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friend faked suicide temp

  • 07-05-2011 8:13am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    My friend who likes to be centre of attention and will probably do what ever it takes to get attention. he send a weird (suicide note) on facebook well it came accross as one and everyone who read it was concerned etc.. 24 hours later got in touch with one of his other close friend and he told me he rang his dad and said he tempted to take his life, I was told not to contact his parents or ring his phone I ignored that and tried contacting him by texting him and his other friend phoned me and said I told you not to contact him at this time and don't ring his parents, this parents seem to know nothing about anything as when I rang his dad seem to talk normal and not sound down. I was told by this guy to contact my (tempted suicde) friend anytime in the evening, now he said he was in a bad place and didn't want to talk about it and was vag about some stuff, move on few days later this other friend made a statement to few people that this guy tempted suicide twice on on sunday night and on tuesday night, thing is I was talking to him on wednesday at home now I know doctors wouldn't allow anyone home that early never mind second night and when I talk to this so called mate he said his parents don't know the half of his problems again if it was me my parents would want to know everything and talk to his other friends to get to bottom of the situation

    would I be right to be suspicious I and other people think the same I had rang 1 hospital that he's lives near and they don't have record of anyone by his name

    how can I prove he's lying? and is is illigal? to do what he done?


Comments

  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Why are you so keen to find out if this is a lie? Why is that so important to you? If your friend was suicidal, that is a terrible thing, and no, his parents might not realise. Suicide generally comes out of nowhere, with those closest to the person having no idea it was going to happen.

    Now, it could easily be that your mate is attention seeking. But if they are it could just be an immature joke. Or, it could actually be because they are really unhappy. Your best course of action would be to talk to this person, and be a friend to them, so you are there if anything is wrong. Instead of wondering if faking a suicide attempt is illegal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Jesus Christ leave the guy alone! You were told by a close friend not ring the parents or the guy. You did anyway. You were warned again not to try, because the parents don't know. Then you a rang the hospital.

    You're turning this into a witch hunt trying to prove he was lying or that he was wrong. Stop! Anytime I've experienced anything like suicide it happened like that, and the close friends knew but the parents didn't.

    If he attempted suicide on a tuesday, you have no idea what he actually tried. Who says he was even in the hospital about it?

    No its not illegal. But you ringing everyone and ringing the hospital is getting a bit ridiculous. Leave it be OP.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This will likely get me banned from here, but it needs to be said. There is no advice that can be given, not really. That was a horrible thing that you did. It has nothing to do with you whether he attempted suicide or not.

    You asked if it was illegal. What? So you're thinking of ringing the cops and getting him arrested - yeah, that would help him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 821 ✭✭✭temply


    My friend who likes to be centre of attention and will probably do what ever it takes to get attention. he send a weird (suicide note) on facebook well it came accross as one and everyone who read it was concerned etc.. 24 hours later got in touch with one of his other close friend and he told me he rang his dad and said he tempted to take his life, I was told not to contact his parents or ring his phone I ignored that and tried contacting him by texting him and his other friend phoned me and said I told you not to contact him at this time and don't ring his parents, this parents seem to know nothing about anything as when I rang his dad seem to talk normal and not sound down. I was told by this guy to contact my (tempted suicde) friend anytime in the evening, now he said he was in a bad place and didn't want to talk about it and was vag about some stuff, move on few days later this other friend made a statement to few people that this guy tempted suicide twice on on sunday night and on tuesday night, thing is I was talking to him on wednesday at home now I know doctors wouldn't allow anyone home that early never mind second night and when I talk to this so called mate he said his parents don't know the half of his problems again if it was me my parents would want to know everything and talk to his other friends to get to bottom of the situation

    would I be right to be suspicious I and other people think the same I had rang 1 hospital that he's lives near and they don't have record of anyone by his name

    how can I prove he's lying? and is is illigal? to do what he done?

    Wow, you seem to have a big problem with this person, leave him be. He clearly has his problems & frankly from what you've posted there, with mates like you its no wonder.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Ok, ease up on the op. Constructive and helpful advice, not just bashing. Thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭thefeatheredcat


    would I be right to be suspicious I and other people think the same I had rang 1 hospital that he's lives near and they don't have record of anyone by his name

    how can I prove he's lying? and is is illigal? to do what he done?


    not necessarily, no you may not be right to be suspicious. Even if this friend of yours has a tendency to look for attention, sometimes it does actually happen that the worst can happen to someone. I knew someone before that had a tendency to make up stories to get attention but then one day, something very serious happened to them, and thankfully the right people (myself included) believed them and helped them, while others were less kind, thinking it was just another story they made up.

    There's no guarantee that they went to the local hospital or needed to be admitted to hospital, or indeed that a hospital would be that incompetent to hand out sensitive information to anyone that asks and chances are you were fobbed off for that reason.

    If you want to go out of your way to somehow prove he is lying, then I'm sure it will cost you some friends along the way and make you look awful if indeed the situation is genuine. Even if in the unlikely event it is a lie, people will have been deceived and won't want someone around making noise about it, but should be concerned that someone would have to make up things to get attention and look for their friend to get help for that rather than berate them for it.

    When people attempt suicide, chances are some people will think it attention seeking behaviour, often it is more a cry for help and often the only way out of a situation someone faces if the situation is extreme. If you've ever attempted suicide yourself or known people who have then you would already know that. While it may be one way to express the act on FB only a few close friends will ever know about it anyway, and these will be the ones with open hearts and compassion and understanding. Chances are the family don't want to talk about it with everyone and don't want to discuss a personal matter with all and sundry over the phone and would even go to the point of concealing the fact ever happened.

    Let's put it this way, you weren't with them at the time, but it is kinder to give generous (maybe unnecessary) thoughts to help a friend than to regard them so suspiciously and be unnecessarily unkind.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 16,186 ✭✭✭✭Maple


    No, it's not illegal.

    You might have your suspicions but you don't know 100% what is happening in this person's life. You don't know what his relationship with his parents are.

    For the record, his parents might not know.Also depending on the age of your friend the hospital do not have to inform his parents and yes, they could have easily discharged your friend that morning.

    Just take the story for what it is and stop trying to play amateur detective, your friend deserves some compassion and understanding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Morag


    I suggest you look up para suicide. People that do it, do it as an extreme cry for help when they can't cope any more and want it all to stop and for someone to make it stop and to get help.
    Mental health services in this country suck ass and sometimes the only way for a person to get the ehlp the need is to end up admitted to hospital and get access that way and on the top of lists.

    So you have a 'friend' in a messed up mental and emotional state and the last thing they or thier family need is someone causing them more stress. If you can't be helpful or supportive then keep clear of them,


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