Australian Skilled Occupations List

temana

Hi All,

I am seriously considering moving out to Australia. I am a recent graduate with limited work experience, but do have a 1st class honours business and languages degree (4 years).

I was looking at the Australian Skilled Occupations List the other day and although there are tons of occupations, in the business / marketing sector the job discriptions are fairly limited.

I'm just wondering, if I am a 'Marketing Assistant' for example, can I apply as a 'Marketing Specialist' as is listed on the occupations list?

Will it be good enough if my current job title is somewhat-related to those on the skilled occupations list, or does it have to be strictly the same?

Thanks in advance for any help!

rightyabe

I would say your best chance would be a employer sponsored visa.

hussey

You won't qualify if you have no or little experience, have you looked at a WHV? what age are you?

temana

I have already done a WHV... I'm 27. Under the current points system I wouldn't qualify as I have to have 1 year's professional experience as far as I know. But, from July 1st this year there is a new points system being brought in.

I think with the new system they value work experience or higher education (or both) and while points are not attributed to your proffesion, you still have to designate a profession on the skilled occupations list. Apparently the new pass mark is 65 points which I would pass through points for age, having a degree and level of english, but Im not sure if I would have to have work experience as well?

Here is the link for the new points system;

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/points-fact.pdf

(not sure if its ok to post links on this forum?)

mandrake04

Before you can apply you still need to obtain a postive skills assessment with an occupation on the SOL, once you have that you then got the green light to apply for the visa.

rightyabe

From that i would guess you would get at most 60 points thats if you get over 8.0 in all 4 catogories on the ILETS(20 points)

I would suggest get your qualifaction assessed firstly, then possibbly try and get state sponsorship for 5-10 more points depending if in regional or not.

temana

ILETS? But English is my native language... Im completely fluent. I don't think Irish, English, US etc.. citizens need to take the ILETS test for emmigrating to Australia?

At the moment I would get 65 points (30 for age, 20 for 'superior english' and 15 for holding a degree) but Im still unsure if I would have to have a couple years work experience aswell?

Thanks for your advice though, much appreciated! I guss the next step would be to go and do a skills assessment. Anyone know where I go to do this?

rightyabe

temana wrote: »

ILETS? But English is my native language... Im completely fluent. I don't think Irish, English, US etc.. citizens need to take the ILETS test for emmigrating to Australia?

At the moment I would get 65 points (30 for age, 20 for 'superior english' and 15 for holding a degree) but Im still unsure if I would have to have a couple years work experience aswell?

Thanks for your advice though, much appreciated! I guss the next step would be to go and do a skills assessment. Anyone know where I go to do this?

As it stands now you would get competent english not superior...but come 1st july everyone applying will have to do a ILETS no matter what nationality. And yes sorry you would get 15 for your degree.

So unless you can get over 8.0 in all 4 areas(Not a average) you should get your 65 points. But if you only get over 7.0 in all 4 areas you would only get 55 points so State sponsorship would be required. In my opinion.

willowthewisp

By the way guys, how many points do you need to qualify?

temana

If I remember right I think the points system that is in place now is set at 120. But, come july 1st this year, there is a new points system being implemented and they reckon the pass mark will be set at 65 points... it can also be a much fairer system depending on your backround.

mandrake04

As a native speaker (by holding a Irish/British/USA/Canadian passport) you get the default 0 points as just being competent.

You could get 5 points for having 3 years out of the last 5 work experience.

You could get state sponsored but you guessed it....there is a work experience requirement for that as well.

temana

mandrake04 wrote: »

As a native speaker (by holding a Irish/British/USA/Canadian passport) you get the default 0 points as just being competent.

You could get 5 points for having 3 years out of the last 5 work experience.

You could get state sponsored but you guessed it....there is a work experience requirement for that as well.

Is this under the current points system? Its seems that under the new system that an Irish passport holder would get the full 20 points for having 'superior english'.

mandrake04

temana wrote: »

Is this under the current points system? Its seems that under the new system that an Irish passport holder would get the full 20 points for having 'superior english'.

:D

Where exactly does it say that?

Is there a new minimum English language requirement?

For all skilled migration points tested visas the threshold English language requirement will be Competent English, which is a minimum score of 6 in each of the four components of the International English Language Testing System (IELTS) test. No points will be awarded for English language where an applicant has Competent English.

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/points-testfaq.pdf

Having the passport you are only deemed competent or equal to getting 6.0 in each band


Under the current system having a passport (6.0) only gives 15 points, Proficient (Doing IELTS and getting at least 7.0 in each band) = 25. The superior English is only new.

Don't make the mistake of assuming that as a native speaker you are going to get Superior full points.

temana

mandrake04 wrote: »

:D

Where exactly does it say that?



http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/points-testfaq.pdf

Having the passport you are only deemed competent or equal to getting 6.0 in each band


Under the current system having a passport (6.0) only gives 15 points, Proficient (Doing IELTS and getting at least 7.0 in each band) = 25. The superior English is only new.

Don't make the mistake of assuming that as a native speaker you are going to get Superior full points.

It doesn't say it anywhere. But, you could be forgiven for assuming that a native english speaker (educated etc) would be expected to score high enough to be deemed as having superior english under the new points system.

Of course, I understand that merely holding a passport doen't guarantee you will have superior english, but as a native speaker, also with a high level of 'business english' I reckon I could pull it off!!

In line with my original question, (under the new system) does anyone know how much work experience it is necessary to have in a particular occupation to apply or could you substitute higher education for work experience?

hussey

temana wrote: »

In line with my original question, (under the new system) does anyone know how much work experience it is necessary to have in a particular occupation to apply or could you substitute higher education for work experience?

No you can't really swap education for work experience, well towards your points anyway, you prob could with skills assessment
have a look here in regards to the points system

mandrake04

temana wrote: »

It doesn't say it anywhere. But, you could be forgiven for assuming that a native english speaker (educated etc) would be expected to score high enough to be deemed as having superior english under the new points system.

Of course, I understand that merely holding a passport doen't guarantee you will have superior english, but as a native speaker, also with a high level of 'business english' I reckon I could pull it off!!

Frankly when it comes to DIAC I would assume nothing, just read the website its all there.

Personally I could not say how easy or hard IELTS is because I didn't have to do it, have a look at some IELTS threads on pomsinoz.com or britishexpats.com there are plenty of English people who required 7.0 for State sponsorship or because they are short of points. Embarrassingly I even read about an English teacher from the UK fail 7.0 in each band, she got something like 9.0 8.5 6.5 9.0 and still failed the lot.

temana wrote: »

In line with my original question, (under the new system) does anyone know how much work experience it is necessary to have in a particular occupation to apply or could you substitute higher education for work experience?

Depends on the assessing body some require 3 years, some require 2 years think only a few require less than that.