Where does Fedor rank in your eyes?

average hero

Fedor Emelianenko was the first fighter to bring me into the world of MMA. With his two recent losses, and an upcoming fight, his invincible veneer has worn off. With this being said, the man is a legend.

Where does he stand in your eyes?

SanoVitae

Perhaps not the best HW these days mainly due to the size disadvantage against the likes of Cain and Silva who are equally skilled and weigh much more.

However I still think he's the HW G.O.A.T. - only Big Nog has built a similar legacy in my opinion.

MonkeyBalls

Taking his entire legacy into consideration, best mixed martial artist of all time.

Sid_Justice

Fedor is like zidane. At his prime he was the best in the world at the time, one of the best the world has seen. Probably nearing the end of his career where his limitations have caught up on him (size etc.)

Mellor

In my opinion he was, and still is one of the best Light heavy weights in the world. so good that he chose to beat up havyweights for years.

He'll destroy Hendo inside 2011

Kazooie

Simply, the Greatest Of All Time.

Jason McCabe

Fedor was alway an odd one. He over committed to strikes yet KO'ed guys.
He got dumped on his head by wrestlers and then subbed them and GNPed the best MMA guard players from guard.

I feel his time may be up but a drop to LHW might be the medicine for him.

Very early to say but I think Bones might be the new Fedor.

Ian Whelan

If I was captured by some sub-saharan tribe and I was allowed to pick somebody to fight for my life and my freedom then I would go for Fedor.

vangoz

Ian Whelan wrote: »

If I was captured by some sub-saharan tribe and I was allowed to pick somebody to fight for my life and my freedom then I would go for Fedor.

I'd rather be put to death tbh........ by snu-snu

Zero-Cool

July 30th will see Fedor vs Hendo and honestly I think Hendo is gonna end Fedor's career.

SanoVitae

sheehy83 wrote: »

July 30th will see Fedor vs Hendo and honestly I think Hendo is gonna end Fedor's career.

While I'm a huge Hendo fan, I honestly think Fedor is going to be the first person to knock him out.

If it goes to the ground as I'd expect, I just can't see Hendo surviving Fedor's brutal GnP.

The only way I see Hendo winning is by overhand right or by cuts.

It'll be interesting to see Fedor having the size advantage for once.

vangoz

SanoVitae wrote: »

While I'm a huge Hendo fan, I honestly think Fedor is going to be the first person to knock him out.

If it goes to the ground as I'd expect, I just can't see Hendo surviving Fedor's brutal GnP.

The only way I see Hendo winning is by overhand right or by cuts.

It'll be interesting to see Fedor having the size advantage for once.

I've no idea who to root for in this one.... I'm a big fan of both fighters. It should be a great war, both lads always bring it. It would be very surreal to see either K.O.ed though.

I see Fedor surviving an early scare and winning the fight via close decision.

SanoVitae

If Fedor does lose, it'll definitely be time for him to retire.

But I think there's a lot left in him and it's simply down to desire. The fact that he's gone to Holland to prepare for the fight is encouraging.

The pressure is off Fedor now and the same people who were spouting all the "unbeatable Russian cyborg" nonsense are now writing him off. I think he'll thrive.

chopperbyrne

Jason McCabe wrote: »

I feel his time may be up but a drop to LHW might be the medicine for him.

Can't see him ever being able to cut down to LHW.

He may not be a big HW, but he's naturally that weight and has never looked ripped or cut in his career.

Jason McCabe

A couple of weeks off the potato soup on a proper nutritional plan then he would make LHW no problem.

Bones is a much bigger man and makes the cut.


I do beleive though we have a better quality of athlete coming into the sport and the standard may have raised to the point where as good as Fedor was he didn't adapt enough.

The thing is though Dan is sorta old school like Fedor. I really like both a lot but would place my money on Fedor.

Sid_Justice

would love to see fedor and hendo on the big ufc rio card.

Xlami

He always relied on his speed heavily but now I think he's finished. I can't see him beating Hendo and who would they put him up against in the UFC. So many people love Fedor and I doubt they will want to watch the likes of Brendan Schuab and Pat Barry smack him around. A great fighter but another one of the guys who's been passed out by the evolving sport of MMA.

Mellor

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Can't see him ever being able to cut down to LHW.

He may not be a big HW, but he's naturally that weight and has never looked ripped or cut in his career.

He doesn't need to get ripped to make LHW. Ripped means losing lots of body fat.
He is 230lbs max. He could get down to 205 by cutting water alone, a smarter way would be to drop some fat and do the rest with water cutting.

Jason McCabe wrote: »

Bones is a much bigger man and makes the cut.

Bones isn't bigger.
He's tall with a massive reach, but in terms of over mass he is not that big for a LHW, about 220lbs

cowzerp

At Heavyweight he's finished, unless he fights the other small heavyweights out there-At Lightheavy i still think he could be the man..

The heavies have just evolved physically too much nad are also technically efficent

Tones69

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Can't see him ever being able to cut down to LHW.

He may not be a big HW, but he's naturally that weight and has never looked ripped or cut in his career.

Dude hes 235-238 and has a lot of BF on him, can get the 205 all day long, and we'l see that, I just think he liked having the speed advantage over the past while fighting non top 10 heavyweights who couldnt match him, the man handling he got off Antonio silva obviously woke him up that he shouldnt be at heavyweight, be interesting to see hmi at lhw now but im gonna be shouting for hendo on this one..
Fedors a serious man to go no doubt about it and has the ground skills to match but i dont think he would last one round with the top 5 UFC HW's, just my opinion of course

Mellor

Tones69 wrote: »

Dude hes 235-238 and has a lot of BF on him, can get the 205 all day long,

He weigh-in in at 230 vrs Silva
for the Rogers fight he was 232 and he kept his jeans on.
205 would be a breeze for him

Bagels90

in my opinion fedor was around at the wrong time. the chap is a legend of the sport and one of the best in the world but for me not the best. however now that the sport is more popular than ever hes in the limelight more so hes facing more criticism. hes facing arguably tougher opposition now than before while advancing in age. if he was at his peak now and not in the past id say he'd run through the HW division

He may have took a bit of a beating in his last fight, but I think the Werdum fight was just a bad decision to follow (him) to the ground.

He didn't even take a punch, just got sloppy.

MMAIRELANDFAN

Brock number 1
Cain 2
Juniour 3
Carwin 4
Mir 5
Maybe Fedor 6 and he would never have bet any of these.

Xlami

MMAIRELANDFAN wrote: »

Brock number 1
Cain 2
Juniour 3
Carwin 4
Mir 5
Maybe Fedor 6 and he would never have bet any of these.

Sorry but how does Brock rank above Cain after their last fight. What would Velasquez have to do to get ahead of him, beat him in the first round a few more times? Do you not think the Reem deserves a spot in the top 6. Also you have Fedor ranked ahead of two people who beat him convincingly.

cowzerp

In all these only Mir is below lesnar and in theory carwin too, theory i said!! overeem I'd put higher too but I still think he needs to face better opposition to prove it.

ScareGilly

Xlami wrote: »

Sorry but how does Brock rank above Cain after their last fight. What would Velasquez have to do to get ahead of him, beat him in the first round a few more times? Do you not think the Reem deserves a spot in the top 6. Also you have Fedor ranked ahead of two people who beat him convincingly.

Don't even bother replying, he's been trolling the forum since he came..

Trollololol

cowzerp

ScareGilly wrote: »

Don't even bother replying, he's been trolling the forum since he came..

Trollololol

All joking aside but report him if he breaks the charter, not 1 report and as much as he comes across negative at times there is nothing that warrants warnings etc, you on the other hand calling people trolls could get infracted, your not but next time you will, thanks.

MMAIRELANDFAN

ScareGilly wrote: »

Don't even bother replying, he's been trolling the forum since he came..

Trollololol

Sorry i'm not scared to call things as i see it on here
i will follow the rules and am entitled to my opinions which i will qualify if questioned

Dont get on that much but i will come back to it after a few days at worst.

Also im sure you calling me a troll is breaking the rules.

Xlami wrote: »

Sorry but how does Brock rank above Cain after their last fight. What would Velasquez have to do to get ahead of him, beat him in the first round a few more times?

I switch the order so
Cain is ahead of Brock till he's back

Xlami

ScareGilly wrote: »

Don't even bother replying, he's been trolling the forum since he came..

Trollololol

Thanks for the warning. I appolgise for my rookie mistake.

SDTimeout

MMAIRELANDFAN wrote: »

Sorry i'm not scared to call things as i see it on here
i will follow the rules and am entitled to my opinions which i will qualify if questioned

Dont get on that much but i will come back to it after a few days at worst.

Also im sure you calling me a troll is breaking the rules.




I switch the order so
Cain is ahead of Brock till he's back

Why though, explain via logic how Brock would be ahead of Cain if he comes back.

MMAIRELANDFAN

SDTimeout wrote: »

Why though, explain via logic how Brock would be ahead of Cain if he comes back.

He fought bad that day
off day and cain had a top day
both on form and Brock will out wrestle him easily
Im a big fan so am biased

jimpump

Fedor is no.1 P4P of all time

but anderson and GSPyawn are catching up

at the moment in the HW division,id have Fedor at no.5 behind Cain V, JDS, Ubereem and Werdum

the reason Big Foot Silva aint in me top 5 is cos he 'beat' Fedor over a doctor stoppage. who can really say what would have happened if Fedor was allowed to fight in the 3rd round

jimpump

MMAIRELANDFAN wrote: »

He fought bad that day
off day and cain had a top day
both on form and Brock will out wrestle him easily
Im a big fan so am biased

btw pal, brock aint even in the top 10 HW's

hes beatin an over the hill heath herring,overated Mir, OAP Randy Couture and a gassed Carwin.

brock is not even in the top 30 HW's of all time

think ya should go back watching WWE cos ya obviously dont know MMA if ya think brock can beat cain v.

he might have a chance against the undertaker or john cena at the next wrestlemania but he aint gonna be challenging for any MMA title again

pablohoney87

jimpump wrote: »

Fedor is no.1 P4P of all time

but anderson and GSPyawn are catching up

at the moment in the HW division,id have Fedor at no.5 behind Cain V, JDS, Ubereem and Werdum

the reason Big Foot Silva aint in me top 5 is cos he 'beat' Fedor over a doctor stoppage. who can really say what would have happened if Fedor was allowed to fight in the 3rd round

Beating him is beating him. TBH its nearly impossible to be in the top 5 after 2 losses in a row.
1. Cain
2.Overeem
3.JDS
4.Werdum
5.Bigfoot
6.Brock (sorry to say but he's there)
7.Fedor/Carwin
8.Mir
9.Nelson
10.Schaub/Nog(depending who wins) or even Mitrione (if he wins his next 2) or josh barnett since hes back from suspension

Xlami

pablohoney87 wrote: »

Beating him is beating him. TBH its nearly impossible to be in the top 5 after 2 losses in a row.
1. Cain
2.Overeem
3.JDS
4.Werdum
5.Bigfoot
6.Brock (sorry to say but he's there)
7.Fedor/Carwin
8.Mir
9.Nelson
10.Schaub/Nog(depending who wins) or even Mitrione (if he wins his next 2) or josh barnett since hes back from suspension

Overeem is my second favorite Heavyweight only behind Pat Barry. I'm a huge fan and think he deffinitely will be number one or two someday I can't justify putting him in the top 5 at the minute. Obviously his K1 achievements are incredible and as I say while I beleive he will be top 5 I don't think he's there yet. He's never beaten a fighter who was a current top 10 (Arguably Top 15) and it is for this reasons I would not have him in my top 5. But as I said I expect him to win the GP if it goes ahead and think he's the fighter with the best chance of beating Cain.

MMAIRELANDFAN

Xlami wrote: »

Overeem is my second favorite Heavyweight only behind Pat Barry..

Cant argue with your post but Brock would beat both easily

GNP 101

The Bored One

MMAIRELANDFAN wrote: »

Cant argue with your post but Brock would beat both easily

GNP 101

Brock vs Overeem I'd have to file under the heading Not Enough Data. Overeems take down defence at his current weight is a big question mark. If its good enough to deal with Brocks wrestling, then he punches Brock in the face standing. If its not, Brock probably punches Overeem in the face on the ground.
Without Overeems wreslting being tested beforehand, no real way of calling it.

Xlami

MMAIRELANDFAN wrote: »

Cant argue with your post but Brock would beat both easily

GNP 101

When did I once say either of them would beat Brock?

Sid_Justice

overeem would kick brock's head off

pablohoney87

Sid_Justice wrote: »

overeem would kick brock's head off

You couldnt be more wrong Sid.:mad:
He would KNEE his FACE off.:D

Sid_Justice

I actually was going to rephrase that, I can't remember overeem kicking anyone in the head ever! Has he?

hisholinessnb

jimpump wrote: »

btw pal, brock aint even in the top 10 HW's

In all fairness, even given how so many people dislike Brock,that's ridiculous.

How you can you from being the UFC champ to being outside the top ten in one single fight is beyond me.

Fedor is no1 of all time, but currently would be around no 6 or 7.