100 marathon club

yantz

Interesting one here,just saw on marathon 100 club FB page their reply to a query regarding two marathons,off road ones.It seems the 100 marathon club have the power to "okay" them and legitimise them even if they, according to a question and answer that they havent been measured properly.One reply was that it measured exactly 26.2 miles on a garmin,which i think is impossible or very lucky.So should marathons that cant be measured or are measured incorectly,such as kinnity marathon,be counted as a marathon?

jeffontour

Clubs should have rules I believe, more to define their objectives and primary function than exclude or include people from membership.

As such I wouldn't be happy being a member of a 100 marathon club if there could be questions asked about one of the routes used to qualify me for membership.

So no, if it's not measured to required standard it shouldn't count.

ThePiedPiper

If it's measured short, then no, it shouldn't count. But anyone who has run 100 marathons with 1 or 2 of them short is very likely to go out and run another 2 to make up the 100.

guapos

slightly off topic. i was talking to a gentleman after the howth imra run on wednesday who had done 3 marathons since last friday and he was hoping that this years dublin marathon would be his 200th. I didnt catch his name, does anyone know him? id love to read more about him.

ICE HOUSE

guapos wrote: »

slightly off topic. i was talking to a gentleman after the howth imra run on wednesday who had done 3 marathons since last friday and he was hoping that this years dublin marathon would be his 200th. I didnt catch his name, does anyone know him? id love to read more about him.

Walter Mitty

Aimman

Sounds like Dave Brady. I seen him at the Salthill Marathon on Easter Monday & Limerick Marathon on the May 1st and then he was heading to Belfast for the marathon the next day.

Think he'll have clocked up his 200th by Dublin at this rate.

Actually, if it was three since last friday, then it was definitely him, he also ran part of the Malin Head to Mizen HEad marathon relay on the Friday, which was a marathon distance.

guapos

Thanks very much. what a legend and no bother to him to go for 8k up the hills a few days later

Magnet

yantz wrote: »

Interesting one here,just saw on marathon 100 club FB page their reply to a query regarding two marathons,off road ones.It seems the 100 marathon club have the power to "okay" them and legitimise them even if they, according to a question and answer that they havent been measured properly.One reply was that it measured exactly 26.2 miles on a garmin,which i think is impossible or very lucky.So should marathons that cant be measured or are measured incorectly,such as kinnity marathon,be counted as a marathon?

From the UK site http://www.100marathonclub.org.uk/

"e) If a race (advertised as a marathon) comes up short, ie. less than 26 miles, then it will be removed from the list of qualifying marathons for future years, although it may be counted for that year"

Also the Kinnity marathon was permitted just that there were too many Chiefs and not enough Indians to know where the route actually started from...:cool:

Oisin11178

Magnet wrote: »

From the UK site http://www.100marathonclub.org.uk/

"e) If a race (advertised as a marathon) comes up short, ie. less than 26 miles, then it will be removed from the list of qualifying marathons for future years, although it may be counted for that year"

Also the Kinnity marathon was permitted just that there were too many Chiefs and not enough Indians to know where the route actually started from...:cool:

Yeah thats deffo dave brady, he was telling me he is due to do 150-160 races this year.
To the guy reckons that kinnity shouldnt count concider this:
I started 2 hours after the rest of the marathon field and did 1 mile more than the rest because i started at a different starting point. Should i count it as an ultra because i did 26.8 miles. The answer is no because it was a marathon. If the organisers make a mistake it should always count if it is just short. Its not the competritors fault.
Just for the record i hope kinnity never had a marathon again it was diabolical:D

clareman07

yantz wrote: »

Interesting one here,just saw on marathon 100 club FB page their reply to a query regarding two marathons,off road ones.It seems the 100 marathon club have the power to "okay" them and legitimise them even if they, according to a question and answer that they havent been measured properly.One reply was that it measured exactly 26.2 miles on a garmin,which i think is impossible or very lucky.So should marathons that cant be measured or are measured incorectly,such as kinnity marathon,be counted as a marathon?

Hi all,
to try and answer some of the comments about 3 marathons in particular, namely Kinnity marathon, Ballyhoura Mountain Marathon Challenge and Clare Burren Marathon Challenge , please read the following.

Kinnity marathon came up short on the day but does count due to 2 reasons.
Firstly being that it was advertised as a full marathon and was not known to be short until after finish line was crossed.
Secondly being that on realiasion of shortness of course marathon participtants ran the extra distance to make up the required distance.
This comes under rule 11.3 on Club page..

11.3 The runner must have completed the whole race entered and have run (jogged, walked) the whole course (unless misdirected by the organisers) for the race to count. For example, dropping out at the marathon distance in an ultra race can not be counted unless this was advertised beforehand as part of the race rules. The declared race distance counts (the runner is not penalised if the race distance appears to be short). However, a runner should not count a race he knows in advance to be short.


With regard to both the other marathons which are classed as trail/off road i would refer you to Rule 11.5

Rule 11.5 Types of races which can be included for club membership
Marathons: Races where the distance measured and stated by organisers is 26m 385y (26.2 miles) / 42.195 km (42.2 kilometres) on the road or, for trail marathons, accepting that exact measurement is not possible, rounded down i.e. 26m or 42km. Races less than marathon distance should not be included.
Ultra Marathons: Road or trail races of distance longer than marathon.Stage Races: Races over several days with a set distance each day. One of the stages must be of marathon distance or longer for the race to count. If two or more stages are of marathon distance or longer and results are published for each stage, then each such stage may be counted separately.
Examples: The Marathon Des Sables usually counts as two events as there is normally one 'long day' further than a marathon distance and a 'marathon day'.
A 100 mile race will count as one event only.
The Brathay 10 marathons in 10 days challenge would count as 10 marathons.
A 24 hour race would count as one event if more than 26 miles 385 yards have been completed.

These guidelines are also used by 100 Club UK.
Hopefully this will explain all and let everyone get back to promoting running as we should.
Pat

yantz

Oisin11178 wrote: »

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To the guy reckons that kinnity shouldnt count concider this:
I started 2 hours after the rest of the marathon field and did 1 mile more than the rest because i started at a different starting point. Should i count it as an ultra because i did 26.8 miles. The answer is no

you shouldnt count it as that would be like some one doing the dublin marathon the day after it strarts and counting as a race...

yantz

clareman07 wrote: »

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Firstly being that it was advertised as a full marathon and was not known to be short until after finish line was crossed.

its still not a marathon whatever way its dressed up..

Zuppy

This is why Athletics Ireland permits are so important. The course is properly measured. This not withstanding some, even worlds, events come up a little long or heaven forbid short.

If your doing a marathon or longer look for the AI permit

Oisin11178

yantz wrote: »

you shouldnt count it as that would be like some one doing the dublin marathon the day after it strarts and counting as a race...

Wrong i did 26.8 miles on the actual course as i started at the half marathon start. I made this arrangment with the organisers as i was going to be late. I did over the required distance on the actual course. Tell me how that does not count?
What are you doing going on about doing the dublin marathon the day after?
Strange.

ultraman1

ZuppyLurk wrote: »

This is why Athletics Ireland permits are so important. The course is properly measured. This not withstanding some, even worlds, events come up a little long or heaven forbid short.

If your doing a marathon look for the AI permit

or longer look elsewhere,but thats another thread

wont comment on the rest,pussy gate is still raw:D

Oisin11178

ultraman1 wrote: »

or longer look elsewhere,but thats another thread

wont comment on the rest,pussy gate is still raw

Get some savlon mate:D

TFBubendorfer

Oisin11178 wrote: »

Wrong i did 26.8 miles on the actual course as i started at the half marathon start. I made this arrangment with the organisers as i was going to be late. I did over the required distance on the actual course. Tell me how that does not count?
What are you doing going on about doing the dublin marathon the day after?
Strange.

Just ignore the troll, mate

Oisin11178

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

Just ignore the troll, mate

Yeah i was thinking troll myself bud. 4 posts on boards and 3 of them in this thread.

menoscemo

ultraman1 wrote: »

pussy gate is still raw:D

:rolleyes: Last week it was cockgate, this week it's pussy gate. you're some messer :P

donothoponpop

There are some messer's on this thread alright. Can we keep the low-level innuendo and point scoring at an even lower level please. I've a fair idea where this is going, and its little to do with running 100 marathons, which I daresay the majority of posters would expect it to be about. Thats said wearing a mod hat.

Zuppy

Just to bring this back on point. Do we expect many Boardies to make it to a 100 marathons this year? Astounding achievement (for those there or heading there). Also with the Irish club, it will be great to see those making 25 and 50 marathons being recognised.

I personally see this benefiting ultra running, I reckon most 100 marathon runners are bound to have a few ultras, or do a few ultras along the way. Drag people to the "dark" side of running. :-)

ultraman1

Oisin11178 wrote: »

I started 2 hours after the rest of the marathon field and did 1 mile more than the rest

oisin just givin u early warnin....kildare starts at 8:00am and is only 26.2 miles long,i dont think ur pacing group will appreciate u using this method;)

Zuppy

ultraman1 wrote: »

oisin just givin u early warnin....kildare starts at 8:00am and is only 26.2 miles long,i dont think ur pacing group will appreciate u using this method;)

But they will get more bang per buck. :D Think how happy you would be to only pay for 26.2 and get an extra 2 for free. :D

Oisin11178

ultraman1 wrote: »

oisin just givin u early warnin....kildare starts at 8:00am and is only 26.2 miles long,i dont think ur pacing group will appreciate u using this method;)

Haha no probs bud anything for you:D