Cost of Shed please please help

case 956

Hi fellow boards, i am wondering what is the run of shed prices. i am turning from suckler to dairy and planning to build a cubicle shed for 50 cows at the min with plans to double up in a few years and build for another 50 cows( build 1 side first and then the other side in 5 yrs say). the size i was planning was 75ft long by 48ft wide, with 10ft slatted feeding area, row of cubicles back to back, 10ft slatted passage and then another row of cubicles at the back wall. be hoping to get s/h cubicles and s/h slats if i could to keep costs to minumin and use just tubular bars for feed barriers. Sorry for long text but roughly what price this work out for.

jeff greene

deja vu:pac:

Forget second hand slats, 10' feeding passage is no good, go 16' at least. Not a fan of cubicles facing feeding passage as hard to keep clean. Single steel pipe for barrier is fine anyway.

As for costs, 80k or more depending on the site, if rock breaker is needed etc.

irishh_bob

case 956 wrote: »

Hi fellow boards, i am wondering what is the run of shed prices. i am turning from suckler to dairy and planning to build a cubicle shed for 50 cows at the min with plans to double up in a few years and build for another 50 cows( build 1 side first and then the other side in 5 yrs say). the size i was planning was 75ft long by 48ft wide, with 10ft slatted feeding area, row of cubicles back to back, 10ft slatted passage and then another row of cubicles at the back wall. be hoping to get s/h cubicles and s/h slats if i could to keep costs to minumin and use just tubular bars for feed barriers. Sorry for long text but roughly what price this work out for.

whatever about second hand cubicles , you would be stone crazy to even consider second hand slats , you can do more damage taking out and putting in slats in a day than in the 30 year life of the things , thier not even expensive at the moment FFS , i wouldnt go for second hand cubicles either , if your entering into a project like this , a few thousand here or there is not going to make much diference in the long run

i reckon the job shouldnt cost anymore than 70 k

st1979

I put up a grant shed 2 yrs ago for 74 cubicles total cost a bit over 40k. similar to what your talking about. 100'x43'. It was a bit like your second part of the shed your talking about as i already had the feed passage. Shed from north cost €16500 excl vat galvanised steel work 20' bays with galvanised purlins. Wouldn't recommend 20' bays as its difficult to buy headlock barriers etc in future. I put in new cubicles but s/h mats. From the low end i have a wall 5' high then box profile that is vented an 8' cubicle bed against the wall then a 8' passage then headto head cubicles with 7'6 beds then a 12' passage against the feed barrier. The sh1t is scraped 50' down to an open concrete lagoon. When money allows i will put in rope scrapers in the 2 passages (cost 5000 sterling for 2 150' passages).
The lagoon was put in 22yrs ago by digging a 10"-12" trench 9' deep in a rectangle and filling it with concrete then dug out the centre and poured the floor in it. So no need for shutters (modern shutters are bigger and cheaper to use) or back filling. Only works in marly clay so not for everyone.
But I been to uk and a lot of the expanding dairies were putting in massive clay lined lagoons. Cheap and leaves more money to buy cows but will have higher running cost due to rainwater having to be spread. I know there are planning problems but its worth looking into. As if i was to do it all again i would have a massive lagoon and all slurry and dirty water would go into it (i think watery slurry is better than spreading thick slurry and then spreading dirty water). So i could spread when i want not when the tank is full plus leaves it cheap later on to expand as no slurry storage required.

keep going

st1979 wrote: »

I put up a grant shed 2 yrs ago for 74 cubicles total cost a bit over 40k. similar to what your talking about. 100'x43'. It was a bit like your second part of the shed your talking about as i already had the feed passage. Shed from north cost €16500 excl vat galvanised steel work 20' bays with galvanised purlins. Wouldn't recommend 20' bays as its difficult to buy headlock barriers etc in future. I put in new cubicles but s/h mats. From the low end i have a wall 5' high then box profile that is vented an 8' cubicle bed against the wall then a 8' passage then headto head cubicles with 7'6 beds then a 12' passage against the feed barrier. The sh1t is scraped 50' down to an open concrete lagoon. When money allows i will put in rope scrapers in the 2 passages (cost 5000 sterling for 2 150' passages).
The lagoon was put in 22yrs ago by digging a 10"-12" trench 9' deep in a rectangle and filling it with concrete then dug out the centre and poured the floor in it. So no need for shutters (modern shutters are bigger and cheaper to use) or back filling. Only works in marly clay so not for everyone.
But I been to uk and a lot of the expanding dairies were putting in massive clay lined lagoons. Cheap and leaves more money to buy cows but will have higher running cost due to rainwater having to be spread. I know there are planning problems but its worth looking into. As if i was to do it all again i would have a massive lagoon and all slurry and dirty water would go into it (i think watery slurry is better than spreading thick slurry and then spreading dirty water). So i could spread when i want not when the tank is full plus leaves it cheap later on to expand as no slurry storage required.

clever way of shuttering, why rope scrapers?pros and cons?

case 956

Great help here. Forget to mention i be planning in putting in the precast cubicle beds. Any1 no much about them????

st1979

Have 5 hydraulic scrapers. They were ok for the first couple of years but have high maintaince costs. Have 2 passages that give no bother 1 gives a bit and the other 2 are a real pain in the ass. Problem is i have to drive over the 2 passages and they are going out of the shed so in summer the crap dries out on the track covering the notches and in winter the crap freezes. 1 piece of track costs over 100 euro whereas i think the rope for 2 150' passages is a couple of hundred in total and is in 3 pieces so not dear to replace and should be faster to scrape and less power required.

irishh_bob

case 956 wrote: »

Great help here. Forget to mention i be planning in putting in the precast cubicle beds. Any1 no much about them????

thier expensive and unesscesery if you put in new slats and have no intention of using the shed for anything other than cows for the foreseable future

irishh_bob

st1979 wrote: »

Have 5 hydraulic scrapers. They were ok for the first couple of years but have high maintaince costs. Have 2 passages that give no bother 1 gives a bit and the other 2 are a real pain in the ass. Problem is i have to drive over the 2 passages and they are going out of the shed so in summer the crap dries out on the track covering the notches and in winter the crap freezes. 1 piece of track costs over 100 euro whereas i think the rope for 2 150' passages is a couple of hundred in total and is in 3 pieces so not dear to replace and should be faster to scrape and less power required.

scrapers are incredibly finicky alright , i wouldnt put them in if i got them for nothing , slats are cheaper in the long run anyhow

pakalasa

What about a lined lagoon, even better if you dont have to line it. Down to planning permission, I know.
http://www.liningservices.com/dynamicdata/farmeffluentslurrystores.php

You could use a slurry channel and scrape into it, flow directly to the lagoon then.
Here are rope scrapers in action;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7ckAc1HXzE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxEY4iNZicI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OuKrcQoYHY

When all is said and done, might be cheaper in the long run to put in a slatted tank, with new slats.

blue5000

Hi Case 956, what buildings have you got already? would it be possible to build cubicles on to the back of an exsisting slatted feed passage?

Don't bother with second hand cubicles, the likes of o'donavans can sell you a cubicle for not much more than the price of a length of pipe, ballpark is 35euro.

Another possibility is to feed across the end and down one side in an L-shape feed passage, with 3 rows of cubicles. Also try to think about dividing cows into 3 batches; milkers, dry and thin dry cows or a small batch say 10 that are springing and are near calving, put calving boxes near the parlour.

Best of luck with it.

keep going

maybe cheaper but alot of people say cows are cleaner with scrapers

st1979

Best advice is to get lots of advice. Then take out of it what suits your system. Contractors can be great cause they are around farmers yards the whole time and see what works. I took about 4 years thinking and planning my new parlour and cubicle shed. My slurry contractor was actually very helpful cause he made me think about a total different part of the yard than i was thinking. Didn't put it where he said but put it in that area of the yard. And don't rush into it. Would be great if you could convert an existing shed handily (just make sure its not like triggers broom where u end up replacing most of the shed just to make it work)

sacundai

can i ask where you bought the shed up north st1979

_Brian

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