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Mechanical Engineering level 7

  • 07-05-2011 5:13pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12


    I am just after completing year one of a three year mechanical engineering level 7 course. i like the course but i want to find out if there will be a job when finish this course or will i have to do a level 8 course. Also i want to know anybody who has done the course and what job would you actually be doing?.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 ferrarienzo


    bump


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭-jellybelly-


    I did my level 7 in Bolton St, applied for the 2yr add on course for my level 8 but didn't get in. Ended up doing a 1yr add on course in GMIT for my level 8 which I found pretty easy. Spent 3 months unemployed, 3 months on the Fas work placement program in a manufacturing plant and now am working in validation for a medical company. Recommend doing your level 8 before starting work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭bradyle


    I would imagine you'd be much better of getting your level 8 because you're gonna be up against people who have them when you're applying for a job...

    jellybelly i was just wondering how you found the fas placement...im finishin up now and really would like to do somethin and am consierin applyin for it...also what company you work for....im really interested in the bio field


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭-jellybelly-


    I'd recommend the placement. You have to be on the dole 3 months to qualify (did other fas training courses while I waited) and then you just get your dole while on placement. Firstly you do a proper engineering interview to get the placement, get experience in a proper company which should give you a huge advantage over other graduates. Shows you want to work too as you are basically working for nothing. My placement was totally different than my job now but in the interview I was able to talk about real work place situations which is what they want. I'll PM the companies now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,317 ✭✭✭kevohmsford


    I know lads who have gotten work with semiconductor companies. Others work for ESBi and Siemens also recruit from Bolton Street. The level 8 course is a tough course t do but well worth it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭__Robinhood__


    Stryker intruments in cork are lookig for lab techs with Level 7's, im in the same boat, just finishing my 3rd year in CIT, need 70% adverage to get into level 8 which im hoping for, if not il go elsewhere to get a level 8.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭BASHIR


    Finishing level 8 mechanical now, suggest doing it tbh. Took a year out last year silly enough now thinking about it, but could not find any engineering work was constantly competing against level 8 graduates for the same jobs.
    I thought I would not be able for it to be honest but really put the head down this year and am doing really well. good luck with what ever you decide to do :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭Turbulent Bill


    I did my level 7 in Bolton St, applied for the 2yr add on course for my level 8 but didn't get in. Ended up doing a 1yr add on course in GMIT for my level 8 which I found pretty easy.

    Given that they're both NFQ Level 8, is the Bolton St. course part-time and GMIT full-time or how does it work? I'm confused at how you weren't accepted to Bolton St., but were to GMIT (easier entry?), did the course twice as quickly and still came out with the same qualification level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,129 ✭✭✭kirving


    Upon completing the level 7 in Bolton Street, and getting an average of over 60%, you can apply internally to join the third year of the level 8 course.

    You then do the third and fourth yars of the level 8, and finish after 5 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭Darren1o1


    Given that they're both NFQ Level 8, is the Bolton St. course part-time and GMIT full-time or how does it work? I'm confused at how you weren't accepted to Bolton St., but were to GMIT (easier entry?), did the course twice as quickly and still came out with the same qualification level.

    As far as I can determine, GMIT is not Engineers Ireland accredited for level 8 for full membership? Maybe this is the difference. I know other level 7's going in DCU had to go to 3rd yr, hence taking 5 yrs.


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Given that they're both NFQ Level 8, is the Bolton St. course part-time and GMIT full-time or how does it work? I'm confused at how you weren't accepted to Bolton St., but were to GMIT (easier entry?), did the course twice as quickly and still came out with the same qualification level.

    In DIT in the School of Electrical Engineering Systems there are 3 depeartments.

    In one of the departments, Electrical Engineering Services there is a
    Level 8 that can be completed in one year once the candidate has a suitable level 7 qualification.

    However, in the department of Control Enginerring it takes a further 2 years to complete a level 8 for a candidate that has a suitable level 7 qualification.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭-jellybelly-


    yea it was easier entry to GMIT. My level 8 is not engineers Ireland recognised (would have been if from DIT) One years less study though so no regrets :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭Turbulent Bill


    yea it was easier entry to GMIT. My level 8 is not engineers Ireland recognised (would have been if from DIT) One years less study though so no regrets :D

    Saving a year's study is a false economy if you ever want to work abroad. One of the (few) useful things EI does is accredit courses and have your qualifications recognised abroad. Most employers here don't care about course specifics (a degree's a degree), but it's much more important in the US or on the continent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭Darren1o1


    Saving a year's study is a false economy if you ever want to work abroad. One of the (few) useful things EI does is accredit courses and have your qualifications recognised abroad. Most employers here don't care about course specifics (a degree's a degree), but it's much more important in the US or on the continent.

    Yeah it was a key part of me getting my job stateside. I was able to prove that it was recognized by the ABET through the Washington accord.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭dahamster


    2011 wrote: »
    In DIT in the School of Electrical Engineering Systems there are 3 depeartments.

    In one of the departments, Electrical Engineering Services there is a
    Level 8 that can be completed in one year once the candidate has a suitable level 7 qualification.

    However, in the department of Control Enginerring it takes a further 2 years to complete a level 8 for a candidate that has a suitable level 7 qualification.

    Apples and oranges.

    A BSc(hons) against an EI accredited BEng (hons).

    However both are level 8 pn the NFQ.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    dahamster wrote: »
    both are level 8 pn the NFQ.
    That was the part I was referring to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭brotherrabbit


    Do the level 7...then get experience.... no matter what you have on the piece of paper, the biggest issue is experience. employers love level 8s...but a level 7 and a few years hands on experience is worth far more


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Do the level 7...then get experience.... no matter what you have on the piece of paper, the biggest issue is experience. employers love level 8s...but a level 7 and a few years hands on experience is worth far more
    +1

    I am working for a large consultancy, that is what I am seeing at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭B1977


    is there a difference between a level 8 Mech Eng Degree or Facilities Engineering Level 8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭B1977


    B1977 wrote: »
    is there a difference between a level 8 Mech Eng Degree or Facilities Engineering Level 8

    bump


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭B1977




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭brotherrabbit


    I did engineering systems maintenance in DIT, aimed at industrial maintenance and facility management. good course


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    Hi all.

    I'm halfway through year 2 of a 3 year mechanical eng level 7 in cit. They have a few level 8 options after the level 7, all of which are 2 years in length.

    Are there any 1 year, Cork based, options for me when I get the level 7? It doesn't have to be in mechanical engineering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭mooman


    Dermighty wrote: »
    Hi all.

    I'm halfway through year 2 of a 3 year mechanical eng level 7 in cit. They have a few level 8 options after the level 7, all of which are 2 years in length.

    Are there any 1 year, Cork based, options for me when I get the level 7? It doesn't have to be in mechanical engineering.

    AMT and PPT are one year add on courses, at least they were when I was there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    advanced manufacturing technology and process & plant technology?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭mooman


    Dermighty wrote: »
    advanced manufacturing technology and process & plant technology?

    Yep, a few of my friends did ppt and all of them got work from it so it seems to be the one to go for. I think the factories in the area have a lot of input to what is on the course so it's well regarded by them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭Mr. Tezza


    Depends on what kind of industry you want to do when you finish college, I did the AMT 1 year add on in CIT, for a lot of the classes both PPT and AMT are together but they do have their own subjects too, PPT does thermodymanics and is more suited to the fuilds intustry that kind of the where AMT is more based on steelwork and that kind of thing I think, also as an elective i'd recommend doing Electrotechnology at some point as it gives you an idea of the workings of electronics which is a bonus I feel...

    I also know a few people who did the PPT add on after getting their BEng. in Mechanical Engineering, any questions just drop me a pm if you want and I'll do my best to help you out!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    I'm in 2nd year and I took "electrotechnology & control" as an elective and I found it interesting.

    Obviously I want a good qualification but I know the level 7 isn't enough for me. I had my mind set on doing sustainable energy because a friend did it and enjoyed it for many of the same reason I think I would, namely it's interesting and you learn some cool stuff and ou can get a job with it (he did).

    I will most likely leave Ireland shortly after getting my degree (Canada most likely) and I'd like to get a job, I understand Canada has a lot of resource exploration (as does Australia etc) so I'm wondering would the PPT degree be useful for the mining industry (I would think yes on paper) or are there better options available to me. Due to a relationship I'm ruling out travelling outside Cork to do a level 8 degree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭Mr. Tezza


    I'd say stick it out and do Sustainable Energy, is it still a 2 year add on? don't think it ran at all cos of lack of numbers when I was in college, I might have dkne it otherwise... I'd have actually thought AMT would be better for resource exploration, but I could be biased cos thats what I did and I dunno exactly what they got up to in PPT.

    that elective you mentioned is what I did, its very good and gives you an appreciation of electronics, tough enough but worth it I think.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    Well, my circumstances have changed slightly and I wont be leaving the country (99% sure). I'm about to start the final semester of of the level 7 degree in Mechanical Engineering. It's looking like a 1 year add on will be what I'll be doing, AMT seems to be more suitable than PPT based on the prospectus.

    What sort of options do you get when you complete the AMT level 8. A friend works for a company that designs and supplies pressure vessels to Shell and other oil/gas companies and I really like the sound of the work he does, unfortunately for me it seems like I'd need a level 8 in mechanical for that (which he has).

    Are you limited to manufacturing if you do the AMT or ould you obtain a job that a lvl 8 mechanical qualification gets you? The AMT seems like a good option but I don't want to limit the scope of my qualification.


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