Work in private/public schools- Differences

Wezzad

As above.

I am familiar with the settings in a public school. Can anyone advise on differences between public & private as regards wages, work ethic etc.

TIA

Wez

gaeilgegrinds1

Have done both. You get paid what the decide in private schools. Differing hours too.

rainbowtrout

That's if you're a privately paid teacher though isn't it? Some teachers are paid by the Department in private schools and therefore have the same wages and conditions of pension, increments etc as teachers in public schools.

gaeilgegrinds1

I don't really know. I worked in a private school and was offered no increments or anything like it, an hourly rate lower than the standard one too.

implausible

gaeilgegrinds1 wrote: »

I don't really know. I worked in a private school and was offered no increments or anything like it, an hourly rate lower than the standard one too.

You must have been working 'private' hours. Teachers who have contracts with the DEIS are entitled to proper rates of pay and increments.

Fuinseog

Wezzad wrote: »

As above.

I am familiar with the settings in a public school. Can anyone advise on differences between public & private as regards wages, work ethic etc.

TIA

Wez

it depends on the private school. Some are very academic, some concentrate on rugby.
extra curricular activities are taken very seriously and you might have to do sports on a Saturday or Sunday, but you get an allowance.

As with 'normal' school you can be dept paid or school paid.

work ethic varies from school to school. Parents can be both demanding and respectful.

In my experience there are fewer discipline problems in private schools.

evolving_doors

Just to clear something up..

A private school is a 'grind school' i.e. no state funding as it's a private enterprise.. a la "The i*s*it*te of Education" ...usually do only 5th and 6th year,,no uniform/no extra curicular stuff etc..

A fee paying school is part funded by the state and part funded by fees from parents.

Generally if 'fee paying schools' are of a good nature they put 'school' paid teachers on the same increment as teachers who are paid by the dept. in the same school.
I think this had to do with a case a few years back where a 'privately paid' teacher took a case against the 'fee paying' school because he was being paid less than his colleagues who were dept. paid. I think it came under "less favourable treatment" in the labour court. he won the case and thus schools were required to pay every body the same.

However in 2010 this was over turned (see irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0721/1224275145906.html) so that the schools could pay what ever they wanted as it was a private arrangement between the school and the teacher..
In another article I read that if you wanted to work 'privately' paid in a fee paying school you did so out of 'vocation' so therefore you accepted less favourable treatment (cant find the article for that at the mo..).. sounds daft to me..

Another funny thing that some people may need to know (esp. if you are privately paid)..{from the same irish times article above }

In her judgment yesterday, Ms Justice Dunne said .....[shortened by me]...The qualifications of a department-paid teacher are determined by a teaching council, while such qualifications are not necessary for private teachers.


Anyway as a crass generalisation,, as the motivation to do well is pretty high on students parts then the discipline problems seem to be a lot less..
Teachers have a high degree of expectation (and parents too) that all of their students will do well..