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How do you 'relabel' a car after engine change?

  • 05-05-2011 11:41pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭


    Hi there,
    I might have to engine chance soon, and it'll probably mean a tax bracket change.
    How is this done?
    What checks are there etc
    What about insurance?
    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,733 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Dr Nic wrote: »
    Hi there,
    I might have to engine chance soon, and it'll probably mean a tax bracket change.
    How is this done?
    What checks are there etc
    What about insurance?
    Thanks

    You need to declare the change, here's the form...
    http://www.environ.ie/en/LocalGovernment/MotorTax/PublicationsDocuments/FileDownLoad,495,en.pdf

    You may have problems getting insurance quotes depending on the engine you are changing to. Remember that if you don't declare the change your insurance could be null and void in the event of a crash.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭vetstu


    You could say nothing then put it on Donedeal, as "2 litre, only 1.4 on the log book, cheap to tax and insure"























    :)---Don't do this, it is illegal---:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    I had to replace an engine after it packed in, but just replaced like for like, do I need to make any declarations since nothing spec wise has changed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,733 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    cormie wrote: »
    I had to replace an engine after it packed in, but just replaced like for like, do I need to make any declarations since nothing spec wise has changed?

    Yes its on the same form, should be updatted so logbook engine number then matches. Should be no need to then contact insurance company once engine is identical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Sorry, I can't see any mention of change of engine or any place on the form to put in a new engine number, unless it's to go in the new body type "other" section, but doesn't sound right. So only the engine number needs to be updated in a case like mine you reckon? Engine is in already so I hope it's easy enough to find the number!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 hartnett_mark


    I changed engine in my car and throught one year i ride it without any declarations and changes in documents, i was stopped by garda and they say nothing : ) I don't know maybe i was just lucky enough or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭PaulKK


    I changed engine in my car and throught one year i ride it without any declarations and changes in documents, i was stopped by garda and they say nothing : ) I don't know maybe i was just lucky enough or something.

    Sure how is a gard going to know on the side of the road!?

    He's hardly going to pop the bonnet and compare the engine code to the logbook!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 hartnett_mark


    PaulKK wrote: »
    Sure how is a gard going to know on the side of the road!?

    He's hardly going to pop the bonnet and compare the engine code to the logbook!

    Ok but how many times they check engine numbers??? ;d i have not situation like this ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    The problem is, if you ever had a reason that the insurance company would be involved, they employ people who's job is to find reasons not to pay out. Changing an engine for a bigger one would certainly be non disclosure of performance change. I'm not sure if this applies to simply replacing a like for like engine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    Also, when yougo the sell the car, if the buyer notices that the engine number doesn't match the paperwork it's liable to make them vry suspicious of the car.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 hartnett_mark


    -Chris- wrote: »
    Also, when yougo the sell the car, if the buyer notices that the engine number doesn't match the paperwork it's liable to make them vry suspicious of the car.

    Okay but i don't think that when you change engine you will sell your car instanly... I thought about changing engine for example 1 year before your insurance will end, and when you will have to buy new insurance then you can re-register it.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Okay but i don't think that when you change engine you will sell your car instanly... I thought about changing engine for example 1 year before your insurance will end, and when you will have to buy new insurance then you can re-register it.

    No.

    The onus is firmly on the policyholder to inform the insurer of any "material change" in the nature of the risk. Immediately.

    Failure to do so could jeopardise cover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭jimmyw


    Yeah but if you changed the engine yourself, on that form it has to be stamped by a garage.They could hardly stand over an engine change done by an amateur( even if you think you are great;)) or anther garage.


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