cow swollowed some wire

stanflt

vet gave me a magnet to but down her stomach-any one ever come across this bsfore

whelan1

yup mostly r.i.p

dar31

ya would do it quite often, maybe up to a dozen a year.
you would see it quite often after calving, where there might be a forgien object in the cows stomach, cant remember the stomach name, the force involved in calving from pushing would cause the forgien object do damage, for the want of a better description. the magnet will sit in the stomach and hold the object in place.

if we have a cow we cant quite pin down what is wrong with, we would give her a magnet, new zealand dose, and a course of antibiotic's, cover all the bases as it were.

we have a magnetic tray on the keenan feeder, you would be amazed at what ends up stuck to it.

stanflt

dar31 wrote: »

ya would do it quite often, maybe up to a dozen a year.
you would see it quite often after calving, where there might be a forgien object in the cows stomach, cant remember the stomach name, the force involved in calving from pushing would cause the forgien object do damage, for the want of a better description. the magnet will sit in the stomach and hold the object in place.

if we have a cow we cant quite pin down what is wrong with, we would give her a magnet, new zealand dose, and a course of antibiotic's, cover all the bases as it were.

we have a magnetic tray on the keenan feeder, you would be amazed at what ends up stuck to it.

she only calved about 2weeks-been a bit poorly this past week

dar31

stanflt wrote: »

she only calved about 2weeks-been a bit poorly this past week

fits the bill, what else did the vet advise.
think it is usually sulpa powders and broad spectrum antibiotics, could be wrong on the supla powders though.
if peritonitis sets in she is probably a goner.
magnets are very effective if used in time.
just remembered alot of big farms in the states give all cows in herd magnets as the come in

jeff greene

How much are magnets? it would probably be good policy to do all cows with them, especially when diet feeding.

what happen

stanflt wrote: »

vet gave me a magnet to but down her stomach-any one ever come across this bsfore

would the vet not open her up and take it out. will the magnet work.

kay 9

Is cattle swallowing wire such a common thing these days? Is it loose wire they find left lying around yards when lacking iron or something? If so it's the owners I blame. :mad:

PMU

kay 9 wrote: »

Is cattle swallowing wire such a common thing these days? Is it loose wire they find left lying around yards when lacking iron or something? If so it's the owners I blame. :mad:

no, it tends to be in the silage,often a piece of metal off a machine

whelan1

or a bit of wire off the tyres on the pit ,

stanflt

heifer was a lot brighter this morning-and was slightly up in her milk


shes not out of the woods yet though still it looks promising

Muckit

stanflt wrote: »

vet gave me a magnet to but down her stomach-any one ever come across this bsfore

I'm intrigued to know more about these magnets....
Does the cow pass the magnet with the piece of metal attached, or how does the magnet help?

stanflt

Muckit wrote: »

I'm intrigued to know more about these magnets....
Does the cow pass the magnet with the piece of metal attached, or how does the magnet help?

magnet sits in the stomach stopping the foreign object moving and causing harm

stanflt

heifer not well this morning-called vet again, he suggested bringing her to UCD vetinary practice for operation. organised transport but when we went to load her she wouldnt get up.

so decided to ring the kennels they wont be here till the morning-went back down to milk and she was up walking around and eating grass-


im confussed:rolleyes:

whelan1

stanflt wrote: »

heifer not well this morning-called vet again, he suggested bringing her to UCD vetinary practice for operation. organised transport but when we went to load her she wouldnt get up.

so decided to ring the kennels they wont be here till the morning-went back down to milk and she was up walking around and eating grass-


im confussed:rolleyes:

if you do decide to get the kennels to take get them to do a pm on her .. then you will know what the problem was... we got one done a few years ago and the vet found a tiny piece of wire that had perforated somewhere

essgee268

stanflt wrote: »

heifer not well this morning-called vet again, he suggested bringing her to UCD vetinary practice for operation. organised transport but when we went to load her she wouldnt get up.

so decided to ring the kennels they wont be here till the morning-went back down to milk and she was up walking around and eating grass-


im confussed:rolleyes:

Heard Years ago that if heifer is risen at the front legs (12"s) for few days. there is a chance that the foreign object will pass through

kenny d

Hi when I was on large scale Dairy Farms in the Middle East all alfalfa bales were tied with wire not twine. Consequently all animals got routinely done with a magnet into them at a young age. Mind you it wasn't completely foolproof as some animals still died due to " hardware ".Indeed when doing post mortems we often recovered magnets with up to 40 small pieces of wire attached to it !

einn32

Few odd deaths here and another one on the way out. Will do a post mortem but calved a week. Retained cleaning and now grunting and under pressure. Off food and no milk. Vet has checked and put in a magnet but didn't confirm wire but reading the symptoms it sounds likely. I'm thinking wires from silage pit tyres.

RedPeppers

einn32 wrote: »

Few odd deaths here and another one on the way out. Will do a post mortem but calved a week. Retained cleaning and now grunting and under pressure. Off food and no milk. Vet has checked and put in a magnet but didn't confirm wire but reading the symptoms it sounds likely. I'm thinking wires from silage pit tyres.

Any swelling in her neck / throat area? Must be something vet can try?

cute geoge

Is it the vet that put that idea in your head ,i remember a vet coming to that conclusion here years ago but i dont know .I would take no notice of losing an odd cow but if it is happening common enough ,get the opinion of another vet

einn32

One that died had heart failure leading to pressure on the jugular and entire circulation system. The farm I'm told has had issues two years ago with wires being ingested and I just happen to have eaten into a part of the silage pit that has probably been around two years or more. It just all seems to point to ingested wires/foreign object. I've never seen this issue before so it's baffling to me.

I'll see the post mortem and go from there. I guess putting magnets in the entire herd is the only option if it proves this is the issue.

grassroot1

Lost a good cow here 2 years ago We had a lightening strike and it burnt the 12g h/t into bits about 2 to 3 inches long, thought no more about it.We made bale silage from the paddock and of course fed it to cows. One cow was off for about a week and grunting then she got better but would not eat. Put her down as she was pining away vet confirmed wire pierced the stomach and eventually would have kill her. I would think fencing wire picked up in silage is the main source of the problem.

whelan2

einn32 wrote: »

One that died had heart failure leading to pressure on the jugular and entire circulation system. The farm I'm told has had issues two years ago with wires being ingested and I just happen to have eaten into a part of the silage pit that has probably been around two years or more. It just all seems to point to ingested wires/foreign object. I've never seen this issue before so it's baffling to me.

I'll see the post mortem and go from there. I guess putting magnets in the entire herd is the only option if it proves this is the issue.

Had vet with a cow today off form ,she calved a few weeks early on Friday, she stopped eating. No temp, cleaned ok, stomach ok. He pumped her with fluids and then noticed her jugular going mad, he checked her heart and she has a heart murmur, he gave her steroids too and she's back eating this evening. Said to nurse her on and factory her