Would you harm a child?

Agonist

People are understandably pissed off about what happened to Maddie but there are plenty of parents out there who risk their childrens' health and happiness.

Why the hell do they do this? Wtf is wrong with them? Seriously, someone explain it to me.

From The Irish Times today

Breast-fed babies grow into better behaved and more emotionally stable children than those that are bottle fed, a study has shown.
Five-year-olds who had been breast-fed were almost a third less likely to suffer behavioural problems severe enough to disrupt family life.
Those reared on bottled milk formula tended to display more troublesome traits such as neediness, anxiety, hyperactivity or lying and stealing.
The link between breastfeeding and better behaviour could be explained by fatty acids in mother’s milk or bonding between child and parent, say scientists.
Researchers analysed data from a survey of around 10,000 infants born in the UK over a 12-month period between 2000 and 2001.
In total, 29 per cent of children born after a full-term pregnancy, and 21 per cent of those born prematurely, were breast fed for at least four months.
Parents were asked to complete Strength and Difficulties Questionnaires (SDQs) designed to assess the behaviour of their children via a scoring system.
The results showed that 16 per cent of formula-fed children and 6 per cent of breast-fed children were given abnormal scores indicating behavioural problems.
For full-term babies, the pattern persisted after taking account of influences such as social and economic background and parental factors.
The evidence for a link between breastfeeding and fewer behavioural problems in premature children was unclear.
Writing in the journal Archives of Disease in Childhood , Dr Maria Quigley from Oxford University and colleagues concluded: “Our findings suggest that longer duration of breastfeeding (at all or exclusively) is associated with having
fewer parent-rated behavioural problems in term children.” Two likely explanations were given for the results.
One was that breast milk contains long chain polyunsaturated fatty acids and other chemicals that aid brain development. However, it was probable that the children in the study were fed baby formula supplemented by essential fatty acids, said the researchers.
The other theory was that breastfeeding leads to more interaction and bonding between mother and child which may affect learned behaviour.
Commenting on the findings, clinical psychologist Professor Peter Kinderman, from the University of Liverpool, said: “I suspect it may be a combination of both mechanisms, but I also suspect that maternal attachment may be more important.
“Research into maternal bonding - including research here at the University of Liverpool - shows that mother rats who interact well with their offspring, by licking and grooming them, moderate the baby rats’ stress response (even affecting mechanisms involving the stress hormone, cortisol, which has a role in development and behaviour).
“The human version of grooming may include behaviours such as breastfeeding and this may be an important feature of bonding between mother and child.
Positive bonding between parent and child is known to be fantastically helpful for development.” Janet Fyle, from the Royal College of Midwives, said: “The weight of evidence about the benefits of breastfeeding is well established and this is a good study which adds to the evidence.
“However, it is vital that women get the help, advice and support from their midwives, particularly once they have gone home, because this is when breastfeeding rates fall.
“We also know that many of the mothers who are motivated to breastfeed tend to be better educated and spend more time socialising or engaged in interactions with their children. We should therefore not underestimate the role of parenting in the emotional and social development of children as these approaches are also important.
“Nevertheless, we need to be careful to keep a balance when interpreting the results, so that we do not send a negative message to mothers that they have failed or make them feel guilty because they bottle-fed their babies.”

For the slow learners, there's more here.

http://www.breastfeeding.ie/policy_strategy wrote:

Currently approximately 47% of mothers in Ireland are breastfeeding at discharge from maternity care (NPRS, 2008). Breastfeeding duration rate figures are not currently collected at national level, however, research studies indicate the fall-off in breastfeeding following discharge is worryingly high with less than 10% of infants still breastfeeding at 6 months of age.

Tar.Aldarion

I would harm a child, I daresay it would make my gf happy.
/takes bewbs away from child

mink_man

defo!...I mean no.

civis_liberalis

What the hell is your point?

chucken1

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

I would harm a child, I daresay it would make my gf happy.
/takes bewbs away from child

They're not your bewbs anymore if theres a baba attached. AND the girlfriend would hurt you..badly

Killer Pigeon

Apparently there's some sort of an exemption of you're a catholic.

El Horseboxo

I am not above licking the shìt outta a child. Nor a woman or small animal while on the subject.

Kylo Ren

TL;DR

Burkatron

El Horseboxo wrote: »

I am not above licking the shìt outta a child. Nor a woman or small animal while on the subject.

Quoting this before the ninja edit!

Johnny D. Mudd

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Apparently there's some sort of an exemption of you're a catholic.

Does this mean I get to punch those damn pesky kids who come around with their damn school sponsorship cards?

I HATE THEM SOOOOO MUUUUUUCH!!!!

Killer Pigeon

Johnny D. Mudd wrote: »

Does this mean I get to punch those damn pesky kids who come around with their damn school sponsorship cards?

I HATE THEM SOOOOO MUUUUUUCH!!!!

Yes, however you have to be wearing a white collar while you're inflicting the physical trauma or else you won't be guaranteed full exemption.

Posy

civis_liberalis wrote: »

What the hell is your point?

+1.

What?!

Johnny D. Mudd

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Yes, however you have to be wearing a white collar while you're inflicting the physical trauma or else you won't be guaranteed full exemption.

Aw man. Well looks like it's jail for me. Apparently I'm in trouble for using "unnecessary force" and am therefore liable to get sued.

Ah well.

Napper Hawkins

Good thread, will read again.

bnt

Talk about a leading question ... when will people get it through their thick skulls that life is a lottery? I have no problem with the study, and so if breast-feeding improves a child's chances - great! Suck away. Anything that improves the odds is useful. But you are still playing the odds: there are no guarantees. Anyone who has children these days is just setting themselves up for disappointment later.

Reminds me of those Chuggers in Dublin centre who stop you and ask "do you love animals". Yes, but that does not automatically lead to "so I must give money to your charity". :rolleyes:

thebigbiffo

breastfeedings good???

f'ucking hell, i forgot since some other newspaper had a slow news day last week.

stovelid

civis_liberalis wrote: »

What the hell is your point?

Not being breast-fed makes you statistically more likely to abduct toddlers from holiday apartments.

swordofislam

I would only harm a child if it was him or me. Children of the Corn with mind powers hunting me down HELL YES
Slums of Sao Paolo with only my wits a gang of feral children HELL NO I would lead them to safety and hold a mirror up to the HYPOCRISY of the brazilian bourgeoisie!!!!!!

RachaelVO

civis_liberalis wrote: »

What the hell is your point?

I don't get this either! OP are you trying to say that children who weren't breastfed are being hurt? Or that they turn into psychos who stalk apartments in portugal? Or what... I'm not quite sure what you're trying to get at so I'm not sure whether to be offended or not

stovelid

RachaelVO wrote: »

I don't get this either!

Breast is best zealotry. Similar to breast-milk itself insofar as it always comes from tits.

phasers

OP, are you suggesting that people who bottle feed their children are abusing them? Because not only is it idiotic and insensitive, but your post is too long to be considered successful trolling. Try harder.

biko

Bottle feeding choice is not equal Maddie or child abuse.
I suggest you use Parenting or Newborn forum under Soc