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English poetry= oh dear!

  • 25-04-2011 8:01pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39


    Basically, I'm (not to sound concieted) but capable of an A in the jc , however I can't wrap my head around the poetry! I managed to score 80% in the mocks whilst leaving the studied poetry blank. I just don't know what to learn? Our teacher is rubbish so I take to my own devices and try and research what to learn etc. but i would be SOOOOOOOO grateful if any past jc's or even current students could write the list of the poems they studied and then i could go off and get notes and learn them. Or better yet share a few notes on the poems! I'm just really worried that without this A in english I will only end up with one A as I am in the same predicament with maths!


    Many thanks :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Desire.


    English in general = Oh dear! :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭Geo10


    Learn one poem per theme and two poems by one poet. You can get poetry revision books with notes in them.
    What I learned:
    Death/Grief: Mid-term Break
    War: Base Details
    Memories/ Childhood/ Nature: Blackberry Picking
    Decisions/ Allegory/ Life Choices: The Road Not Taken
    Place/ Imagery: The Lake Isle of Innisfree
    Love/ Wishes: The Thickness of Ice
    That covers everything that might up (including 2 poems by Seamus Heaney for poet question)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 KateNolan96


    I learned:
    Death/Grief: Mid-Term Break
    War: Does It Matter?
    Memories/Childhood/Nature: Digging
    Decisions/Allegory/Life Choices: The Road Not Taken
    Place/Imagery: The Lake-Isle Of Innisfree
    Love/Wishes: Shall I Compare Thee?
    Two Poems With The Same Theme/Poet: Does It Matter? and Survivors


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Bazinga_N


    Im Doing:

    What I learned:
    Death/Grief: Mid-term Break
    War: Dulce et Decorum Est
    Memories/ Childhood/ Nature: Early Purges
    Decisions/ Allegory/ Life Choices: Tich Miller
    Place/ Imagery: Going Home To Mayo, Winter 1949
    Love/ Wishes: Sonnet 20

    Also, Mid-Term Break & Early Purges are both for Seamus Heaney.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭KirkCheated09


    Basically, I'm (not to sound concieted) but capable of an A in the jc , however I can't wrap my head around the poetry! I managed to score 80% in the mocks whilst leaving the studied poetry blank. I just don't know what to learn? Our teacher is rubbish so I take to my own devices and try and research what to learn etc. but i would be SOOOOOOOO grateful if any past jc's or even current students could write the list of the poems they studied and then i could go off and get notes and learn them. Or better yet share a few notes on the poems! I'm just really worried that without this A in english I will only end up with one A as I am in the same predicament with maths!


    Many thanks :)
    JC poetry is pretty easy tbh. I only learned one poem for the mocks and it was only 10 lines long. It was 'Base details' about the British Majors of WW1 and people probably think I got lucky or something with the question but I didn't, I made the poem fit the question and I think my different approach to the Q was appreciated and I got full marks and an A.

    Anyway now I'm learning some more myself to be safe.

    Base details - Seigfried Sassoon
    The conquerors - Henry treece
    Funeral blues - William h Auden.
    Dulce et Decorum est - wilfred owen.

    I'd be happy to type up notes for ya on them if you like.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Indiego


    I did my JC last year, got an A in English so I suppose I might be of some help, poetry has always been my favorite section by far, I personally find it really easy to come up with stuff to write :o
    I learned a good few poems but I didnt go overboard learning a lot of info about them, they were more like backups, and then I learned one extremely in depth that I planned to try and make work for the question :L

    The poems I did: (keep in mind, I didnt learn these ones in much detail, I had them just in case a crazy specific question came up that didnt suit the one I did in detail :L, hence why I have so many :o)

    Base Details
    Dulce et Decorum est
    When You are Old
    The Road Not Taken
    Blackberry Picking
    Mid-Term Break
    The Lake Isle of Inisfree
    Shall I compare thee
    Digging
    The Thickness of Ice

    I made sure I knew one war, one love, two by the same poet, two with the same theme, and then a few miscellaneous ones like ones with good imagery, death/grief, descisions etc, for the more obscure questions :L

    Then I learned 'He wishes for the cloths of heaven' in like craaazyy detail, I love the poem and know it off by heart, and I'd always always used it for poetry answers, so I was counting on it to get me full marks :L

    When making notes on poems I usually make them under the headings 'Summary', 'Imagery', 'Techniques' (assonance, alliteration etc.), and 'Quotes', and Id usually do it in bullet points :)
    As well as that I made out little flash cards with quotes written on one side and a 'hint' on the other side, to help me learn the quotes.

    When writing an answer for poetry I'd usually do a short introduction paragraph, just giving a short summary of the poem, then Id do a paragraph addressing the question, for example if it asked about a love poem, Id explain why I consider it a love poem, then in the following paragraphs I'd expand on any points I had made in the previous paragrapy, usually in the 3rd paragraph I write about the techniques used, and in the 4th Id write about the imagery, but make sure to always relate back to the question! Then at the end Id put a short paragraph about what I personally think of the poem etc.

    Hope this is of some use to you :)


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