Crush Gate

haybob

Suggestions on the best one would be much appreciated.

Have an old hand made one in need of replacement fierce simple and effective but shook, have a cashels semi automatic that I'm not overly impressed with and really wouldn’t put another one in

towzer2010

Hi Haybob

I've a semi automatic one and I agree with you. Myself and the AI man spent ages trying to get a lively lim cow into it this evening. I think the old standard ones are easier used.

Did you see the one the farmer in Mayo had in last weeks journal (i think). He imported it from wales. Cost around £4500. Serious yoke. Here is a a link to it

http://www.starkeng.com.au/cattle/exot.html

vanderbadger

the trouble with the semi automatic ones is that you will usually catch the animal the first time but they wont fall for it the next time, cows get cute very quick

reilig

We have 3 nugent semi-automatic gates in crushes. We find them a God Sent!! Used in conjunction with an anti-backing bar, you will have no problem getting cows through it. It is important to keep your gate well greased and the springs tensioned. But compared to the old days with a manual crush, the semi-automatic crush in childsplay.

(I'm in the process of making a head scoop for it)

here's links to the gate and anti backing:

http://www.nugentengineering.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=50&Itemid=306

http://barrettengineering.ie/?p=101

JohnBoy

Something to consider for your head scoop is that it has some form of release mechanism that will work with a load on it.

ie if a cow goes down in the crush, would you be able to release the scoop with her weight on it.

reilig

JohnBoy wrote: »

Something to consider for your head scoop is that it has some form of release mechanism that will work with a load on it.

ie if a cow goes down in the crush, would you be able to release the scoop with her weight on it.

Any ones that I have seen have a levered bolt and ratchet set up to allow for an easy release. I plan on doing the same.

Also, it would be just a case of releasing the crush gate to allow her to fall backwards if she went down - she wouldn't be stuck on the scoop

haybob

I'm just not that keen on he cashels, I'll root out some lad with a nugent and have look at it, the bar in the wall will do me fine as regard anti backing

spotted this when i was searcing the internet
http://www.colemanengineering.ie/FarmersJournalArticle2.shtml

reilig wrote: »

We have 3 nugent semi-automatic gates in crushes. We find them a God Sent!! Used in conjunction with an anti-backing bar, you will have no problem getting cows through it. It is important to keep your gate well greased and the springs tensioned. But compared to the old days with a manual crush, the semi-automatic crush in childsplay.

(I'm in the process of making a head scoop for it)

here's links to the gate and anti backing:

http://www.nugentengineering.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=50&Itemid=306

http://barrettengineering.ie/?p=101

reilig

haybob wrote: »

spotted this when i was searcing the internet
http://www.colemanengineering.ie/FarmersJournalArticle2.shtml

Its a serious set up isn't it?
We discussed it on here when it was published in the IFJ.
Think his whole yard and crush set up came to in the region of €30k inc the concrete apron!!

PMU

haybob wrote: »

I'm just not that keen on he cashels, I'll root out some lad with a nugent and have look at it, the bar in the wall will do me fine as regard anti backing

spotted this when i was searcing the internet
http://www.colemanengineering.ie/FarmersJournalArticle2.shtml

temple grandin design,her biopic is on sky adlantic these days

pakalasa

Temple Grandin - that's what I thought when I saw that design first.
Surprising they don't use more of her designs in marts. It would help speed up things big time.

wallycool

Would not mind having 1 of these.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWjJ0xOeP6M
Its always hard to get the head of the beast into my crush gate

LostCovey

pakalasa wrote: »

Temple Grandin - that's what I thought when I saw that design first.
Surprising they don't use more of her designs in marts. It would help speed up things big time.

Fascinating & inspiring woman - see Horizon documentary about here here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46ycu3JFRrA

LostCovey

pakalasa

It seems like nonsense until you see it work in practice.
I have a chute built along the side of a wall with a small collection yard. The cattle go into it no problem. I built another chute since in the corner of a filed with all tubular bars, no walls. For the life of me I cant get them to go up the chute. They'll stand at the back but they just can't see it. There isnt enough visual contrast there or something. I must sheet down the outside bars and try it.

LostCovey

pakalasa wrote: »

I must sheet down the outside bars and try it.

I think that will work, but maybe try it with scrap ply, or tarpaulin & cable ties before you go to the expense and work of sheeting it.

LC

Muckit

Seen loads of those vids on Youtube (re. T.G. theories etc.) They are common place on US feedlots where she's better known.

Here's the youtube link to that Irish Handling system.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo6u4eXAJBo

There's another good vid of an english lads setup based loosely on the same principles. Can't find the link now, typical!

If things done right, you shouldn't have to be in the same pen as the cattle, nor do you need to touch them or use a stick. Most would just raise a flag (plastic fert bag secured to a handle) to move cattle on.

caseman

haybob wrote: »

Suggestions on the best one would be much appreciated.

Have an old hand made one in need of replacement fierce simple and effective but shook, have a cashels semi automatic that I'm not overly impressed with and really wouldn’t put another one in

You could spend a few euro an the old one.If its doing the job why change it money in your pocket.

Muckit

found link I was talking about in post above

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-JbOqOx7dU&feature=related

Nice setup. No reason why a lad couldn't incorporate a few ideas on a smaller scale. Notice how easy the cattle run up the chute