MOTOR TAX DISPLAY

jakdelad

can anyone settle a dispute
one of the boys in the local claimbs
your tax disc nct disc and insurance disc
can be placed on the back window or the side window of your car
as long as it is displayed in public and a guard can see it..
it does not say specifically in law it must be the windscreen
i ve never heard of this??
regards

Saruman

Good question.

From Citizens info:

Not only are you obliged by law to pay motor tax to drive your vehicle, you are also required to display evidence that you have paid (i.e., a current tax disc) on the windscreen of your vehicle. Failure to display a current tax disc on your vehicle is considered a motoring offence and will result in a €60 on-the-spot fine issued by a traffic warden or a Garda.

However that is not the law and is the only mention of windscreen on the page.

I imagine it is on the windscreen to make it easier for the Garda to check at a checkpoint. If it's not there you could piss him off and just end up wasting your own time.

Also if a Garda does not see it when the car is parked, YOU have to prove you are taxed and make your way to the station and all that crap so it is just easier all round to have it on the windscreen to be honest.

Our man in Havana

Are you for real OP?

charlemont

You could put it upside down on the back window, Be some craic to see a Garda's reaction at a checkpoint, He would probably ask you in a puzzled voice "are you feeling well".

Actually I saw an L plate on a drivers car roof recently.

slimjimmc

NCT disc must be on inside of front windscreen
S.I. No. 548 of 2009

3. A test disc shall be affixed to the inside of the front windscreen of the vehicle to which it relates. The disc shall be affixed so that it is visible for inspection

and S.I. 567/2009

The NCT Disc on the right is required by law to be displayed on the inside of your vehicle windscreen.

Insurance disc also must be on the windscreen S.I. 227/1986

(2) The insurance disc shall be carried in a conspicuous position on the windscreen of the vehicle in such manner that it shall be both visible and readily accessible for inspection and be so located that it does not obscure the vision of the driver while the vehicle is being driven or in the case of a vehicle not fitted with a windscreen in a conspicuous position on the near side of the vehicle.

Can't find much on the Tax disc except for the following which refers to the need for a tax disc on the windscreen when doing your driving test.
Sect 92 of the RTA 2010

“(3B) An issuing authority shall not carry out nor cause to be carried out a test for a certificate of competency unless the mechanically propelled vehicle in which the test is to be carried out displays on its front windscreen—
(a) a licence taken out under section 1 of the Finance (Excise Duties) (Vehicles) Act 1952 , or
(b) where the vehicle is a vehicle to which section 18 applies, a test certificate,
for the time being in force, in respect of the vehicle.

Argument over I think.

source

Road tax or Road Fund Licence is covered under Section 73 Finance Act 1976. Doesn't say specifically where it is to be displayed but says it has to be displayed according to Section 5 (5) of the 1920 Act (which I cannot find), to which Act does this relate???

73.—(1) Where a vehicle to which this Part applies is used, parked or otherwise kept at any time in a public place, if while the vehicle is being so used, parked or kept there is not fixed to and exhibited on the vehicle in accordance with section 5 (5) of the Act of 1920 a licence which is both issued in respect of the vehicle and is for the time being in force, then the person by whom the vehicle is so used, parked or kept at the time shall be guilty of an offence, and in addition to the person aforesaid, the person (if he is not the person aforesaid) who on the day on which the offence is committed is in relation to the vehicle the relevant person shall also be guilty of an offence.


(2) A person shall not be convicted under this section and under section 12 (4) of the Act of 1920 in respect of the same omission.

234

Possibly the Finance Act 1920 but more likely the Roads Act 1920. Both are listed as "Referred to" in the act.
Edit: neither are available on Irishstatutebook.ie, maybe the Attorney General doesn't have a licence to publish British legislation or maybe he just doesn't want to sully his hands with pre-independence laws. P.S. is our current AG a she? Think so but not sure and I'm not bothered googling it.

source

234 wrote: »

Possibly the Finance Act 1920 but more likely the Roads Act 1920. Both are listed as "Referred to" in the act.
Edit: neither are available on Irishstatutebook.ie, maybe the Attorney General doesn't have a licence to publish British legislation or maybe he just doesn't want to sully his hands with pre-independence laws. P.S. is our current AG a she? Think so but not sure and I'm not bothered googling it.

Yeah Marie Whelan is the AG currently. Just checked the Roads Act 1920, it does indeed refer to Road Fund Licences, but doesn't make the placing of the tax disc any clearer.

Our man in Havana

There is probably nothing to stop someone from sticking the tax disk in the rear window but a judge would probably take a dim view of a chancer doing so.

slimjimmc

Our man in Havana wrote: »

There is probably nothing to stop someone from sticking the tax disk in the rear window but a judge would probably take a dim view of a chancer doing so.

You'd have to smash out all the front glass though
S.I. 385/1992.

Exhibition of licence on vehicle.
4. (1) The licence for a vehicle shall be carried on the vehicle at all times when the vehicle is used, parked or otherwise kept at any time in a public place.

(2) The licence shall be carried on the vehicle as follows:—

( a ) on a bicycle, tricycle, or invalid carriage — in a conspicuous position on the near side of the vehicle;
( b ) on a bicycle or tricycle used for drawing a sidecar — on the near side of the handlebar of the cycle or the near side of the combination in front of the driving seat;
( c ) on a pedestrian-controlled vehicle — in a conspicuous position on the near side of the vehicle;
( d ) on any other vehicle — in a conspicuous position on the near side of the vehicle, or where the vehicle is fitted with a transparent windscreen — in a conspicuous position on such windscreen and in such a manner that it shall be both visible and readily accessible for inspection and be so located that it does not obscure the vision of the driver while the vehicle is being driven.
(3) The licence shall be carried in such a manner as to show at all times the date of expiry and the particulars set out at paragraph (b) of article 3 of these Regulations.

Victor

in a conspicuous position on such windscreen

Oh dear, most people have it under the windscreen. :pac: