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Cornmaket bar re opening again?

  • 28-04-2011 7:51pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭


    Anyone hear its reopening again with new owners?Think its opening this weekend for the Coronas gig


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭SuperWoody101


    Fine bar but they just can't seem to make it work, but of luck to the who ever taking it over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Fine bar but they just can't seem to make it work, but of luck to the who ever taking it over.

    Good luck to them but personally think it's badly laid out, course, I haven't been there in ages, maybe it's all changed. Would be great if the Market Quarter concept started to catch on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Found myself when it first opened it got a bad name for the the crowd it used to let in and never recovered from that. Lovely pub though...its amazing what a name change and a slight revamp can do. No reason it couldn't be successful if they did this in my opinion, just look at the office, its pretty much the same pub it was 6 months ago but is absolutely packed on Saturday nights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭savagecabbages


    Bourkes is another prime example, a far cry from O'Riadas that closed a few years ago in the same place.

    I think the Cornmarket is doomed unless it gets a complete change of identity.
    Best of luck + fair play to whoever is taking it on again there is serious potential there, but opening again as the 'Cornmarket' will draw the exact same people back there and lead down the same road...

    [i'm assuming its opening again as the Cornmarket, haven't heard otherwise]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Bourkes is another prime example, a far cry from O'Riadas that closed a few years ago in the same place.

    I think the Cornmarket is doomed unless it gets a complete change of identity.
    Best of luck + fair play to whoever is taking it on again there is serious potential there, but opening again as the 'Cornmarket' will draw the exact same people back there and lead down the same road...

    [i'm assuming its opening again as the Cornmarket, haven't heard otherwise]

    I'd agree with that, comes down to door policy though. Loads of pubs in that area have never had much hassle or much of a bad crowd, what was it about the Cornmarket that doomed it from the off? Personally I blame booking Aslan for the opening act, an ill-fated move if ever there was one.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    The brother looked at leasing it,its a huge bar to fill,if it didny fill in the celtic tiger the new owners will find it hard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    terrible lay out, and devoid of any charm.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    Think they want to go after the Symths/icon crowd at the weekend and students mid week with dirt cheap drink


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    so its just gonna be another kip then. newsflash for them, the students bring their own drink, get to town late and dont spend. weekend folk who are just lookign for the cheapest drink... you get the bitter end type crowd, and the type of crowd that place was getting before, and you dont last long with that type of crowd in a venue that size


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    Its licenced for nearly 800 people


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    zuroph wrote: »
    so its just gonna be another kip then. newsflash for them, the students bring their own drink, get to town late and dont spend. weekend folk who are just lookign for the cheapest drink... you get the bitter end type crowd, and the type of crowd that place was getting before, and you dont last long with that type of crowd in a venue that size

    Yeah, the place needs to have it's own charms to sell the place. It's something that Flannery's on Catherine street have finally learned. They've remodeled it and given it a more less "devoid of all life and goodness" feel.

    If you had the choice of bars in the Market area, what would make you want to go to the Cornmarket, as it was? Nothing really, it was a bland, awkwardly laid out (seats that bit too high, tables that bit too big, couches too deep to sit back into, pillars in the way etc). Just a disaster really.

    Some bars just have bad lay-outs. I'd put Bakers and the Cuckoo Box up there too. The vibe, for want of a better word, is/was just off in them. Then again, I'm more of a Curragower/Mickey Martins/Tom Collins kid of guy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    The new owners will hardly revamp what is really a brand new pub


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    bigpink wrote: »
    The new owners will hardly revamp what is really a brand new pub

    Why not?

    Surely if the new owners have any sense they'll see the pub is poorly laid out and do whatever they can to improve it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    They may not have enough money to revamp just open it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    bigpink wrote: »
    They may not have enough money to revamp just open it

    Who knows, you'll have to ask whoever told you it was reopening and report back here.

    It's a pity, for the Market Quarter to succeed it needs as many pubs and restaurants as possible.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    It has the busiest places,needs some small pubs and differnet pubs not all super/disco bars

    Hope they make it a cool bar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    they'd need to build some walls, at the moment its a warehouse with furniture in it, utterly charmless, just smacks of "pack em in".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    It has serious potential to be one of the best bars in Limerick. And when it opened first was very nice, went in quite often, then the door policy changed and so did the clientele - hence why so many have said it closed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭savagecabbages


    Yeah it wasn't so much the door staff, more the door policy changing that instigated its downfall...

    God the thoughts of a giant Bitter End almost gives me nightmares!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Yeah it wasn't so much the door staff, more the door policy changing that instigated its downfall...

    God the thoughts of a giant Bitter End almost gives me nightmares!

    Would be interesting to see what a different design could do for the place. Nancies is well laid out in that even when it's not busy you can go into the old bar and it seems busy.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    Big bar to fill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭savagecabbages


    A different layout/identity and theres serious potential. Simply reopening a place with a bad reputation isn't going to be anything but misery for the owner.

    A small front area (for the quiet nights) with the option to open up a back/upstairs area seems to be the magic solution for a large busy bar. Nancys as mentioned being the prime example.
    Flannerys and the (old?!?) Cornmarket being the opposite! Tumbleweed rolling around those places on a quiet night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    It opened and was quite enjoyable but very quickly got a bad crowd and the normal punter just gave up on it, very hard to recover.

    But still Symths is one of the worst bars in Limerick with the worst doormen and its still packed. So who knows the secret.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    The Walkabout bars in the UK are a prime example of what can be done with it. A few I have been in have been small for small crowds and when big matches or that are on they open up the rest of it. There is always good craic in there and great promotions on drink. The last time I was in one it was 10% off drink for Munster fans :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,106 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    Somewhere like this place would be great in Limerick,if I had the money I'd do it myself :)

    http://www.fxbrestaurants.com/bullcastle/home.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭savagecabbages


    But still Symths is one of the worst bars in Limerick with the worst doormen and its still packed. So who knows the secret.

    Bands 6 nights, cheap drink, and most of all Icon upstairs! Smyths has absolutely no redeeming features to it as a pub...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    The continued existence of Smyths is a mystery to me, tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭Itsdacraic


    The continued existence of Smyths is a mystery to me, tbh.

    convenience.

    Prick of a spot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Trhiggy83


    Didnt realise it was even closed, fine floor area though could be used as a good sports bar with lots of tvs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The continued existence of Smyths is a mystery to me, tbh.

    Some people would say the same about Nancy's, etc. It's down to personal choice. I've no time for either place as they are cattlemarkets at weekends but alot of people do like to go to them and spend their money. Making money is why these places are around so long.


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