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NCII M.A in CBT

  • 05-05-2011 2:44pm
    #1
    Dellboy2007
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    I am currently looking into this Masters being offered by NCII for someone else. Can anyone shed some light on whether or not it will be recognised by the statutory registration.


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  • #2
    JuliusCaesar
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    Have you seen this?

    There is no MSc in CBT other than the one you mention being offered in less than 2 years. Most see a Masters as being part of a 4 year training programme. Have a look at the Irish Council for Psychotherapy website.


  • #3
    Dellboy2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dellboy2007


    So what exactly are you saying? Because it is shorter it is not as good? I basically want to know whether it's worth it or not. There seems to be a lot of conflicting views on here about whether the organisation is good or bad. Under the National Framework of Qualifications it would seem that the course is 'legitimate'. Surely there has to be recognition given on this basis. If not, wouldn't it bring the whole awarding body, that is HETAC, into disrepute?

    I am in no way defending any organisation nor am I affiliated with any; I am only trying to find out information for someone else.


  • #4
    psychk
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    Hi, I also enquired about that course last year and am currently thinking about it again. I went to an info meeting about it. Seems the course is hetac approved and you can apply to the APCP for accredation afterwards. You do 250 hours or something as work exp for the MA but the ACPP require you to do further experience as far as I know. I was put off when I was told that you had to find your own work exp and pay someone to supervise you for each of your work exp hours,as part of the MA 50 euro a go, but Im making a phone call to them today to ensure I didnt misunderstand.
    Hope this helps


  • #5
    Odysseus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    psychk wrote: »
    Hi, I also enquired about that course last year and am currently thinking about it again. I went to an info meeting about it. Seems the course is hetac approved and you can apply to the APCP for accredation afterwards. You do 250 hours or something as work exp for the MA but the ACPP require you to do further experience as far as I know. I was put off when I was told that you had to find your own work exp and pay someone to supervise you for each of your work exp hours,as part of the MA 50 euro a go, but Im making a phone call to them today to ensure I didnt misunderstand.
    Hope this helps

    I have no time for the ICPA, but in my opinion you would be better off doing a course that you entitle you to become a member of a more established professional body likes the IACP.

    You always pay for your own supervision and person therapy. I was in analysis twice a week for five years and had to pay for my own supervision. during that time.

    I now get supervision from the HSE, but I'm still paying for my APPI supervision. It's also becoming more popular to make students find their own work experience in a lot of courses, which is really a bummer if you are not working in a clinical environment:mad:


  • #6
    JuliusCaesar
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    Odysseus wrote: »
    I have no time for the ICPA, but in my opinion you would be better off doing a course that you entitle you to become a member of a more established professional body likes the IACP.

    You always pay for your own supervision and person therapy. I was in analysis twice a week for five years and had to pay for my own supervision. during that time.

    I now get supervision from the HSE, but I'm still paying for my APPI supervision. It's also becoming more popular to make students find their own work experience in a lot of courses, which is really a bummer if you are not working in a clinical environment:mad:

    Who/what is ICPA?

    Most established CBT courses will provide CBT accredited supervisors. This is usually free of charge to the student. After you qualify, you may have to pay but you might not - in CBT. Most CBT courses provide training to people with existing professional mental health qualifications, and so they usually provide their own placements. This is how it is done in CBT.

    IACP is irrelevant to CBT therapists as we have our own two specialist associations.


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  • #7
    Odysseus
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    Sorry JC I was tired I meant IACP.


  • #8
    JuliusCaesar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    Odysseus wrote: »
    Sorry JC I was tired I meant IACP.
    Odysseus wrote: »
    I have no time for the ICPA, but in my opinion you would be better off doing a course that you entitle you to become a member of a more established professional body likes the IACP.

    Guess you were tired again? :D Which body don't you have time for? Just curious.


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