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Question on Tipper with cracked chassis.

  • 13-05-2011 7:57pm
    #1
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi all maybe Slidey can answer this.

    A mate with a tipper truck was turning in a tight spot today and heard a bang at the rear of the truck. When he looked at the truck the chassis cracked at the rear just near the bogie.

    Would his comprehensive insurance cover this. He rang them to notify them as he wont try and weld until they give his an answer...


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  • #2
    PanhardPL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭PanhardPL


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    Hi all maybe Slidey can answer this.

    A mate with a tipper truck was turning in a tight spot today and heard a bang at the rear of the truck. When he looked at the truck the chassis cracked at the rear just near the bogie.

    Would his comprehensive insurance cover this. He rang them to notify them as he wont try and weld until they give his an answer...

    No way would Insurance cover such a breakage as its down to normal wear and tear.


  • #3
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    PanhardPL wrote: »
    No way would Insurance cover such a breakage as its down to normal wear and tear.

    I know but surly a chassis isnt a normal wear and tear item???


  • #4
    Slidey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭Slidey


    What make of truck and configuration?

    It would be quite rare for a tipper to break a chassis. Hinos sometimes cracked the subframe between the bogies.

    A crack isn't the end of the line for a truck. Properly welded and plated and it should be fine


  • #5
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    Slidey wrote: »
    What make of truck and configuration?

    It would be quite rare for a tipper to break a chassis. Hinos sometimes cracked the subframe between the bogies.

    A crack isn't the end of the line for a truck. Properly welded and plated and it should be fine

    Its a Hino 700 8x4. Its between the Bogies allrite. He dont think it can be plated there with all the chassis bolts.


  • #6
    Slidey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭Slidey


    Is it the main chassis that is broken or the subframe that carries the bogie?

    A 700 can't be that old, has it much work done? Maybe get on to Harris, you never know, he might give out a new truck, he has plenty of them up there!


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  • #7
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    Slidey wrote: »
    Is it the main chassis that is broken or the subframe that carries the bogie?

    A 700 can't be that old, has it much work done? Maybe get on to Harris, you never know, he might give out a new truck, he has plenty of them up there!

    Its the Main Chassis. I will try and get a pic tomorrow. Its a 06 with 430k on it. The crack is half way down the chassis beam. I cant see how you could plate it with the pressure in that area.

    He reackons insurance will cover it..


  • #8
    Slidey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭Slidey


    If insurance covers it what they will mostly likely do is give him a repossessed lorry and take his own. Thats what I heard they are at if your wagon with HP burns in middle of the night.

    I'm away for a couple of days but will check for a pic if I get a chance before I am home.


  • #9
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    Slidey wrote: »
    If insurance covers it what they will mostly likely do is give him a repossessed lorry and take his own. Thats what I heard they are at if your wagon with HP burns in middle of the night.

    I'm away for a couple of days but will check for a pic if I get a chance before I am home.

    True but trucks are gone very scarce of late. They are making big bucks again with all the exporting..


  • #10
    Fishtits
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭Fishtits


    I can't see insurance covering this TBH...

    A Chassis crack mid bogeys is very unusual?

    Any heavys I've been involved with publish chassis repair patch details, usually involving 45 degree ended welded patches etc.

    Keep us posted.


  • #11
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    Here are the pics...

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    006.jpg

    Its bad enough I reckon.


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  • #12
    Solnskaya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Solnskaya


    If ins. won't cover it, drill the two ends of the cracks all the way through with a 5mm bit, grind out the crack into a deep V and fire in a good bead of weld, 4 or more passes. Grind it semi-flat and plate over the top with a narrow strip of hardox or similar, welded everywhere a rod can get-I've welded some chassis and lift trucks in areas under serious pressure and most have held up well. Some just won't, but they are a minority. Get a good welder to do it and use stick not mig, stick burns hotter and just seems to get a better grip-if you can get to the back, even if it involves major stripping out, do so. Or not, just my tuppence of what I would do. Low Hydrogen rods with a fast freeze would also help, as would a dc welder. Also, that cracks not too new either, judging by the oxidisation.


  • #13
    bren11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭bren11


    Crack seems to be next to rubber pad under body. Is there many of these pads or is this the next one to the hinge. This point may be taking a lot of the load.
    You may be better off with a sub chassis after repair. Only thing is it will add to unladen weight and height, but may be necessary with our bad roads and going off road and laden in quarries.


  • #14
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    bren11 wrote: »
    Crack seems to be next to rubber pad under body. Is there many of these pads or is this the next one to the hinge. This point may be taking a lot of the load.
    You may be better off with a sub chassis after repair. Only thing is it will add to unladen weight and height, but may be necessary with our bad roads and going off road and laden in quarries.

    Insurance wouldnt cover it for him. I agree on the sub chassis but the body would have to be changed then. There is a good few pads and incidentily enough the very last one was missing. All the rivets on top of the chassis were lose and some missing.


  • #15
    FIA123
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭FIA123


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    Hi all maybe Slidey can answer this.

    A mate with a tipper truck was turning in a tight spot today and heard a bang at the rear of the truck. When he looked at the truck the chassis cracked at the rear just near the bogie.

    Would his comprehensive insurance cover this. He rang them to notify them as he wont try and weld until they give his an answer...

    Hi Corkie, it is unlikely that the insurance will cover this, however I am a Forensic Engineer and I have come across this before, Has the body been adapted in any way?. If you would like any advice on it, contact me by reply.


  • #16
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    FIA123 wrote: »
    Hi Corkie, it is unlikely that the insurance will cover this, however I am a Forensic Engineer and I have come across this before, Has the body been adapted in any way?. If you would like any advice on it, contact me by reply.

    Thanks it was fixed a few months ago. Insurance didnt cover it though.


  • #17
    FIA123
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭FIA123


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    Thanks it was fixed a few months ago. Insurance didnt cover it though.

    Thanks for your reply, I think it would be very beneficial for you to contact me, regarding this case. Let me know by reply, and we'll arrange something. (No Cost) Regards


  • #18
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    FIA123 wrote: »
    Thanks for your reply, I think it would be very beneficial for you to contact me, regarding this case. Let me know by reply, and we'll arrange something. (No Cost) Regards

    It wasnt mine so I am grand.


  • #19
    _Conrad_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭_Conrad_


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    It wasnt mine so I am grand.


    That person seems quite odd eh? rather keen on you making contact urgently :rolleyes:


  • #20
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    _Conrad_ wrote: »
    That person seems quite odd eh? rather keen on you making contact urgently :rolleyes:

    Plus ten billion would be a understatment boss..:D


  • #21
    Solnskaya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Solnskaya


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    Plus ten billion would be a understatment boss..:D
    maybe he's a tipper ambulance chaser?


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