
I still havent decided what to put in living room. I know I wont have open fire.
The guy in the shop I visited recommended the Boru 600 glass inset stove with boiler option. I understand the calulating of btu and kw for radiators etc. My question is should I go for backboiler option or not?
My architect thinks not with size of house, size of living room(small 12ft x 10ft) and heatmiser system.
I just can't see disadvantages of putting in backboiler?
Plus there would be a fire down most nights (depending on weather) so would it not make sense to put in backboiler to complement the och and save some money?

Thanks, Rocketman

cranefly

hey rocketman, if you can afford to put an inset boiler stove in the living room go for it, we use to have an open fire with backboiler for over 20 years also oil central heating, we were always going to have an open fire in the front room anyway so when building we put in the backboiler as well, heated all the water in the hot press we needed for baths etc, it would heat the rads as well if you had a good supply of coal, it would cost too much to heat all the rads 13 of them with coal every night so only heated front room, we only put the oil on when it was really cold ie if the fridge was warmer, just could not afford to heat the whole house for any long period of time, then we discovered inset boiler stoves that can fit into a regular fireplace opening 16 inch, a neighbour had one fitted, went to have a look at it working and was amazed it looked so well, i always thought they were big yokes that would stand out to far in the room, either that or re do the chimney that would cost way to much, so put the idea of a stove out of my head, why they do not advertise these stoves i do not know, after alot of searching it came down to 2 types of stove a stratford ecoboiler or an esse 350gs both had a good boiler that would heat 10 or so rads, went with the lancs built esse, had it in now a couple of months now, what an amazing piece of equipment, heats all the rads in around an hour and a half, smokeless coal is best keeps the glass from darkening, use about the same amount of coal as the open fire with a few extra peat briquettes, in the winter might need a bit more coal but it heats the whole house instead of only the front room, so not to bad, not had the oil on so far with the stove in, cost wise it was expensive 2400 euro bought and fitted pipe work already in fireplace from old backboiler, so long as it keeps working and hopefully as long as old backboiler then it will have been a good buy, all the reviews i have read about the esse 350 gs are great ones, not heard anyone with a problem about this type of stove, rocketman i would say go for it with the inset boiler option, in a three bed terrace with an esse the oil could be a back up to the stove, also get a cowl for the chimney pot stops the rain getting in if you burn logs, stops the creosote build up i think.