Do you get asked for ID when signing on?

Buratino

Hi all.
Was my first time signing on today (once a month thing). Had driving license in my hand as a proof of ID but then noticed that no one in the queue in front of me was getting asked for one! How does the social officer know that the right person is signing on??? Or is it just our office?
Sorry for silly question...but I really felt like asking the lady I signed on with.:cool:

mvt

Been signing since xmas and never asked but the thing is,they can, so best be prepared

hadepsx

basically they couldnt give a poop:rolleyes:

tipptom

Dont you have to have your national insurance card and she swipes it?.

Lugh Ildanach

The current control mechanism is the Social Welfare card that they issue (or if you haven't received this yet, the temporary card that is issued on a piece of paper, together with photo ID). As you say, it is not particularly secure. You are also asked to sign so they could check signatures against the copy they have on file.

They are in the process of introducing new social welfare cards with photos on them, or at least the last government started the process, I haven't heard anything from the new crowd, although I'd say they would follow through on it as it was in the final stages of being introduced and contracts to print the cards had already been granted.

They also brought in legislation to permit signing on by mobile phone, as they recognise that signing on is not a particularly effective control measure and is a bit of a waste of time and resources. They have however tightened up on paying money directly into accounts and more and more people have to collect their payments in the post office.

tipptom

Does that mean that anybody who was drawing unemployment during the celtic tiger years who are i am sure are not working now, still get their benefit paid direct to their a/c?.

Sir Oxman

tipptom wrote: »

Does that mean that anybody who was drawing unemployment during the celtic tiger years who are i am sure are not working now, still get their benefit paid direct to their a/c?.

I think that is the case, yes.
Unbelievable I know.

Lugh Ildanach

tipptom wrote: »

Does that mean that anybody who was drawing unemployment during the celtic tiger years who are i am sure are not working now, still get their benefit paid direct to their a/c?.

If you were already getting your payment into your account, then you can still have it paid into your account. However, if they have any reason to suspect fraud they can, and DO, change the payment method and make you pick it up at the post office.

tipptom

I just find it ironic that the people who worked their asses of during the boom often for little gain now have to q at heir local post office for payment for the perusal of all and sundry while the ones who sat on their ass during this virtually 100% employment period can still sit on their ass while their money appears in their a/c.Sorry,rant over:mad:

[Jackass]

AND they got a lot more money sitting on their ass during 100% employment than the people who worked for it at the time are getting now.

I think it's disgraceful that you don't require your passport or drivers licence every single time claiming and signing on.

The system is a joke and designed to facilitate fraud. Incompitent civil servants. Just couldn't be arsed doing any job because it literally doesn't matter if they do their job or not. Job safety, hefty pension and overstaffed through the roof, and still don't get anything done and the system and level of service is still a disgrace (in civil service as a whole)

It's funny how they give a 2 hour window a month to sign on too, and close for lunch, open late, close early..it's just laughable.

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I'm off it now thank god, and in fairness, the people I dealt with were nice, I'm more appauled at the system and structure from a senior level (or lack there of) and the civil service culture in this country. I think most civil servants would get a serious culture shock working in the private sector.

mp22

Closed (end of rant)