careers for graduates?

corkman123

I am have just finished first year of my three year undergraduate course doing geography and irish studies, and i knw these arent related with aviation/ management but i have always wanted a career in the aviation industry was wondering if anyone would be able to guide me in the right direction as to where to go from after my course, as in interships etc

A320

Geography and Aviation,your probably talking maps,so Ordnance Survey Ireland or even the IAA would be the closest i could link!!!

corkman123

cheers.. id ideally wana get into management.. so prob would have to do a diploma or any aviation postgrad courses?

Delta Kilo

I think DCU do a postgrad in business management.

UL does one aswell but i believe it is aimed at those already working in the industry.

donkey balls

Speaking from experience working in mgmt within the aviation sector most mgmt jobs tend to go internally or like me they work there way up the ladder,People who get jobs in upper mgmt normally have a track record within in the industry and tend to have contacts you would be surprised how small the industry is.;)
I dont know of any course that has landed someone into a mgmt position within the aviation sector most station ops managers that I worked along with worked there way up from whse operatives/baggage handlers including myself.

corkman123

ah rite... ye it makes sense alright... just worried though cause im not doin a business/management degree, but i did get grade A business in the lc if that would help

n.catenthusiast

DAA have a graduate programme that's been taking people in the last 4 years. No idea if they've plans for 2011.

it's specifically aimed at getting 'manager potential' all rounded graduates, so while you're degree mightn't help you in the recruitment process, it shouldn't hinder you either...



http://www.dublinairportauthority.com/human-resources/graduate_2010.html

Jim236

If you want to work in aviation I'd say your best bet is to do a 4 year honours degree course in aviation management in DCU or transport operations & technology in DIT. Otherwise you're gonna struggle with just an ordinary degree in geography & irish studies.

Darius.Tr

There's also a new course in DIT aviation technology that involves managment, but i think its more of an engineering course than managment. DCU would be the best option for you i heard pretty good things about it...

Jim236

Darius.Tr wrote: »

There's also a new course in DIT aviation technology that involves managment, but i think its more of an engineering course than managment. DCU would be the best option for you i heard pretty good things about it...

The Aviation Technology course is a management course as well, but its only an orindary degree.

rallye150flyer

im doing the dcu course at the min and for management jobs this seems to be quite well supported by industry particularly the daa, aer arann, and to some degree aer lingus. here is a promo video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj-GIU62uHM

!MAVERICK!

corkman123 wrote: »

I am have just finished first year of my three year undergraduate course doing geography and irish studies, and i knw these arent related with aviation/ management but i have always wanted a career in the aviation industry was wondering if anyone would be able to guide me in the right direction as to where to go from after my course, as in interships etc

If you actually wanted to find a job in aviation then why did you pick geography and Irish? Why are you asking for advice on a career your not even preparing for? And you can forget about internships in aviation good luck finding one!

!MAVERICK!

Jim236 wrote: »

If you want to work in aviation I'd say your best bet is to do a 4 year honours degree course in aviation management in DCU or transport operations & technology in DIT. Otherwise you're gonna struggle with just an ordinary degree in geography & irish studies.

Its not his best option, that course was only recently introduced their no evidence supporting where graduates even go. And it doesn't offer subsidised flight training in case you think it does.

rallye150flyer

!MAVERICK! wrote: »

Its not his best option, that course was only recently introduced their no evidence supporting where graduates even go. And it doesn't offer subsidised flight training in case you think it does.

thats a very important piece of information. No degree course offers subsidised flight training so dont let anybody lead you down the garden path with info that MAY lead you to believe otherwise

corkman123

i know there are undergraduate courses such as the one in dcu and dit... but im already through a first year undergrad course doin geog and irish studies in ucd.. was wondering where i could go from there.. even if i had to go to england for a intership

Jim236

corkman123 wrote: »

i know there are undergraduate courses such as the one in dcu and dit... but im already through a first year undergrad course doin geog and irish studies in ucd.. was wondering where i could go from there.. even if i had to go to england for a intership

Its not that theres a lack of internships available in Ireland, even though there is, its that you won't get one in aviation doing the course you're doing.

!MAVERICK! wrote: »

Its not his best option, that course was only recently introduced their no evidence supporting where graduates even go. And it doesn't offer subsidised flight training in case you think it does.

I think anyone wanting to work in aviation management needs a degree at least, so I'd say it is his best option. I know the DCU course is only new and there hasn't even been any graduates from it yet, but the DIT course is well established and has had graduates go on to work in aviation management in Ireland and abroad.

corkman123

i was thinking of doing the international tourism masters in university limerick .. would that be of benefit?

Jim236

corkman123 wrote: »

i was thinking of doing the international tourism masters in university limerick .. would that be of benefit?

No. If you can afford it, you should do a masters in Aviation Management in Cranfield:

http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/soe/postgraduatestudy/airtransport/index.html

corkman123

7 grand isnt too bad... would a standard arts degree get me in?

donkey balls

op you said that your interested in getting a job in mgmt within the aviation sector you never said what sector within the industry? If it is in the maintenance of aircraft go for something in engineering etc as I said in another post and speaking from experience most people that I know working in mgmt worked there way up the ladder.
These people are now MD&directors within their organisations I have yet to hear of someone walking into a snr mgmt position in any sector of the business with an aviation degree.

Jim236

donkey balls wrote: »

op you said that your interested in getting a job in mgmt within the aviation sector you never said what sector within the industry? If it is in the maintenance of aircraft go for something in engineering etc as I said in another post and speaking from experience most people that I know working in mgmt worked there way up the ladder.
These people are now MD&directors within their organisations I have yet to hear of someone walking into a snr mgmt position in any sector of the business with an aviation degree.

Having a degree in Aviation Management, Aviation Technology, or Transport Operations & Technology would enable you to work in any part of the aviation sector.

As you say he could go down the road of doing a Business degree as well, but either way hes not gonna get a job in aviation with a degree in Geography & Irish Studies.

corkman123 wrote: »

7 grand isnt too bad... would a standard arts degree get me in?

Theres only 35 places on the course, and you're interviewed by the college as well, so its hard to know. Again, the course you're doing won't do you any favours. As for the costs, you'll be paying a lot more than £6,950/€7,935 when you take into account living costs.