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I had, what you might call, an "Atheist Moment"

  • 22-04-2011 7:26pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭


    It was a couple a year ago, at the Easter Vigil, and during the reading when God tells Abraham to sacrifice Isaac. I rememember thinking - "What kind of god would do that?"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    The lord works in mysterious ways


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Usually once you have an atheist moment - they don't stop coming after that. Christianity makes so much more sense if you look at it through atheist glasses. (i.e. It's made up - you don't have to reconcile all the contradictions and downright mad bits).

    What happened after your moment, branie? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭branie


    I just put the thought aside really, and continoud on with the ceremony as usual, and my life


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    You took the blue pill then. :)


  • Moderators Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭D4RK ONION


    Thread of the day, it was destined to be so :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    I had mine when the communion bread changed from thin paper-like stuff to chunky cardboard.

    I can't even explain why. I just stopped going to mass after that....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,658 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    i stopped going to mass before everyone else stopped going to mass
    now i go to mass again just because it's so ironic and i don't want to be a sheep like everyone else
    or a lamb of god....
    ....

    olb4A.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Knasher


    You should have stayed until the end, turns out he was only having a bit of a laugh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    I don't know whats going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭ZorbaTehZ


    "Unless I dare to speak quite openly, I will simply keep quite about Abraham, and above all not diminish him so that by that very fact he becomes a snare for the weak"

    Apparently, if you are a real christian you're supposed to admire him for his devotion. Another one of the oddities of christianity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    branie wrote: »
    I just put the thought aside really, and continoud on with the ceremony as usual, and my life
    You see, I don't understand why anyone would do that. To me it's like saying 'Well, I thought that jumping into a river was a bad idea, but since Jimmy said it was ok I just put my doubts aside and jumped in." If you have doubts about something then it's for a reason and the thing to do is to think about them, meditate on them and come to your own conclusions, not to squash them down and try to ignore them because some guy in a frock says you should.

    While I never remember saying "I am an athiest" I do remember those moments that made me think 'This doesn't sound right', and it was thinking about all those moments that eventually led me to the truth; that christianity was no more true than anything written by the Brother's Grimm, and much less entertaining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭swiftblade


    I remember mine...

    Was only about 10-12 at the time, which is a bit sad i suppose. The collection plate was being handed around and my mum gave me money to put in it. I said "Why don't you just put it in for me?"
    Never got a reply. She just looked at me funny.
    Suppose it was maybe some sort of "pay your way to heaven type thing"

    Never looked back since :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,073 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    strobe wrote: »
    I don't know whats going on.
    Join the club. It's better to admit that, than to claim you do know when you don't, or fill the gaps in your knowledge with some ancient tribal crap. ;)

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    branie wrote: »
    It was a couple a year ago, at the Easter Vigil, and during the reading when God tells Abraham to sacrifice Isaac. I rememember thinking - "What kind of god would do that?"

    I know what you mean. I've long thought that a god that knows every last person inside out and has created them just so, yet still demands their love and utter obedience is a bit of an attention-seeking emo.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I know what you mean. I've long thought that a god that knows every last person inside out and has created them just so, yet still demands their love and utter obedience is a bit of an attention-seeking emo.
    We're all made in God's likeness, you know. Especially emos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭swampgas


    I find it weird that the story of god testing Abraham by asking him to sacrifice Isaac can be told without people recoiling in horror from it. Talk about god being an evil twisted tyrant!

    Never mind the insane idea that a loving (and omnipotent) father would choose to torture his child to death as a way of fixing the flaws in his earlier creations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭userod


    My most recent Atheist moment was during Avatar when Jake mentions how Neytiri says "all energy is only borrowed".

    Ironically, it reminds me of what the priest used say on Ash Wednesday as I used leave him rub that s**t on my head, something like, "thou art dust and into dust thou shall return".... ya ya... get away pervert.


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