Stock Shafts No Good?

Zak Flaps

Hi. Am buying some new hybrids next week, and then someone sent me this youtube clip. Am I wasting my time buying from the shops or should I just rush to Foregolf? (ie, is this youtube clip true? Are stock shafts just not up to it? Are we being ripped off?)

kingcobra

If you could tell the difference between a stock shaft and the "original" one I would consider paying for your clubs!
I honestly do not think theres going to be a whole pile of difference between a stock shaft and the non-stock shaft. The stock shaft will still last long enough and sure even if it was custom-fit for you it will work for you regardless.

k.p.h

Been looking into shafts recently as my driver is shaftless .. Its pretty much true .. Their are lots of reasons for it mainly cost, and also because most people are swinging stiff shafts and not able for it so stock stiff shafts have that little bit more flex.

The big manufactures are trying to sell a product at as much profit as possible, to the largest audience. Best way to do that is throw a cheap shaft that suits the majority of the demographic to a certain point.

Thats not to say that the shafts are completely useless but they are far from the best and not sure if it's what you would want on something you just paid 400 bucks for.

Also I'm not sure if you could say being ripped off is what is happening. Minimum current technology shaft is going to cost is 200e (more than likely 300-500). And minimum current driver head is going to cost is 300e. Getting that fitted probably 50e. At that price a decent setup is likely to cost 550-800e. They are probably doing the majority of golfers a favor by throwing something playable on it at a decent price.

All that said you don't need a 200e shaft to be a kicking golfer. But you defiantly need something that suits your swing. The advice I was giving was If a shaft works, it works! Still don't know what I'm going do myself I think I'm just going to flake any ol thing on my driver for now as I'm planning on getting fitted at the end of the season.

Way I'm thinking is if a can't spot manky inconsistencies in my swing I'm hardly going to notice minute differences in a shaft. But if your swinging well and tweaking a setup say the shaft the first place to look.

G1032

Zak Flaps wrote: »

Hi. Am buying some new hybrids next week, and then someone sent me this youtube clip. Am I wasting my time buying from the shops or should I just rush to Foregolf? (ie, is this youtube clip true? Are stock shafts just not up to it? Are we being ripped off?)

Why on earth would a stock shaft not be 'up to it'
The shaft that Foregolf recommend could well be the stock shaft.
You could go for a custom fit and find that the hybrid/driver you own already is the best option for you.
Would you feel ripped off then?

Osgoodisgood

Custom fitting involves trying lots of different options and configurations to work out what is best for you. It's possible that the off-the-shelf configuration is the right one for you but it'd be lucky.

If you don't want to pay for the likes of Foregolf then you would do well to go to one of the driving ranges that allow you to try many different clubs to see for yourself what works.

PAULWATSON

and here was me thinking that you were supposed to swing a golf club.

turns out they are really supposed to be crushed on a vice.

Zak Flaps

Of course the guy in the video is a club fitter, so is trying to drum up some more business for himself. Since my post, I spotted this video being discussed on other forums. Most people seem to think it's b*llsh1t.
And I can see their points.
Besides, my handicap would be around 22, I don't think i should be worrying about shafts at this stage!!

G1032 wrote: »

Why on earth would a stock shaft not be 'up to it'
The shaft that Foregolf recommend could well be the stock shaft.
You could go for a custom fit and find that the hybrid/driver you own already is the best option for you.
Would you feel ripped off then?

http://www.apa.org/topics/anger/control.aspx

bustercherry

Zak Flaps wrote: »

Of course the guy in the video is a club fitter, so is trying to drum up some more business for himself. Since my post, I spotted this video being discussed on other forums. Most people seem to think it's b*llsh1t.
And I can see their points.
Besides, my handicap would be around 22, I don't think i should be worrying about shafts at this stage!!



http://www.apa.org/topics/anger/control.aspx

I could fit you with a brush shaft, charge you 300 bucks and you still wouldn't notice the difference

Zak Flaps

bustercherry wrote: »

I could fit you with a brush shaft, charge you 300 bucks and you still wouldn't notice the difference

You're probably right!!!!:D

k.p.h

Zak Flaps wrote: »

Most people seem to think it's b*llsh1t.

Not good enough most people thinking it. I think if most club makers thought it now that would be a different story.

If the purpose of the thread was to see if this is true the answer is general "yes" ! No point joining in with all the other forums that are in denial. Is it important ? I would so "no"!

While its not bull**** it is irrelevant. Only approximately 5% of golfers break 80 so it's them that need to worrying about it not the general golfing public. Its just good to be in the know

soundsham

Ah b0ll0x .....I never had anything other than a stock shaft and I break 80

If playing well I think you fit your clubs as much as they fit you,sorry if that sounds confusing but what I mean is I generally hit my driver one shape, but I can hit it lower higher or draw it if I'm playing regularly, not all the time but usually , same with 3w and rescue
I also need to swing flat out with my 3w always I can't baby it if you follow
Rescue club is different again I can swing slower or harder giving different results

I suppose what I'm getting at is once the shaft and loft isnt completely wrong for you it should be possible to hit it well

Custom fitted is like the guy wearing the predator boots but is as likely to fall over as to swing in a decent cross .......
Paralysis by analysis.... It's an easy game hit it find it hit it again

k.p.h

soundsham wrote: »

Ah b0ll0x .....I never had anything other than a stock shaft and I break 80

If playing well I think you fit your clubs as much as they fit you,sorry if that sounds confusing but what I mean is I generally hit my driver one shape, but I can hit it lower higher or draw it if I'm playing regularly, not all the time but usually , same with 3w and rescue
I also need to swing flat out with my 3w always I can't baby it if you follow
Rescue club is different again I can swing slower or harder giving different results

I suppose what I'm getting at is once the shaft and loft isnt completely wrong for you it should be possible to hit it well

Custom fitted is like the guy wearing the predator boots but is as likely to fall over as to swing in a decent cross .......
Paralysis by analysis.... It's an easy game hit it find it hit it again

Genuinely glad that works for you. As I said it's what suits you personally is more important.! But that still dose not take away from the fact that shafts are very important. Their are millions spent on research and development in regard to them and when tested in a scientific manner their are differences. :rolleyes:

Osgoodisgood

soundsham wrote: »

Ah b0ll0x .....I never had anything other than a stock shaft and I break 80

It seems that many less gifted individuals, including every professional in the world, require more help than you do to achieve their goals.

It's an easy game hit it find it hit it again

Dear Butch,
You've been rumbled. Suggest you learn to sing or dance.
Regards,
Ossie

truebluechippy

well i was up with the lads in foregolf two weeks ago did a full fit.They do not try push a sale with you they went thought a full set with me the result was my iron shafts that i already have are the best fit for me which are s300 and are stock from mizuno. Now my driver is a different story i tried 18 set ups between shafts and weights and face angle.after all that we found a great setup.

he was telling me that most of the driver shafts that are stock with new clubs and a watered down version of the real shafts

so yeah go get fitted for the new club.

k.p.h

truebluechippy wrote: »

he was telling me that most of the driver shafts that are stock with new clubs and a watered down version of the real shafts

Think that finishes the thread so. Club makers are the people who would know. Got my driver fitter for a shaft friday and my local golf guy agreed also. Their is a difference in quality.

Glad ya got yourself a good setup chippy. Fair play

3qsmavrod5twfe

soundsham wrote: »

It's an easy game hit it find it hit it again

Moe Norman eat your heart out.

My opinion is that that vid is a load of manure, simply trying to drum up business and get people to rush out and change shafts. Look at it again and note the position of the tip of the shaft relative to the vice. The stock shaft that cracks is pulled much further into the vice than the other shaft. It kinda stands to reason if you try and clamp a hollow shaft that has a larger diameter than the vice that something is going to give. All that video proves is that if you clamp a shaft in a vice in the wrong position it will crack.

Granted, stock shafts may not have the exact flex/length you are looking for but I don't think there is fundamentally anything wrong with them as the video is suggesting.