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claas 46 rolland

  • 17-05-2011 04:42PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭


    What would be maximum output per hour that you would get out of this bailer lads? Standard pick up and twine? What hp would I need also for this on hay and silage. Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Minky 123 wrote: »
    What would be maximum output per hour that you would get out of this bailer lads? Standard pick up and twine? What hp would I need also for this on hay and silage. Thanks

    Max output, on twine is a good bit less than with net, I'd guess about 20 bales an hour for silage bales with standard pick up. Not the quickest baler in the world, but pretty bullet proof.

    HP requirement is low enough 90HP will do it with comfort.

    Standard pickup in my opinion makes better bales, no slopey bales in sight from rows made by standard PZ type Haybob.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭poor farmer


    emaherx wrote: »
    Max output, on twine is a good bit less than with net, I'd guess about 20 bales an hour for silage bales with standard pick up. Not the quickest baler in the world, but pretty bullet proof.

    HP requirement is low enough 90HP will do it with comfort.

    Standard pickup in my opinion makes better bales, no slopey bales in sight from rows made by standard PZ type Haybob.


    +1 maybe 25 in perfect conditions ,big fields, long straight rows ,no hills


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭Red Sheds


    Used one for a good few years on a 165, it managed it no problem, would generally use third low, maybe first sometimes in lighter grass. 17 - 20 per hour was a good output with the 165. They made a great solid silage bale.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭pajero12


    emaherx wrote: »
    Max output, on twine is a good bit less than with net, I'd guess about 20 bales an hour for silage bales with standard pick up. Not the quickest baler in the world, but pretty bullet proof.

    HP requirement is low enough 90HP will do it with comfort.

    Standard pickup in my opinion makes better bales, no slopey bales in sight from rows made by standard PZ type Haybob.

    Agree with everything above apart from this... A wide pick up and wide rows make way better bales.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭emaherx


    pajero12 wrote: »
    Agree with everything above apart from this... A wide pick up and wide rows make way better bales.

    I was referring to the use of standard haybob, which is usually the machine of choice for someone with this type of baler.

    Before we bought our 46 we used to row up with a hay bob for the contractors, who would have used large pickups and it always led to lob sided bales.

    larger pickup requires is better with larger grass theather.

    Class 46 with PZ haybob makes absolute bullets of bales. (no need to weave through the rows)
    Red Sheds wrote:
    Used one for a good few years on a 165, it managed it no problem, would generally use third low, maybe first sometimes in lighter grass. 17 - 20 per hour was a good output with the 165. They made a great solid silage bale.

    165 :eek:. for silage. :eek: poor tractor :D.
    OP I would recommend something larger for comfort. I use a 390T and a 698T, both run it easily, have used a 390 in the past also.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭marlyman


    i used my Mf 290 on this baler. with the knives up and on a hill it used to kill it though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭emaherx


    marlyman wrote: »
    i used my Mf 290 on this baler. with the knives up and on a hill it used to kill it though


    Are you sure that wasn't a 46 Rotocut as apossed to a Rollant?
    As far as I'm aware (could be very wrong) there is no chopper on any of the Rollants. A 46 Rotocut would need more Horses to drive the chopper.

    Again I'd deffinetly recommend 90HP for the 46 Rollant. MF 290/390 is only 80HP (but should be ok in most conditions). The 390T and 698T are both 93HP and do all of our baling with out any hassle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    :D I couldn't resist - came across this one on donedeal earlier:

    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/machinery/2160451
    emaherx wrote: »
    Are you sure that wasn't a 46 Rotocut as apossed to a Rollant?
    As far as I'm aware (could be very wrong) there is no chopper on any of the Rollants. A 46 Rotocut would need more Horses to drive the chopper.

    Again I'd deffinetly recommend 90HP for the 46 Rollant. MF 290/390 is only 80HP (but should be ok in most conditions). The 390T and 698T are both 93HP and do all of our baling with out any hassle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭emaherx


    reilig wrote: »
    :D I couldn't resist - came across this one on donedeal earlier:

    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/machinery/2160451


    I stand corrected. :o

    that one is a "Rollant Rotocut", maybe later models droped the Rollant from the name. I have definetly seen ones labeled Rotocut only.

    OK, for the OP if the baler you are looking at has a chopper "Rotocut" model, with or without Rollant written on it add about 10HP.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭pajero12


    emaherx wrote: »
    I was referring to the use of standard haybob, which is usually the machine of choice for someone with this type of baler.

    Before we bought our 46 we used to row up with a hay bob for the contractors, who would have used large pickups and it always led to lob sided bales.

    larger pickup requires is better with larger grass theather.

    Class 46 with PZ haybob makes absolute bullets of bales. (no need to weave through the rows)



    165 :eek:. for silage. :eek: poor tractor :D.
    OP I would recommend something larger for comfort. I use a 390T and a 698T, both run it easily, have used a 390 in the past also.
    As was I, We row with a standard pz, Set the gates to 2 metres, Just the width of the pickup. No Barrells of bales around here :)


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