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Amazing TU-154 footage

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭iPlop


    At least they got it down safely ,that was crazy fair play to the pilots.What is it with the TU-154 and crashing? It seems to be addicted to it.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Andrew33


    Don't believe everything you see, particularly on t'internet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭iPlop


    Andrew33 wrote: »
    Don't believe everything you see, particularly on t'internet.

    Why? have you more information on this particular incident?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭kurant


    Its real flight! TU was not used for 10 years. and it was controlled by pilots hands as all electronic staff failed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Blue Punto


    my initial thought is why on earth would somebody want to put a 154 in the air again after ten years of storage when there are plenty of airframes with muchless downtime available


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,184 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Blue Punto wrote: »
    my initial thought is why on earth would somebody want to put a 154 in the air again after ten years of storage when there are plenty of airframes with muchless downtime available

    I'd assume a 154 that had been stored for ten years is EXTREMELY cheap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Blue Punto


    MYOB wrote: »
    I'd assume a 154 that had been stored for ten years is EXTREMELY cheap.


    Id assume any 154 is EXTREMELY CHEAP

    Seeing as the cant be used in to many places anymore

    Ive seen the video but im scepitcal about the story behind it.I dont speak russian so cant read the forum it is linked too


    Id be suprised if you could give away a 154 in Russia that had been in storage that long and then again the question why try and make it airworthy(and if the vid is genuine they failed)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭kurant


    Blue Punto wrote: »
    Id assume any 154 is EXTREMELY CHEAP

    Seeing as the cant be used in to many places anymore

    Ive seen the video but im scepitcal about the story behind it.I dont speak russian so cant read the forum it is linked too


    Id be suprised if you could give away a 154 in Russia that had been in storage that long and then again the question why try and make it airworthy(and if the vid is genuine they failed)

    I speak russian ;) but there is nothing about reason to take this TU back to live. it was on military airport. I think just one stupid decision of one stupid man who want make more money from it :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭Nforce


    Why? have you more information on this particular incident?

    Have a look at the video on this link... http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=951730

    ;)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,646 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I think he's got something, there.

    NTM


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Blue Punto


    Nforce wrote: »
    Have a look at the video on this link... http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=951730

    ;)


    Thread Killer LOL


    thought as much :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Andrew33


    Why? have you more information on this particular incident?

    I didn't know anything about the RC video but it vindicates my instinct about the vid posted by OP. It just looked all wrong (ridiculous yaw angles, crap filming etc). As I said, Don't believe everything you see;)

    Rgds
    Andrew


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭iPlop


    Andrew33 wrote: »
    I didn't know anything about the RC video but it vindicates my instinct about the vid posted by OP. It just looked all wrong (ridiculous yaw angles, crap filming etc). As I said, Don't believe everything you see;)

    Rgds
    Andrew

    Rc aircraft never even entered my mind ,but now after looking again, yeah it does look fake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭MicK10rt


    ahh well.. Il admit defeat.. Thanks Andrew33 and Nforce for clearing dat up.. Have to say it fooled me.. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭Nforce


    If it were real the rate of decent and extreme crab angle would have ripped off the landing gear at the very least. What also got me suspicious was the delay between the aircraft "touching down" behind the trees until it's reappearance (at a much slower speed) later in the video.

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Ilyushin76


    Some pictures here.Looks pretty real and picture 11 has smoke coming from the landing gear,hard to know though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭Nforce


    John85 wrote: »
    Some pictures here.Looks pretty real and picture 11 has smoke coming from the landing gear,hard to know though.


    Photoshop ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭westdub


    Well if it was a real aircraft that was in trouble there seem to be no smoke from the engines....

    Here is what it should look like....

    http://youtu.be/wd-ViJQevr4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Blue Punto


    OK as I said already Im not convinced but I done a little research and there are pics of the aircraft without engines dating back to 2006 on airliners.net

    the aircraft RA-85563 was said to have been reactivated and was on its first flight
    video of it taking off below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP5uLDnUOdI&NR=1

    Its all over the news in Russia with news stations saying investigations are underway to find out what happened

    JACDEC have it listed as an official incident and they are normally pretty good with information
    http://www.jacdec.de/news/news.htm


    I dont know :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Andrew33


    Blue Punto wrote: »
    OK as I said already Im not convinced but I done a little research and there are pics of the aircraft without engines dating back to 2006 on airliners.net

    the aircraft RA-85563 was said to have been reactivated and was on its first flight
    video of it taking off below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP5uLDnUOdI&NR=1

    Its all over the news in Russia with news stations saying investigations are underway to find out what happened

    JACDEC have it listed as an official incident and they are normally pretty good with information
    http://www.jacdec.de/news/news.htm


    I dont know :confused:

    The bones of the original story are possibly true and makers of vid have spliced into this story to give the vid cred perhaps.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,646 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Blue Punto wrote: »
    OK as I said already Im not convinced but I done a little research and there are pics of the aircraft without engines dating back to 2006 on airliners.net

    the aircraft RA-85563 was said to have been reactivated and was on its first flight
    video of it taking off below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP5uLDnUOdI&NR=1

    Its all over the news in Russia with news stations saying investigations are underway to find out what happened

    JACDEC have it listed as an official incident and they are normally pretty good with information
    http://www.jacdec.de/news/news.htm


    I dont know :confused:

    I recall many of the news stations were reporting on the capture of an American soldier, only to discover after a couple of days that the soldier in question was an action figure named 'Cody'.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/01/iraq/main670972.shtml

    Wasn't even a very persuasive photo.
    image670866g.jpg

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Reoil


    The plane in the OP isn't a model plane, the physics would suggest that it is a real plane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭lintdrummer


    Reoil wrote: »
    The plane in the OP isn't a model plane, the physics would suggest that it is a real plane.

    I'd agree with that. From my experience with model aircraft that is not behaving like an RC plane. If indeed there is trickery involved then it is very well done indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Reoil


    I'd agree with that. From my experience with model aircraft that is not behaving like an RC plane. If indeed there is trickery involved then it is very well done indeed.

    Plus, a RC plane wouldn't be allowed to land on a runway. Likewise, it wouldn't appear to be the same size as the other planes on the runway... ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    I think the video camera must have been in storage for ten years also as it was also apparently difficult to control :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Ilyushin76


    News story here

    "The spokesman for the chief military prosecutor's office told RIA Novosti that the plane's steering system had malfunctioned and praised the pilots for managing to land safely in a built-up area."

    Surely if he said that and that Russia launched an investigation its hardly fake.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    Sorry I don't believe this video and it will take more than a singaporean newspaper article to convince me. I dont' believe that a) a plane would stay in the air with those movements - surely it would stall/spin/fall out of the sky and b) If it were real I don't believe a pilot could control such a plane to land it if it were in the air.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Blue Punto


    ok after more investigation I found this

    Pictures of the actual touch down
    http://photo.qip.ru/users/neustaf.fotoplenka/151028556/168446695/#mainImageLink

    And more incredibly VIDEO of the touchdown from the other side of the airfield
    (you can hear the anguish in the peoples voice who are watching)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOfIj17WJBw&feature=player_embedded

    It turns out the military prosecutors office is investigating the incident and the running of the airbase

    Ive changed my opinion somehow I think this did happen:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭lintdrummer


    I'm looking forward to seeing the National Geographic Channel's "Air Crash Investigation" on this one! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭kurant


    I'm looking forward to seeing the National Geographic Channel's "Air Crash Investigation" on this one! :D

    there was no crash! just test and they landed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭AfterDusk


    kurant wrote: »
    there was no crash! just test and they landed

    There are plenty of Air Crash Investigation episodes which don't involve crashes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    So it's been reported on BBC now:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13286479

    Goddammit I'm going to have to retract my skepticism


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭MicK10rt


    I had a gut feeling it was real.. i dont feel so stupid now :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    I finally got a chance to look at this video. That's not a model, it's obeying the laws of physics for a large aircraft. Probably a combination of rudder damper failure and pilot error. Dutch roll doesn't go away until the pilot stops making control inputs.


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