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Disco bars and Night Clubs, why bother?

  • 25-04-2011 2:31am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    For the fellas, why bother?

    Pro's. (1) There are often plenty of women so you never know, could be your night, ha, but lets be honest...
    (2)They might play a decent song? Ha, but lets be honest...and who gives a...

    Cons - (1) Entry fees. All nightclubs have entry fees, majority 10euro. (2) The pints are well over priced. 5.60euro where I was last night, price range between 5euro and just over 6euro at times. Shot$ and cocktail$ are a joke. Explains those mornings you wake up wondering feeling like you're 20 short (3) Night clubs and some bars - Do any fellas listen to that shit the DJ pumps out in thier own free time? If so, whats wrong with you?!? (4) The loudness of the music. It feels like my ears are actually trickling blood at times (5) The getting in and out from the suburbs is quite the trek knowing that the odds of pulling by the looks of things are minimal, and the so called players shout "speak for yourself!". ok. (6) Trying to talk to a bird is near impossible at times, by now we should all be lip readers. (6) You have to dance like a dick.
    (7) Very, very few lads actually try it on. Of those very few pull. Most dance floors look like a school disco. Boys and girls dancing with their own mates. Then a bit of mixing but thats it. I've started to notice the amount of fellas and girls outside the bar/club, and inside, without another half when alls over. Of course theres a few pairing off but from my own sober point of view this is exceptional. Most women are rejecting or just walking away from lads who even show a slight interest which is totally fine!!!

    So I guess ultimately I'm wondering is the whole ordeal worth the end result, whatever that may be for yourself - kebab and chips, a wear off some bird, a phone number, the scenic trip home in the taxi/nightlink.

    Is there anything else to do on a Sat night I wonder?

    For the women, all I'll say is dont leave things too late, the biology clock is ticking and when all is falling south no bloke will be there trying to pick you up.

    :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    guitarzero wrote: »
    For the women, all I'll say is dont leave things too late, the biology clock is ticking and when all is falling south no bloke will be there trying to pick you up.

    :)

    Thanks for the advice....I'll certainly keep it in mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭Aoifey!


    guitarzero wrote: »
    For the women, all I'll say is dont leave things too late, the biology clock is ticking and when all is falling south no bloke will be there trying to pick you up.

    :)
    I think you mean biological clock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭SomeFool


    More drink......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭xo.mary


    guitarzero wrote: »
    Cons - (1) Entry fees. All nightclubs have entry fees, majority 10euro.

    I go out nearly once a week, in Galway city. I don't think I've paid in to a nightclub in over a year, and if I did it was no more than €3..

    Looks like you're going to the wrong place..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭Aoifey!


    xo.mary wrote: »
    I go out nearly once a week, in Galway city. I don't think I've paid in to a nightclub in over a year, and if I did it was no more than €3..

    Looks like you're going to the wrong place..
    Same with Waterford for the most part.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭Chnandler Bong


    Totally agree, I dont even go to nightclubs anymore and I'm 23, there a joke.

    I just go to the pub earlier with 3 or 4 good friends around 7 and we have a good laugh and we are that pissed by 12:30 we dont bother with a club.

    The dance-floor is full of teenagers half naked, I felt like a perv when I used to go. The drink is ****e and Nearly double the price of the pub.

    I feel you're pain OP.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    xo.mary wrote: »
    I go out nearly once a week, in Galway city. I don't think I've paid in to a nightclub in over a year, and if I did it was no more than €3..

    Looks like you're going to the wrong place..

    I dont live in Galway. I've been to a few clubs there, one just off eyre square (feel free to correct my spelling folks), same shit, different city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    People like dancing, people like bumping and grinding. The beer goggles makes you think every last person in there is a sexy bitch. Nothing wrong with the occasional nightclub and sure you might even get the ride.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    People like dancing, people like bumping and grinding. The beer goggles makes you think every last person in there is a sexy bitch. Nothing wrong with the occasional nightclub and sure you might even get the ride.

    If there were no birds at the club every disco would be dry or a gay bar. I know one lad who likes to dance, good for him:o. As for nightclubs I restate my opener.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    guitarzero wrote: »
    For the fellas, why bother?

    Pro's. (1) There are often plenty of women so you never know,

    yup, that's why.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero



    yup, that's why.

    I was hoping my post wasnt that rhetorical but I simply cant argue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Newsflash: Some people go out to have fun with their friends and not for the sole intention of scoring.

    Don't get me wrong, I try as hard as any lad to score on nights out, but I don't regard the night as a "failure" or whatever if I don't pull :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭Cypher_sounds




    This song explains all, have a listen:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    Newsflash: Some people go out to have fun with their friends and not for the sole intention of scoring.

    Don't get me wrong, I try as hard as any lad to score on nights out, but I don't regard the night as a "failure" or whatever if I don't pull :confused:

    WE'HEY! Heres me with my mates in Dandys! Look at us, having the laugh there, on the dance floor acting the lad!!! We dont need women to have a good night cuz we're just having the craic, getting locked, acting the ret-ard, etc....you get my point. I dont believe you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    xo.mary wrote: »
    I go out nearly once a week, in Galway city. I don't think I've paid in to a nightclub in over a year, and if I did it was no more than €3..

    Looks like you're going to the wrong place..

    Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    guitarzero wrote: »
    If there were no birds at the club every disco would be dry or a gay bar. I know one lad who likes to dance, good for him:o. As for nightclubs I restate my opener.
    Eh, whats the point in saying "if there were no birds at the club?" There ARE birds at the club! Thats the whole point. Did you get shot down last night or something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 388 ✭✭johnboysligo




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    Horses for courses.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Went to clubs from 15 through 21 with the sole intention of having a laugh with the friends from college... Then I realised the only clubs worth going to are proper DJs or the less popular clubs that play great music..

    DeBurgoes anyone?


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Valentina Dirty Underdog


    Yeah I don't bother with them usually...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭Azureus


    I like a club about once a month or so. Granted probably wouldnt enjoy it totally sober though...
    I generally prefer gaf sessions or locals playin pool/gigs etc. That said, sometimes I just want a dancefloor!

    Oh, and I have never scored someone randomly in a club so that is really not the sole point for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭Feeona


    guitarzero wrote: »

    For the women, all I'll say is dont leave things too late, the biology clock is ticking and when all is falling south no bloke will be there trying to pick you up.

    Meeeooowwwwwww!!!!!! the claws are out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭Salty


    guitarzero wrote: »
    WE'HEY! Heres me with my mates in Dandys! Look at us, having the laugh there, on the dance floor acting the lad!!! We dont need women to have a good night cuz we're just having the craic, getting locked, acting the ret-ard, etc....you get my point. I dont believe you.

    Well...everyone's idea of fun is different so you can't just discard it because it's not what you like.

    Anyway, for me, I enjoy clubbing with my friends. We make a whole evening out of it, getting ready etc, and just want to dance and have a laugh. I generally don't drink as much when I'm with them either, and come home with plenty of moola. All good:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,037 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    Haven't been to a nightclub in years. A record I'm hoping to maintain.

    Hate the ****holes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,975 ✭✭✭W.Shakes-Beer


    SomeFool wrote: »
    More drink......

    Oh wait, I have to go to the bathroom.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 825 ✭✭✭Dwellingdweller


    guitarzero wrote: »
    WE'HEY! Heres me with my mates in Dandys! Look at us, having the laugh there, on the dance floor acting the lad!!! We dont need women to have a good night cuz we're just having the craic, getting locked, acting the ret-ard, etc....you get my point. I dont believe you.

    I doubt he cares whether you believe him or not, do you really think he'd go to the trouble of making up a fictional scenario just to prove you wrong? :rolleyes: jaded isn't the right word for ya man...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    guitarzero wrote: »

    Cons - (1) Entry fees. All nightclubs have entry fees, majority 10euro. (2) The pints are well over priced. 5.60euro where I was last night, price range between 5euro and just over 6euro at times. Shot$ and cocktail$ are a joke. Explains those mornings you wake up wondering feeling like you're 20 short (3) Night clubs and some bars - Do any fellas listen to that shit the DJ pumps out in thier own free time? If so, whats wrong with you?!? (4) The loudness of the music. It feels like my ears are actually trickling blood at times (5) The getting in and out from the suburbs is quite the trek knowing that the odds of pulling by the looks of things are minimal, and the so called players shout "speak for yourself!". ok. (6) Trying to talk to a bird is near impossible at times, by now we should all be lip readers. (6) You have to dance like a dick.
    (7) Very, very few lads actually try it on. Of those very few pull. Most dance floors look like a school disco. Boys and girls dancing with their own mates. Then a bit of mixing but thats it. I've started to notice the amount of fellas and girls outside the bar/club, and inside, without another half when alls over. Of course theres a few pairing off but from my own sober point of view this is exceptional. Most women are rejecting or just walking away from lads who even show a slight interest which is totally fine!!!

    )

    Have you noticed your friends' eyes glazing over on a regular basis lately?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭The Agogo


    From the Guardian (Charlie Brooker):

    I went to a fashionable London nightclub on Saturday. Not the sort of sentence I get to write very often, because I enjoy nightclubs less than I enjoy eating wool. But a glamorous friend of mine was there to "do a PA", and she'd invited me and some curious friends along because we wanted to see precisely what "doing a PA" consists of. Turns out doing a public appearance largely entails sitting around drinking free champagne and generally just "being there".
    Obviously, at 36, I was more than a decade older than almost everyone else, and subsequently may as well have been smeared head to toe with pus. People regarded me with a combination of pity and disgust. To complete the circuit, I spent the night wearing the expression of a man waking up to Christmas in a prison cell.

    "I'm too old to enjoy this," I thought. And then remembered I've always felt this way about clubs. And I mean all clubs - from the cheesiest downmarket sickbucket to the coolest cutting-edge hark-at-us poncehole. I hated them when I was 19 and I hate them today. I just don't have to pretend any more.

    I'm convinced no one actually likes clubs. It's a conspiracy. We've been told they're cool and fun; that only "saddoes" dislike them. And no one in our pathetic little pre-apocalyptic timebubble wants to be labelled "sad" - it's like being officially declared worthless by the state. So we muster a grin and go out on the town in our millions.

    Clubs are despicable. Cramped, overpriced furnaces with sticky walls and the latest idiot theme tunes thumping through the humid air so loud you can't hold a conversation, just bellow inanities at megaphone-level. And since the smoking ban, the masking aroma of cigarette smoke has been replaced by the overbearing stench of crotch sweat and hair wax.

    Clubs are such insufferable dungeons of misery, the inmates have to take mood-altering substances to make their ordeal seem halfway tolerable. This leads them to believe they "enjoy" clubbing. They don't. No one does. They just enjoy drugs.

    Drugs render location meaningless. Neck enough ketamine and you could have the best night of your life squatting in a shed rolling corks across the floor. And no one's going to search you on the way in. Why bother with clubs?

    "Because you might get a shag," is the usual response. Really? If that's the only way you can find a partner - preening and jigging about like a desperate animal - you shouldn't be attempting to breed in the first place. What's your next trick? Inventing fire? People like you are going to spin civilisation into reverse. You're a moron, and so is that haircut you're trying to impress. Any offspring you eventually blast out should be drowned in a pan before they can do any harm. Or open any more nightclubs.

    Even if you somehow avoid reproducing, isn't it a lot of hard work for very little reward? Seven hours hopping about in a hellish, reverberating bunker in exchange for sharing 64 febrile, panting pelvic thrusts with someone who'll snore and dribble into your pillow till 11 o'clock in the morning, before waking up beside you with their hair in a mess, blinking like a dizzy cat and smelling vaguely like a ham baguette? Really, why bother? Why not just stay at home punching yourself in the face? Invite a few friends round and make a night of it. It'll be more fun than a club.

    Anyway, back to Saturday night, and apart from the age gap, two other things stuck me. Firstly, everyone had clearly spent far too long perfecting their appearance. I used to feel intimidated by people like this; now I see them as walking insecurity beacons, slaves to the perceived judgment of others, trapped within a self- perpetuating circle of crushing status anxiety. I'd still secretly like to be them, of course, but at least these days I can temporarily erect a veneer of defensive, sneering superiority. I've progressed that far.

    The second thing that struck me was frightening. They were all photographing themselves. In fact, that's all they seemed to be doing. Standing around in expensive clothes, snapping away with phones and cameras. One pose after another, as though they needed to prove their own existence, right there, in the moment. Crucially, this seemed to be the reason they were there in the first place. There was very little dancing. Just pouting and flashbulbs.

    Surely this is a new development. Clubs have always been vapid and awful and boring and blah - but I can't remember clubbers documenting their every moment before. Not to this demented extent. It's not enough to pretend you're having fun in the club any more - you've got to pretend you're having fun in your Flickr gallery, and your friends' Flickr galleries. An unending exhibition in which a million terrified, try-too-hard imbeciles attempt to out-cool each other.

    Mind you, since in about 20 years' time these same people will be standing waist-deep in skeletons, in an arid post-nuclear wasteland, clubbing each other to death in a fight for the last remaining glass of water, perhaps they're wise to enjoy these carefree moments while they last. Even if they're only pretending.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Eh, whats the point in saying "if there were no birds at the club?" There ARE birds at the club! Thats the whole point. Did you get shot down last night or something?
    Yup:
    guitarzero wrote: »
    For the women, all I'll say is dont leave things too late, the biology clock is ticking and when all is falling south no bloke will be there trying to pick you up.

    :)
    Also, you're advocating settling for someone you're not really into but who can be a sperm donor... yet that would then be deemed desperation/bunny-boiler carry-on...

    Confuzzlin'...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    If there is a hell then it's probably inside a nightclub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭El Horseboxo


    I hate nightclubs with a passion. If i'm gonna try pick up some girl from a night of drinking it will be in a pub without loud music pumping or expensive drinks. You just need to go to the right areas. Some very good late pubs in areas outside the city center (Dublin). I prefer meeting girls when sober anyways. I don't know how many classes i've had very little interest in that i've took just to meet new women. They're an untapped resource.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭chickenbutt


    I guess it would depend on the nightclub, the night, the mood I'm in and the company I'm with. I used to really enjoy going with my friends because it'd be the whole lot of us just out for a laugh, but it's not really appealing anymore. I don't know how people can afford to do it every weekend, the prices are ridiculous! I can't get past thinking what better things I could spend all that money on and then the guilt just makes me enjoy my night less :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Tbh I hate the average nightclub too. But I do like having sex. Since I'm single at the moment and dont have the confidence, looks, charm or wherewithal to successfully chat up sober women in the "real" world, I have to get pissed and go to nightclubs. My record is not great but its better than zero. I dont grope, harass or thrust at girls, I just start conversations in smoking areas and hope for the best. Anyone who thinks they are somehow superior or less sleazy to me because they take some stupid class or course to meet women is deluded. We're all just looking for the ride at the end of the day, at least I'm honest about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    If there is a hell then it's probably inside a nightclub.
    Specifically Havana Brown's in Cork...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    guitarzero wrote: »
    WE'HEY! Heres me with my mates in Dandys! Look at us, having the laugh there, on the dance floor acting the lad!!! We dont need women to have a good night cuz we're just having the craic, getting locked, acting the ret-ard, etc....you get my point. I dont believe you.

    Why ask people a question and then instantly dismiss their answers?

    Is the possibility that people do different things for different reason really that scary to you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭mike kelly


    I love nightclubs with country and irish live music. lots of randy women looking for men with land


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    As a rule of thumb I find that if a pub or club has wooden floors it tends to be more fun as people there seem to be in a more relaxed friendly social mood. If there isn't a wooden floor I find people play the "lets act cool game" a lot more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    If there isn't a wooden floor I find people play the "lets act cool game" a lot more.
    Ones with carpeted floors? Like in a hotel?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Dudess wrote: »
    Ones with carpeted floors? Like in a hotel?

    hmmm..... don't know about carpet. I'll find out next time I'm in a venue with carpeted floors.

    I think in general though any night club that is really modern/flashy/shiny withs lots of laser beams and people gyrating on podiums in their underwear tends to have a bad atmosphere for enjoying yourself, I think people their are more likely to be concerned with how other people are perceiving them, so it's hard to let your hair down and enjoy yourself. Maybe the reason is that it's simply a more intimidating environment and people don't feel "good enough" in there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭FinnLizzy


    The last time I went out with the intention of pulling was when I pulled my current girlfriend. Only now can I actually say that I'd go out "with de ladz for de craic" and actually mean it (until we break up and the process has to start again).
    Having said that, I have a love hate relationship with modern clubbing (the only clubbing I know, I'm 19). The music is ****, but I can't complain because I have no power over it, so I force myself to enjoy it. The entry fee can be rediculous, but I'm a student so €5 would be good enough for me. And the gobsh1tes that photograph every movement of their night and go on about it on Facebook afterwards...... but I still appreciate if I'm in the picture!

    Alternative night: In with a bong, some Dutch, and a good conversation over a low level iPod speaker (with music before the year 2000)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    I never liked nightclubs. Even when I was in my late teens, early twenties, I didn't like them. I only went to those places when 'the group' was going and then just drank myself into a fuzzy stupor in an attempt to block out the stupidity. I do not and never have understood the attraction of these places. They're too loud, too dark, quite often too dirty, and too crowded.

    Why anybody thinks it's a good idea to stand around with all the lights out, crap music blaring at ear-bleeding volumes with a bunch of drunken idiots is beyond me. I like good music, played at a volume that allows me to speak and more importantly, to hear what my friends are saying.

    I suppose those places really are just for younger people. In fact, it's been a real long time since I've been in a nightclub. I would imagine that I'd find it pretty horrible if I were to go into one today. I'd be that guy; the weird creepy older guy who just looks out of place and kind of pervy. Yeah... I'd like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭Raging_Ninja


    Not a great fan, too many of them have crap music, orange women and are way too crowded. I like to have a bit of space around me when I'm drinking, and at least the illusion of privacy when I meet a girl.

    When I was hitching a lift home from Galway, the driver gave me a bit of advice on the way back that stuck with me ever since. If you really want a relationship, don't go to nightclubs - go to a sport or social group such as a martial arts group, book club, drama society, a library or something. You actually get to talk to them and figure out which ones are the one worth getting with rather than the ones that bore you to tears except for in bed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    I just wish no one would go anywhere for one year. I could do it. Could you? Stick to houses and friends?

    I'm so sick of the fact that all through the boom, the vintners association held Government to ransom, "We'll cut off de drink!", more shocking to us Irish than the Arabs cutting off the oil, and now they feel above the recession, where boom prices prevail.

    I decided to go for a mid-day pint recently, it was a warm day, I just collected my measley dole, and I can't remember the last time I just sat down on a nice day and had a quiet pint. 5.20 please. At 1.30pm on a Wednesday.

    What exactly is the privalege I'm paying for here? HOW are these prices still being charged? We knew it was expensive when we were rolling in cash, but we didn't give a fu*k, because the bank just gave us a quarter mill for a one room bedsit (kitchen, bedroom and living room communal) out in Roscommon, so what's 6.50 for a pint in a club, or 5.50 for a pint in a pub...

    I want 90% of the greedy pubs in this country to go out of business. I've barely set foot in one in months, and wont be for a while. Not until it's reasonable at least. I don't mind a fair price, just don't be so blatant about your greed and lack of giving a sh*t that we all know it, because, sadly, we still pay it.

    The greedy will stay greedy. Vote with your feet people, have some respect for yourself and don't allow this blatant theft, don't fuel the pub greed, or at least reward the ones who make an effort to be reasonable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭anto2


    Ok i now live in Thailand ( full time for 3 years ) .Before i was marryied here i liked the fact that you could go to a bar and be guaranteed a shag,for lttle money .( money is not discussed before hand but you slip her the equivalent of 20 Euro in the morning .)
    I would not marry such a girl however ,and my Thai wife has her own business ( hairdresser shop ).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,969 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    I'm quite softly spoken and I've a painful throat if I try to raise my voice/shout in a nightclub.

    But isn't that the idea, shut up and drink says the owner


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    Dudess wrote: »
    Specifically Havana Brown's in Cork...

    You've never been to blinkers in athlone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    [Jackass] wrote: »
    ...

    You really, really wanted to fit that rant in, didn't you? :p

    Not that I disagree of course, haven't gone to a pub/club for anything other than live music in months.


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