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Camo?

  • 21-04-2011 5:25pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,788 ✭✭✭


    I was just wondering is buying ACU camo or Desert Digital a waste of money since we dont have any real desert or tan environments around, I was thinking ACU would be good for urban and some forest area's but still skeptical on going out and buying a full set of helmet, balaclava, vest etc. if it doesn't blend in well with most courses, what experiences did you have playing with these camo's on or playing against someone who did have it on?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Firekitten


    Do you think greys and tans will blend in at woodland sites? Chances are they dont. however, in airsoft, its not as big a concern. If youd like to wear it, wear it, at most sites, it shouldnt be a huge issue, more visible yes, but more visible than fairly visible is still visible. At most sites, green camos dont do too much, the ranges are too close.

    I've skirmished in both, its not ideal if you intend to blend in, but they can be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭swiftblade


    ACU (UCP) I find pretty bad. I have yet to find a situation where it blends well.

    But it's each to their own and all that. Use what you like the look of.

    Most camo patterns have their disadvantages and advantages. Some will blend better in certain areas than others. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    I use UCP (ACU). I stand out like a sore thumb (which is an advantage if I'm shooting photos instead of rifles, but I'm usually a loud, shouty controlling person anyway, so it doesn't bother me). It blends into precisely nothing (except a couch) and 90% of the equipment available in that pattern are so noticeably different to one another, it's actually rubbish looking up close too. Get a decent uniform by Propper, or even a surplus one direct from the sources, and you'll never get anything else that'll actually match the pattern or colours. Vests, pouches, bags, hats, everything. All varying shades of greys and "ranger greens" depending on who made them.


    If you want a camo that's effective, look elsewhere. If you want a camo that looks good for posing, look elsewhere. If you want to do a US Army impression, then by all means go for it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Firekitten


    Acu does work rather well in urban environments and at night... VERY well at night... (And DFS)

    My fav us look, is the mixed look.. seems more authentic tbh... UCP bdus... tan vest, woodland pouches... it blends a bit more, disrupts, and looks great :D

    Combinations work great and look propper Ally:
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    Brings a less 'shiny new soldier' look, and it works slightly better than all grey ucp...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    Desert would actually be more effective. At the very least, it has the brown elements that will offer some concealment in wooded areas or in dry(ish) muddy areas.
    UCP blends in with rocks. It's surprisingly effective in mountainous terrain with sparse growth, and somewhat so in tundra conditions, but we have neither here (although there's an argument for the latter last winter).


    Honestly, if I wasn't so heavily invested in it, I'd go another route. I spent a long time accurately creating an impression of a specific unit in the 10th Mountain division and I'm at odds to let it go. If I was arsed getting a new loadout, it'd like be something along the lines of CadPat (I've never understood why that's so overlooked here) or one of the newer experimental patterns. NWU is also one to consider, if you want something unusual and digital. I've not seen anyone use it, but it's dark-ish pattern could be advantageous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Firekitten


    I have too many loadouts :D After a set of MTP now, and a lovely osprey :D Going to big it up brit style once more... Ive gotten bored of my lovely functional comfortable temperate dpm and plce.... oh wait, stuff that :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    If I had time to skirmish anymore, I'd probably just go out in my CragHoppers. I'm sure it'd be seen as a "PMC/SF" look, but really I'd be doing it because they're more comfortable and less hassle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Firekitten


    lol, Last CC2, I couldnt be arsed sunday morning, so rolled in the civvy jeans I'd turned up in, Lemming's fleace, a vietnam buttpack with the sling on it for mags, Fobus holster in belt, and my akm, which I took the stock off, and fashioned a single point sling for on the end of the stock trunion... Radio clipped to buttpack sling... Had a guy come up to me and tell me what an awesome PMC look i had going, and how it looked really authentic.

    I just grumbled, and returned to my coffee and cigarette and the hard task of waking up... I didn't mean to look 'authentic'.. so many airsofters are so keen lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    I did skirmish once in jeans, shoes and a Leinster rugby shirt because I wasn't arsed getting changed. I threw on a chest rig and a Serpa, and headed in to the game which had already started (fashionably late). A combination of what I looked like and me totally playing up the Ross O'Carroll-Kelly reference that Hive made as I walked in made everyone assume I was some douchey newbie with more money than sense.
    That was arguably the best camo ever. I ran riot in those games until they copped on that I had more than a game or two under my Calvin Klein belt.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Firekitten


    hehe, works every time. Seems to work more often for me... I rock up at a game in civies, I get people offering to show me how the gun works, or 'dont worry love, we'll look after you!'

    Usually lasts till I drop a handfull of enemy or scream a contact order lol, then they go 'eh'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭swiftblade


    Im getting more and more lazy regards this. Most Saturdays its a black hoodie and flektarn trousers. Shoulder holster for my M9 and couple of MP5 mids on a belt. Less is definitely more in the current weather.

    It's also nice to feel like a noob again :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,472 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Firekitten wrote: »
    hehe, works every time. Seems to work more often for me... I rock up at a game in civies, I get people offering to show me how the gun works, or 'dont worry love, we'll look after you!'

    Usually lasts till I drop a handfull of enemy or scream a contact order lol, then they go 'eh'.

    ah yes...the old wolf in kitten's clothing disguise :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Firekitten


    I don't pretend to be a newbie... they just presume :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭Spooky-Vinny


    Camo in airsoft is just a fashion statement really!
    Most people tend to either:
    1: Wear the camo of their team
    2: specific load-out they're going for
    3: just whatever the hell they want!

    I say wear what you want! it doesn't affect the game what so ever! and UCP and desert camo worked amazingly well last time I was at redbarn! I say go for it!
    xXx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭Decoy


    I say wear what you want!

    I fully agree, provided it's not tracksuit w/hoodie + white runners & obligatory €10 full face mask. Civvies are fine but the skanger look just doesn't work for me in airsoft. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    Camo in airsoft is just a fashion statement really!

    I resent that.





    This is way more than "just" fashion.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭Spooky-Vinny


    Decoy wrote: »
    I fully agree, provided it's not tracksuit w/hoodie + white runners & obligatory €10 full face mask. Civvies are fine but the skanger look just doesn't work for me in airsoft. :mad:
    I second that! plus wearing runners is plane dangerous anyways! ankle support is VERY important!
    xXx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    Decoy wrote: »
    Civvies are fine but the skanger look just doesn't work for me in airsoft. :mad:

    Really? I'd see that as even more of an incentive to open fire?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭MerryDespot


    Exactly Decoy - camo is moot for most skirmish games. For me it's entirely a matter of what I like to wear. Some days it'll be tan, green or civvies. But never, never the hoodie, trainers and stubby with box mag combo...
    I have a well known soft spot for multicam - regardless of it's current popularity - just because I like it.
    But still have time for marpat (temperate and desert), danish m84 and swedish pattern camo.
    I just think UCP is the work of satan - but that's a matter of personal taste. I respect Dex's loadout though - I know how much effort he has put into it to get it right (and how much has been spent on it). Even if it only does blend with a couch:
    couchcamo.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    Even if it only does blend with a couch:

    Where do you think I've been for the last two years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭MerryDespot


    If your living room gets invaded Dex, you're sorted. Otherwise...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    I'm defending what's important. I have my kitchen decorated the same way. As long as I can defend my ability to drink tea, read books and watch documentaries, I'm solid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭Decoy


    NakedDex wrote: »
    Really? I'd see that as even more of an incentive to open fire?

    Waste of ammo, and you know you're in no danger from their cheapo clone AK running @ 200fps (just the one hi-cap mag) so why bother? Besides, by the time they get close enough for me to be in range of their toys I will have heard them coming due to the bottle of BBs rattling around the front pocket of the hoodie and taken appropriate action. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    Never underestimate. I've been that guy with the underpowered gun walking around in civvies instead of taking the uber-pimped gun and camo-ing up. It can be alarmingly effective camo in itself. Suddenly you can hide in plain sight.
    Just because the guy/girl is wearing a GAA jersey and carrying a knackered looking rental gun, doesn't mean he/she doesn't know enough to get around your entire team and pick you off from behind.

    I've done it, I've seen it happen and I've had it happen to me (Liamo, if you're listening, your dozen-man knife kill is still the stuff of legends).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,463 ✭✭✭Leftyflip


    Decoy wrote: »
    Waste of ammo, and you know you're in no danger from their cheapo clone AK running @ 200fps (just the one hi-cap mag) so why bother? Besides, by the time they get close enough for me to be in range of their toys I will have heard them coming due to the bottle of BBs rattling around the front pocket of the hoodie and taken appropriate action. :D
    Don't take this the wrong way, but that kind of attitude is pretty damaging to the game - and you're fairly well known from your youtube videos too. Remember, we all start somewhere, and most of us started like that, some of us like to game like that, but it doesn't mean you can bash them cos they only have a JG Ak and a hicap...


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