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what's your favourite Star Trek Film?

  • 25-04-2011 9:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭


    Mine is the wrath of Khan.

    Or I should say Khaaaaannnn!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    VI, II and VII (even though it was terrible)

    stoopid X killing it off, why couldn't we have had a DS9 film :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 841 ✭✭✭JBnaglfar


    II and VI are my favourites. A DS9 film could have been great alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Shivers26


    For me, First Contact by a mile but I was a fan of the more modern Trek's rather that TOS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Shivers26 wrote: »
    For me, First Contact by a mile but I was a fan of the more modern Trek's rather that TOS

    FC was "rinse, repeat" of awful Borg story.

    IT goes something like this:

    Borg decide to attack
    despite infinite resources and transwarp they send one ship at slow old warp
    plot twist (time ship this time)
    unlikely solution to beat the borg involving techobable and phasers on random (that the borg still can't adapt to despite meeting them countless times)
    happy ending

    (also they neglect to gather the wrecked ship despite the massive tech available in it...:rolleyes:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Kojak


    Star Trek VI, ftw


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Shivers26


    FC was "rinse, repeat" of awful Borg story.

    IT goes something like this:

    Borg decide to attack
    despite infinite resources and transwarp they send one ship at slow old warp
    plot twist (time ship this time)
    unlikely solution to beat the borg involving techobable and phasers on random (that the borg still can't adapt to despite meeting them countless times)
    happy ending

    (also they neglect to gather the wrecked ship despite the massive tech available in it...:rolleyes:)

    In general, I like any episode / movie that features the Borg. What I especially liked in this movie was the Zefram Cochran sub-plot.
    I know what you're saying.... its all a bit same old when they do Borg stories but its still my favourite. I found the Borg Queen quite creepy (the skin blowing!)


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Shivers26 wrote: »
    In general, I like any episode / movie that features the Borg. What I especially liked in this movie was the Zefram Cochran sub-plot.
    I know what you're saying.... its all a bit same old when they do Borg stories but its still my favourite. I found the Borg Queen quite creepy (the skin blowing!)

    The Wrath of Khan and The Undiscovered Country are way out in front. After that, First Contact and the new film are also really good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Johnny Storm


    FC was "rinse, repeat" of awful Borg story.

    IT goes something like this:

    Borg decide to attack
    despite infinite resources and transwarp they send one ship at slow old warp
    plot twist (time ship this time)
    unlikely solution to beat the borg involving techobable and phasers on random (that the borg still can't adapt to despite meeting them countless times)
    happy ending

    (also they neglect to gather the wrecked ship despite the massive tech available in it...:rolleyes:)

    Yeah! Plus, once fearsome hivemind now = bunch of tired old zombies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    Star Trek V, it had an incredibly deep and philosophical plot and William Shatner got to reprise his role of godslayer following his killing of Apollo. Also a space probe screams when it gets blown up by a klingon vessel, that was Shatners executive decision as director and his wisdom shines through.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭Klingon Hamlet


    Star Trek V, it had an incredibly deep and philosophical plot and William Shatner got to reprise his role of godslayer following his killing of Apollo. Also a space probe screams when it gets blown up by a klingon vessel, that was Shatners executive decision as director and his wisdom shines through.

    :p HILARIOUS!!:D

    II, VI and XI. The rest were pap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Fnordius


    Nicholas Meyer was the only director to truly grok Trek.

    Bill Shatner's foray was awful, but not as bad as whoever made the Next Generation movies. May those directors never touch anything dear to my heart ever again.

    J. J. Abrams was not bad, but his version of how fast warp is kinda ruined it for me. He admitted in interviews that he was abusing Trek to make a Star Wars homage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    VI for me.
    A proper plot with character actions that you can believe.
    Well acted and good action also.
    Two is only good because Shatner and Montelban's interaction. It basically is a submarine tension movie but has some silly elements (like being able to take control of a star ahip so easily, with a simple code).

    Good movies are II, III, IV, VI.

    The Next Gen movies really are terrible, once you take off the fan goggles. FC has plot holes that you could move space-dock through but is a good action movie, just like JJ Trek.
    For its flaws Insurrection is probably most true to TNG ethos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Two is only good because Shatner and Montelban's interaction.

    :eek:

    the whole Kirk - Spock interaction is also very very good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    :eek:

    the whole Kirk - Spock interaction is also very very good.

    True but no different than a lot of TOS. That was to be expected.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    II and VI. They're the only movies that actually stand up as decent movies outside of the franchise itself.

    I'm fairly sure Star Trek II was the first thing in the franchise I ever saw (a friend had it on VHS and we used to watch it a lot) and whenever someone asks me where to start on watching Trek I don't tell them to go to the beginning of any shows, I just tell them to watch part II and then take it from there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    The TNG movies were abominations in my opinion. The actors must take some blame. Frakes directed First Contact, while all actors strayed out of character in the rest of the movies, with the exceptions of LaForge and Worf.

    Picard joy-riding in dune buggy and losing his mind when faced with the Borg were both severe cases of him slipping well and truly out of character. Patrick Stewart should have protested. Frakes should have protested against Riker's actions as commanding officer during the Enterprise D's final moments.

    Also, the TNG cast with the exception of Worf were not suited to action films. They should have concentrated on some great stories instead.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    STII is my favourite, closely followed by VI. In some ways Meyer probably "got" Star Trek better than Roddenberry himself. I think there was always a conflict between how Gene envisioned Trek and what Trek actually was. Meyer had the advantage of a fresh perspective.

    Of the TNG films, I think First Contact was by far the best. Not a perfect film by any means, but I think they got the balance right in terms of what a TNG film should be. It was by far the most cinematic of the four films and, more importantly, it really challenged the crew. It wasn't just another adventure.

    I agree that Picard behaved out of character, but I think that was kinda the point. As a fan of the show I remember being quite excited to see Picard so out of control in the film. But the important thing is he goes back into character in the end. The moment of him quoting from Moby Dick and everything that follows is pure Picard. However, his behaviour in Nemesis was bizarre. He just wasn't the same character. Logan really hadn't a clue how to write him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    Picard behaving irrationally towards the borg in FC fitted in perfectly with his story arc involving the borg. That scene where he almost comes to blows with Worf on the bridge and where Beverly stoically proceeds with his orders followed by the meltdown where he breaks the miniature ships ...there's no finer scene in any Trek movie, and it wouldn't have worked as effectively except that the TNG cast are by far the most convincing out of any Trek franchise.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    AngryLips wrote: »
    Picard behaving irrationally towards the borg in FC fitted in perfectly with his story arc involving the borg. That scene where he almost comes to blows with Worf on the bridge and where Beverly stoically proceeds with his orders followed by the meltdown where he breaks the miniature ships ...there's no finer scene in any Trek movie, and it wouldn't have worked as effectively except that the TNG cast are by far the most convincing out of any Trek franchise.

    Yep I eally liked that he was a tortured soul by his borg experience he it came across as such and even when he takes the tommy gun and goes postal in the holodeck.

    OT but no matter else I see Michael Dorn in I never can see him as anything other than Worf


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭johndoe99


    Wrath of Khan is my favourite, action all the way, superb. Would liked to have seen a movie from DS9.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Picard had no problem with the Borg in "I Borg" and "Descent". I do think First Contact was the best TNG movie by a great distance, however.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,473 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    I love the Wrath of Khan and First Contact (more space battles please :D)
    Also the Undiscovered Country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭FGR


    My personal favourite would be Wrath of Khan and Generations.

    Nemesis, however, was a disaster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Cybercelesta


    1st contact was one of my fav's, because I'm a big Borg fan! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,657 ✭✭✭komodosp


    I think The Undiscovered Country, although I actually enjoyed Generations despite the plot being rubbish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭OldeCinemaSoz


    They're all rubbish if you ask me except for
    IV...the one with the whales and landing in modern day
    San Francisco.

    A gem. :)


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