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History - African/Asian independence

  • 08-05-2011 6:19pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭


    Need to know a country I could write about and leader I could write about for an african/asian country's struggle for independence after 1945. It comes up nearly every year and it's either 12 or 14 marks everytime. Problem is I've no idea what country to write about.... or leader.

    Would writing about Vietnem and JFK do? Would Ghandi and India work?
    Whats would be the best country to do?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 juniorcertlol


    dosent that ALWAYS come up with an event during the cold war? Because you could just learn of the cuban missle crisis or the korean war tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭FatRat


    I know I could. I know all about the berlin blockade. But I want to know about an african/asian country, just incase. I reckon I'd be able to write more about a country gaining independence then I would the blockade. So I'd get full marks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,248 ✭✭✭Slow Show


    Gandhi and India are on the course...that's what I did for mine. Back in the earlier years the whole Cold War Crisis question could be a bit dodgy, like I saw one year they left out one of the three, and most people only study one...that hasn't happened since around 2003 though, maybe it is getting easier. :pac: But it's a good idea to know both. I could maybe forward on an essay I have written about Indian independence, it'd probably be helpful for me to type it out anyway. If you want, I can post it in the notes thread at some stage over the next week. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Desire.


    We're not even covering that part of the course in school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭FatRat


    We aren't either. That's why I asked. I don't think there's an example in the history book. I thought Korea would do, but looking over it, there's nothing about independence of Korea in it...... I think.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Desire.


    What book are you using? Our book doesn't cover it either, but the latest edition of it does.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    When I corrected, it was rarely answered but almost always answered very well. Most did Jomo Kenyatta and Kenya and would have scored full marks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 juniorcertlol


    @Slow Show

    If you could type up about Gandhi and India it would be great, our book dosent even cover it! thanks in advance, if you get the chance :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Desire.


    Is everyone here studying Northern Ireland? I don't know if we are going to do it or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭FatRat


    spurious wrote: »
    When I corrected, it was rarely answered but almost always answered very well. Most did Jomo Kenyatta and Kenya and would have scored full marks.

    This is pretty much all I needed spurious. I have no idea what to write though because all I can find about him and kenya is massive essays. What are the important points?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Find a children's encyclopaedia (one that you can hold in your hand) and look for Kenya, Jomo Kenyatta and the Mau Mau. It will be more suitable than the internet resources.

    I could write out an answer for you here but to be fair, it's not what I do with my own students and it wouldn't teach you anything.

    Here are some sites that might help:
    http://legacy.lclark.edu/~peck/EAf-Orient/Kenya/Independence-Struggle.htm
    http://mclane.fresno.k12.ca.us/wilson98/mwh/C/MH18C073.PDF (.pdf file)
    http://africanhistory.about.com/od/biography/a/bio-Kenyatta01.htm - a lot in this but you could take relevant notes
    http://www.answers.com/topic/jomo-kenyatta


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭FatRat


    It would be handy spurious, because then I wouldn't have to read through several pages of writing about him and pick out the important points!... Effort.

    "Name one leader involved in the movement for independence in a named African or Asian country
    since 1945 and write an account of that leader’s role in the movement."

    ^ This this mean I'm only allowed talk about his role after 1945? Or does it mean I'm allowed to talk about his role during the entire struggle in which some of the struggle took place after 1945?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    You can mention any factors pre 1945 that may have influenced the person (education, life experiences etc.) but the main thrust of your answer should be the role of the leader in that movement.

    I've no problem correcting an answer if you want to PM me one. You might be surprised how easy it is to get the marks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,248 ✭✭✭Slow Show


    Does the Asian/African nationalism question tend to get marked easier than the cold war crisis? This is just out of curiosity really, I find the Cuban Missile Crisis really interesting and I can remember all the minute details from it, but I remember I quite liked learning about India too...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭FatRat


    spurious wrote: »
    You can mention any factors pre 1945 that may have influenced the person (education, life experiences etc.) but the main thrust of your answer should be the role of the leader in that movement.

    I've no problem correcting an answer if you want to PM me one. You might be surprised how easy it is to get the marks.


    I may do that once I make one up. Do you correct ones written in Irish? Because I do everything through Irish.
    Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭FatRat


    Slow Show wrote: »
    Does the Asian/African nationalism question tend to get marked easier than the cold war crisis? This is just out of curiosity really, I find the Cuban Missile Crisis really interesting and I can remember all the minute details from it, but I remember I quite liked learning about India too...


    I was told that some questions that are answered less then others are marked easier. Like, nearly everyone will pick the cold war question, if it comes up mostly because it's the easiest, and most frequently learned question. So if someone does about asia or africa, it tends to be marked easier.

    It's what I've been told by a few of my teachers before.... not about history though, come to think of it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Oh God my Irish would be a bit rusty to be honest, but I'd give it a try.

    Questions that are answered less often tend to do better for a few reasons I suppose.
    • They are less likely to be learned off and more likely to be a 'proper' answer to the question asked.
    • As you have found out, it's more difficult find information on some of the unusual questions, so you end up doing it yourself, thus learning more and answering better.
    • Correctors can be bored stiff after up to 400 identical 'Cold War' answers and one on ANYTHING else is welcome.
    • If 400 are answering on one topic and 20 on another, your good answer may well be up near the top of the twenty but nowhere near the top of the 400 - this comes more into play with the OM component of the marks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭FionnK86


    My history teacher told us today that we need 1000 words for her for the mid-term.

    I was going to do the rise of the Taliban but I lost interest over the last year, so I decided to do "Jomo Kenyatta and his role in achieving Kenyan independence". because ive gone to Kenya twice and I want to learn a bit about the country's history.

    However I don't think were doing colonies in history so I dont know if its too close to the course and if the examiner will think its boring reading the same yoke over and over again?Any help:D?


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