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Car wont start

  • 26-04-2011 12:07pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭


    Hi guys,

    So my car hasnt been started for the best part of a month.
    Tried to start it the other day, and nada, no ticking over, nothing when the key was turned.
    Tried to jumpstart it, but still nothing, completely dead.
    Now the alarm was set for the 3-4weeks when it wasnt being used, so perhaps that has completely drained the battery?

    Its worth mentioning, it has no power at all, I thought the alarm would go off when opened with the key(as the keyfob wouldnt work) but it didnt, also the central locking system is not working, only open the car door by door with key.

    Any ideas?
    Only things I can think of are:
    Completely dead battery?
    Fuse issue?
    Immobiliser set in?

    PS...Its an 03 Celica btw...


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭TrailerBob


    Check for corrosion around the battery earth lead if there's no power at all, both ends if you can, has to be something simple if that the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭krissovo


    HBK wrote: »
    Completely dead battery?

    There you are, if you try jumping leave the slave car connected up for 30 mins or so and you may get lucky. At a guess your battery is shot but may charge up on a slow cycle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    krissovo wrote: »
    There you are, if you try jumping leave the slave car connected up for 30 mins or so and you may get lucky. At a guess your battery is shot but may charge up on a slow cycle.

    rev it slightley too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭BronsonTB


    Sounds like a dead battery from talking to a few of the lads in the owners club...Once you jump start do a round trip and and then see if it's charged otherwise new battery time...

    Sligo Metalhead



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 411 ✭✭HBK


    Cheers lads, gonna put in a replacement battery and give it another go! Hopefully thats all it is!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 al3x


    hi guys sorry for putting this in here but i cant seem to create a new thread,
    My 03 seat ibiza with only 60k miles on it decided last monday morning (when i was in a hurry of course) that it wasnt going to start. It was fine about 4 hours before when i got home from work. It is ticking over and ready to start but it just wont kick in, car has never had any problems starting before.

    Any help on this would be great.

    Thanks,
    Alex


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,764 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    al3x wrote: »
    hi guys sorry for putting this in here but i cant seem to create a new thread,
    My 03 seat ibiza with only 60k miles on it decided last monday morning (when i was in a hurry of course) that it wasnt going to start. It was fine about 4 hours before when i got home from work. It is ticking over and ready to start but it just wont kick in, car has never had any problems starting before.

    Any help on this would be great.

    Thanks,
    Alex

    Could be loose connection on the spark plugs, dodgy spark plugs or weak battery. Any idea when the plugs were last changed?


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    al3x wrote: »
    It is ticking over and ready to start but it just wont kick in, car has never had any problems starting before.

    Either ignition or fuel, easy to check for spark if you have a plug spanner. Fuel easy to check too, spray damp start up the air intake, if it starts while cranking then its fuel (pump failed or blocked filter).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 al3x


    plugs im pretty sure havnt been changed in the last couple of years. battery is 100%. would you be able to recommend any way of checking to see what state the spark plugs are in?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    .

    Take out a plug, reconnect it to lead and lay the metal side of it on an earth (bolthead connected to the body is best) get someone to turn it over, look for spark at the tip (dont hold on to it whilst you do it :-)

    Have you tried jump starting it from another vehicle , that "100%" battery may well be the culprit

    two references to "ticking over" in this thread, to save confusion please note that this refers to an engine sweetly running on idle NOT to an engine TURNING over but not starting


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 al3x


    so it wasnt the spark plugs changed them all today, still no look. anything else it could be? wouldnt be the starter motor would it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,844 ✭✭✭Jimdagym


    al3x wrote: »
    so it wasnt the spark plugs changed them all today, still no look. anything else it could be? wouldnt be the starter motor would it?

    A starter motor gone you would barely hear a peep from your bonnet. If it's gone it won't turn the flywheel so it won't turn the engine. Push your car back about a foot in gear and try it again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    al3x wrote: »
    so it wasnt the spark plugs changed them all today, still no look. anything else it could be? wouldnt be the starter motor would it?

    Its not the starter motor if the engine is turning over when you attempt to start it.

    Did you do the test mentioned already, lead with plug on it, and touch plug metal body off any metal part of engine it will reach, and get someone to turn engine over? You can now use one of the old ones. It probably would spark from the end of the lead held near the engine block too, but use one of plugs you removed.

    A spark will be seen if the ignition system is working. Its likely either igniton or fuel problem. The test will confirm or eliminate the ignition problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    corktina wrote: »
    .
    Have you tried jump starting it from another vehicle , that "100%" battery may well be the culprit

    two references to "ticking over" in this thread, to save confusion please note that this refers to an engine sweetly running on idle NOT to an engine TURNING over but not starting

    It sounds like the ticking over was meant to mean turning over alright, as they said "ticking over and ready to start but just wont kick in"

    If it is turning over, jump starting wont do much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    yes it will, if the battery is weak and the starter is using all the availble power there will be nothing left to start the engine. A jump start with the donor car revving slightley will make full power availble.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    It will help if the starter is struggling to turn the engine over, but once it is turning over normally, jump starting will not do much, and its likely a fuel or ignition problem. From what is being said, the car seems to be turning over ok.

    Once the engine is turning over, there is plenty of power for the ignition system to produce a spark, assuming its a petrol car. After all, a car with a flat battery not capable of turning the starter motor at all, can be push started. Once the engine turns at all, a spark will be produced if the ignition system is working.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 al3x


    cheers for all the help guys still no luck though tried pushing it back a foot in gear and still nothing. how exactly do i do this ignition test? what do you mean connect the spark plug to a lead?
    And yes very sorry i ment turning over not ticking over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,844 ✭✭✭Jimdagym


    al3x wrote: »
    cheers for all the help guys still no luck though tried pushing it back a foot in gear and still nothing. how exactly do i do this ignition test? what do you mean connect the spark plug to a lead?
    And yes very sorry i ment turning over not ticking over

    You have take the lead off a spark plug to remove it. That's the lead you put back on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    al3x wrote: »
    cheers for all the help guys still no luck though tried pushing it back a foot in gear and still nothing. how exactly do i do this ignition test? what do you mean connect the spark plug to a lead?
    And yes very sorry i ment turning over not ticking over

    Disconnect one of the leads from a spark plug, and if you have another spark plug handy, plug the lead into that, and lay the lead with plug touching a metal part of engine.

    Get someone to turn engine over, and you look at the plug. If ingnition system is ok, a spark will be seen as the engine turns and probably heard from the plug on the lead.

    If you have no spare plug, remove the one you disconnected the lead from if you have a socket for that. Or hold the end of the lead close to metal of engine and it should spark probably, but with a plug is a more positive test.

    If there is no spark then there is an ignition problem, if there is, its possibly a fuel problem.


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