Which countries play during the summer?

Beefy78

Bit of a self-explanatory thread.... I'm trying to compile a list of countries who play over the summer months (now up until end of July at least). I've got:

Ireland
US
Russia
Brazil (starts in a week or so I think)
Sweden

I'm struggling now. Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks

Badabing

SPL starts 23rd July if that helps.

WallyGUFC

Is Brazil not technically their Winter? Southern hemisphere?

Pinturicchio

WallyGUFC wrote: »

Is Brazil not technically their Winter? Southern hemisphere?

Yep. I'd imagine a lot of southern hemisphere countries play during our summer.

Zebra3

Iceland, Faroes, Norway, Sweden and Finland.

OhNoYouDidn't

In the northen hemisphere, all the scandinavians, baltics and former Soviet countries as the weather is too harsh to play a winter season, plus Ireland.

Interestingly, Scotland and the 6 counties are looking like following the FAI's lead and going with summer ball. Huge success here IMO

3hn2givr7mx1sc

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

In the northen hemisphere, all the scandinavians, baltics and former Soviet countries as the weather is too harsh to play a winter season, plus Ireland.

Interestingly, Scotland and the 6 counties are looking like following the FAI's lead and going with summer ball. Huge success here IMO

Could lead to the Old Firm being even worse in Europe, though.

dsmythy

I'm surprised Irish teams havn't tried to get regular inter-country friendlies going with their fellow summer leagues.

Beefy78

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

In the northen hemisphere, all the scandinavians, baltics and former Soviet countries as the weather is too harsh to play a winter season, plus Ireland.

Interestingly, Scotland and the 6 counties are looking like following the FAI's lead and going with summer ball. Huge success here IMO

I'd never heard that about Scotland. It would make sense. I think some lower league Scottish sides went three months without a home game over winter due to the harsh winter and I recall Stenhousemuir having one of their cup replays called off at least half a dozen times.

WallyGUFC wrote: »

Is Brazil not technically their Winter? Southern hemisphere?

Yeah, I meant our summer though so they'd be fine for what I'm looking for.

OhNoYouDidn't

baz2009 wrote: »

Could lead to the Old Firm being even worse in Europe, though.

How?

3hn2givr7mx1sc

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

How?

Not playing regular football during the KO stages of both competitions. Players wouldn't get much of a rest either.

Beefy78

baz2009 wrote: »

Not playing regular football during the KO stages of both competitions. Players wouldn't get much of a rest either.

Would probably give them an advantage in the qualifying rounds though. Celtic have tripped up there a couple of times in recent years.

Ebbs

dsmythy wrote: »

I'm surprised Irish teams havn't tried to get regular inter-country friendlies going with their fellow summer leagues.

No market for it. Not enough big names to actually draw a crowd hence its not economically viable with large costs for the traveling team.

Mid season friendlies against English/Scotish teams who are in their preseason is the only way to go. Unless of course Real Madrid want a rematch.

Royal Seahawk

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

In the northen hemisphere, all the scandinavians, baltics and former Soviet countries as the weather is too harsh to play a winter season, plus Ireland.

Interestingly, Scotland and the 6 counties are looking like following the FAI's lead and going with summer ball. Huge success here IMO

Huge? Really?
European results have improved but the league's status in Ireland is still the same, in fact it has had far more problems since Summer soccer came in in 2003 with clubs putting all their eggs in the European basket.

It was a step in the right direction simply because something had to be done but I wouldn't call it a HUGE success by any stretch.

OhNoYouDidn't

Royal Seahawk wrote: »

Huge? Really?
European results have improved but the league's status in Ireland is still the same, in fact it has had far more problems since Summer soccer came in in 2003 with clubs putting all their eggs in the European basket.

It was a step in the right direction simply because something had to be done but I wouldn't call it a HUGE success by any stretch.

You are mixing your cause and effect. Its daft to say that summer footbal caused Cork or Shels to go pop. That was as a result of the FAI introducing Platini's 'Financial Doping' rules in early as a trial run. All leagues will have the fun and games from 2013, and believe me, England will be hit exceptionally hard.

That just happened to conicide with summer football, that has seen better European results, higher crowds and an all round far better matchday experience for fans.

Vokes

Brazil top flight teams basically play all year round. State Championships followed by the National League. Bit of a mess really.

overshoot

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

You are mixing your cause and effect. Its daft to say that summer footbal caused Cork or Shels to go pop.

Ah now cork went pop seen as its tradition:D
while we have improved in europe, crowds have fallen, in Ireland GAA rules all and its a bit harder to compete with for crowds than premiership highlights. so its not a huge success

AstonMartin

Whats the standard of scandanavian football? Would it be more similar to Italy or the Netherlands?

OhNoYouDidn't

overshoot wrote: »

Ah now cork went pop seen as its tradition:D
while we have improved in europe, crowds have fallen, in Ireland GAA rules all and its a bit harder to compete with for crowds than premiership highlights. so its not a huge success

That is true. Cork do have a proud tradition of collapsing, but the rest of your post is wrong.

I don't think anyone disputes that LoI crowds are higher than they were during winter football. One of the factors in that is simply that its more pleasent to go and watch a game in short sleeves than in the lashings of rain.

Conversely, GAA crowds are far lower than they used to be. There was significant comment on it last season. Rules all my arse.

Mushy

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

That is true. Cork do have a proud tradition of collapsing, but the rest of your post is wrong.

I don't think anyone disputes that LoI crowds are higher than they were during winter football. One of the factors in that is simply that its more pleasent to go and watch a game in short sleeves than in the lashings of rain.

Conversely, GAA crowds are far lower than they used to be. There was significant comment on it last season. Rules all my arse.

What were the attendances of LOI games roughly before summer football came in?

Actually GAA crowds on average are up...think it depends on how the Dubs do really.

OhNoYouDidn't

Mushy wrote: »

What were the attendances of LOI games roughly before summer football came in?

I'm not sure, one of the geeks on the other place did up the numbers and there is roughly 25% more people going to games now then winter football.

Mushy wrote: »

Actually GAA crowds on average are up...think it depends on how the Dubs do really.

They most certainly are not, but I take your point about the Duds being the cash cow. There has been a steady decline in All Ireland Cup attendences for about 5 years now. Admittedly its from a very high point, my understanding that a combination of more games on tv, ticket price increases and a comparatively poor product are to blame. They are down about 15% from their peak in the mid noughties.

Mushy

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

I'm not sure, one of the geeks on the other place did up the numbers and there is roughly 25% more people going to games now then winter football.



They most certainly are not, but I take your point about the Duds being the cash cow. There has been a steady decline in All Ireland Cup attendences for about 5 years now. Admittedly its from a very high point, my understanding that a combination of more games on tv, ticket price increases and a comparatively poor product are to blame. They are down about 15% from their peak in the mid noughties.

That's a good increase, hopefully it can keep improving.

I think it was last years was up, but Dublin got to the semi-final so obviously that skews figures. It was always just a case of a few matches having very high attendances anyway, the usual factors are of course gonna play into dwindling crowds. They are looking into cheaper tickets now alright. But lets leave it at that.

How else do ya think summer football should be advertised to get more crowds at LOI games? I think just more advertising should be done, be it posters in shop windows. Matches are great fun to be at, I'd say word of mouth can be used. I was sitting in middle of Pats fans at the Bray-Pats match last week, no trouble at all. I know it may be different between more hardcore supporters, but its a vast minority.

Hope it does improve, and more people come to games, although it may take a European appearance first.

TheBigLebowski

Mushy wrote: »

Hope it does improve, and more people come to games, although it may take a European appearance first.

A european appearance won't improve attendences. It may even have a negative effect. It will bring crowds for the fixtures themselves but it's unlikely many (if any) will come back for league games. It may also mean that supporters who now only come out for the current 6/8 games a year against Pats/Bohs etc might now only come out for the 6/8 European games. It's a myth that a European run will bring crowds. Hopefully I'm proved wrong some day.

Royal Seahawk

TheBigLebowski wrote: »

A european appearance won't improve attendences. It may even have a negative effect. It will bring crowds for the fixtures themselves but it's unlikely many (if any) will come back for league games. It may also mean that supporters who now only come out for the current 6/8 games a year against Pats/Bohs etc might now only come out for the 6/8 European games. It's a myth that a European run will bring crowds. Hopefully I'm proved wrong some day.

This is true. I remember Bohs playing Rosenburg in 2003 I think. Massive crowd at it and a great atmosphere etc. The following week Bohs played Bray(I think) and there was far less than normal at it. Why bother watching Bray when we can wait for the next European tie.

I like summer soccer in general, it's far better to go and watch but the attendances have not risen as highly as was expected, which is a shame really. If the Dublin football team go on a good run then they get most of the attention from casual sportsfans in the capital during the Summer months.

Mushy

TheBigLebowski wrote: »

A european appearance won't improve attendences. It may even have a negative effect. It will bring crowds for the fixtures themselves but it's unlikely many (if any) will come back for league games. It may also mean that supporters who now only come out for the current 6/8 games a year against Pats/Bohs etc might now only come out for the 6/8 European games. It's a myth that a European run will bring crowds. Hopefully I'm proved wrong some day.

Yikes I didn't think it'd be that bad. Sad indictment on people I guess. I've just started going now recently, trying to get others to come along to each game, but it can be hard enough.

Gavin "shels"

Mushy wrote: »

Yikes I didn't think it'd be that bad. Sad indictment on people I guess. I've just started going now recently, trying to get others to come along to each game, but it can be hard enough.

Prime example would be Shels -v- Depor La Coruna in Lansdowne, whatever crazy attendence that was 20,000+ can't remember exactly, then the next home league match we got about 2,000 if even at it.

Mushy

Gavin shels wrote: »

Prime example would be Shels -v- Depor La Coruna in Lansdowne, whatever crazy attendence that was 20,000+ can't remember exactly, then the next home league match we got about 2,000 if even at it.

While ya can't expect everyone to go, surely you'd expect a few hundred from it. My exacerbation is growing here.

AstonMartin

There is no singing, chanting or general excitment at most matches.

improve the atmosphere in the stands and the people will come.

CSF

AstonMartin wrote: »

There is no singing, chanting or general excitment at most matches.

You are wrong.

flahavaj

Mushy wrote: »

While ya can't expect everyone to go, surely you'd expect a few hundred from it. My exacerbation is growing here.

If there's one thing that'll make everything worse its exacerbation.:pac:

Gavin "shels"

AstonMartin wrote: »

There is no singing, chanting or general excitment at most matches.

improve the atmosphere in the stands and the people will come.

Should really get to a few matches so. Just youtube Briogaid Dearg, SRFC Ultras, Forza Rovers, Irish Ultras, etc...

Tallaght Saint

AstonMartin wrote: »

There is no singing, chanting or general excitment at most matches..

Wrong. Ultras groups are bringing colour and noise to grounds all over the country.

Gavin shels wrote: »

Should really get to a few matches so. Just youtube Briogaid Dearg, SRFC Ultras, Forza Rovers, Irish Ultras, etc...

*Shameless plug* Shed End Invincibles also...

Witchie

Have to say since we (mons) have had a little success last year, we now have proper singing fans who travel on buses to games and all. Shocking i know! Particularly in a gah heartland. Loi is on the rise.

Jump on board now people.:-D