Finally getting to change my car!help please

selfbuildkk

Ok im looking for advice on a new car, im finally trading up from a 01 vw passat 1.6 petrol. I'm a 29 yr old no need for space for kids but would like extra room for the odd friend or two heading off for the weekends.budget is up to 20k looking for anything over 08 for the cheaper tax and must be diesel. Something thats good looking and fun to drive. looking for something unordinary (if thats a word) good reliablity etc.Appreciate all replies and suggestions.no skodas or vw's just looking for a change.thanks

blackwolf

BMW Coupe would be nice

robtri

not sure on the tax piece...

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Alfa-Romeo/159/1.9-Dies/201113201850643/advert?channel=CARS

blackwolf

Alphas are very poor when you want to resell the dont hold their value at all

mickob16

Audi A4 TDI and put a chicken wire kit on with RS4 badge..Respect:D:D

bazz26

Spend just over half your budget on something like this:

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201115202007926

The savings over buying a 08 would pay the higher tax for many years and the previous owners have already taken the hit on the worst of the depreciation.

selfbuildkk

Alfa is nice but not my cup of tea, i have my reasons for disliking them which i wont go into but just not for me.A4 fair enough but theyre just too boring on the inside and a lot of money for not a lot of spec. Trying to think outside the box myself but not coming up with much, all replies and help greatly appreciated.

Zubeneschamali

selfbuildkk wrote: »

Alfa is nice but not my cup of tea, i have my reasons for disliking them which i wont go into but just not for me.

Wow, you met that guy down the pub, too! He gets around a lot!

Zubeneschamali

blackwolf wrote: »

Alphas are very poor when you want to resell the dont hold their value at all

That's good news for the second owner, not bad.

MrDerp

selfbuildkk wrote: »

Ok im looking for advice on a new car, im finally trading up from a 01 vw passat 1.6 petrol. I'm a 29 yr old no need for space for kids but would like extra room for the odd friend or two heading off for the weekends.budget is up to 20k looking for anything over 08 for the cheaper tax and must be diesel. Something thats good looking and fun to drive. looking for something unordinary (if thats a word) good reliablity etc.Appreciate all replies and suggestions.no skodas or vw's just looking for a change.thanks

Sorry to pigeon-hole ya but it sounds like you want a premium car, adequately powered, diesel, 08 or later. You and everyone else. Your budget doesn't extend that far.

You can, however, get a very nice car for 20k. So you've got to make a sacrifice one one of Age, Premium, Fuel. What's it to be?

- Age: Older premium diesel and take the hit on the extra 400-500 tax per year but have a rake of miles on it and possible expensive repairs down the road?
- Premium: Drop your premium expectations and get something slightly different. Nice TTiD Saab 93 here: http://www.carzone.ie/search/Saab/9-3/TTiD/201103200902206/advert?channel=CARS. Bags of power but they're supposed to eat front tyres with too much power and weight on the front wheel drive.
- Fuel: Buy a nice petrol for 15K and spend the 5K on the extra tax and fuel for the next 3 years.

I know a lad with a budget of 15K and he's already spent money getting 320Ds up on ramps for checks, finding 1-3K worth of work needed on each one, with garages not willing to include all of the work in the price. He just can't find that perfect 06-07 320D. I'd say he has BMW on his brain and it can't be shook. You've the most dangerous budget out there, to be honest, 15-20K gets you a lot of car, but can tempt you into premium.

If it were me, I wouldn't spend 20K on a 4/5 year old diesel. It's going to be high mileage and there's a chance of things going wrong. That would leave me with a choice of going petrol, or leaving the 'premium' market. I was considering a mad purchase myself until recently. I sacrificed the lot and got an 07 petrol, but with savings so no car loan. The difference in price between an 07 petrol and 07 diesel for the car I chose was 3K. It would take me 3 years to make back that 3K on fuel. And I'd have been borrowing that 3K. F**k that. The loan would have cost the same as the extra petrol. Ok, I'd have a little extra resale value afterwards but petrol is funner

Sellers are looking for a stupid premium on one-owner diesels over petrols because they can. In some cases the same premium as on a new car. Madness.

pburns

What about -
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=Car&carID=201111201604354&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Subaru%20Legacy%2C%20Year%3A%202008%2E%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below%2E&CFID=45982843&CFTOKEN=24529514

A 08 diesel, new tax bands, a bit different. This one was up for less than a week before it sold...

Vertakill

I hate hearing people pigeon holing themselves to 08+ cars for the motor tax.

If the 08 car is thousands dearer than an 07 because of this, it negates the savings you're going to make unless you keep the car for quite a while.

selfbuildkk wrote: »

looking for something unordinary (if thats a word)

If you're going with the idea of 08+ cars up to 20k that are diesel, you're probably looking at the usual suspects I think.

Homer

12 posts in and nobody has suggested it yet :eek:

Irishpimpdude

2009 BMW 3 SERIES 320d M Sport 4dr Diesel Saloon
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201115384434594/sort/priceasc/usedcars/price-from/10000/maximum-age/up_to_2_years_old/fuel-type/diesel/price-to/17000/model/3_series/make/bmw/radius/1500/postcode/wc1x8ph/page/1?logcode=p

Tea 1000

Hardly used:
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Lexus/IS220/IS-220-D/201113201853114/advert?channel=CARS

pburns

Homer wrote: »

12 posts in and nobody has suggested it yet :eek:

The OP said no VWs or Skoda...

robtri

go back one year to 2007 and pick up something like this... asking 14k.... 6k will buy you many years of motor tax....

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Ford/Mondeo/ST-TDCI/201103200902803/advert?channel=CARS

great great cars to drive....

mickob16

Homer wrote: »

12 posts in and nobody has suggested it yet :eek:

He said he wanted a Premium car not a Supercar:D:D

Gael23

I would suggest pushing the budget for a 3 series. Other than that I think you need to be more open to somethong like the Audi A$.

selfbuildkk

Thanks for all the replies, sorry about the delay in getting back. Like the idea of the lexus, and the will have to do the sums in relation to going lower in the years and off setting the extra tax costs versus the savings.

Kilmac1

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Hardly used:
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Lexus/IS220/IS-220-D/201113201853114/advert?channel=CARS

dads mates on his second engine and its only 08 so beware. has owned it from new.

zilog_jones

What about a Citroen C5? It certainly would fit your "unordinary" criteria. They are quite spacious, very comfortable and the Hydractive suspension is great for crappy Irish roads, though not all the newer models (2008 onwards) have it (it's hard to tell). HDi engines are generally reliable, they are also used in Fords, Volvos, Minis, etc. - don't pay any attention to pub talk when it comes to French cars

You could get a '10 for €20k easily. Of course the depreciation won't be great if you're planning on selling it on soon enough...

selfbuildkk

In relation to the depreciation im paying out 20k and wouldnt mind having to add 5k to whatever im trading in every 2 to 3 years to get a new motor. I dunno how unreasonable those figures are, i know obviously it depends on what ill be trading to each time. I think that might rule out a lot of makes not only the citroen.

selfbuildkk

selfbuildkk wrote: »

In relation to the depreciation im paying out 20k and wouldnt mind having to add 5k to whatever im trading in every 2 to 3 years to get a new motor.

€6000 to €9000 every 2 to 3 years

selfbuildkk

there goes that plan!

Tea 1000

Kilmac1 wrote: »

dads mates on his second engine and its only 08 so beware. has owned it from new.

Really? A full engine change? Or just an exaggerated story? If it's a full engine change then that's rare.
They have had their issues, mainly with the 5th injector, but if that was replaced during a recall, or manufactured with the revised one, then there is little else wrong, apart from crappy gear ratios.
But it's a fine chassis to be fair to it. Worth a drive in anyway. Not a lot else interesting in the diesel front without spending more or buying an Alfa, which he doesn't want.