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Civil servant claims she was stalked during gallery visits

  • 20-04-2011 10:30am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭


    A CIVIL servant spent time wandering around the National Gallery when she was supposed to be at work, claiming she was being "stalked".
    Labour inspector Frances Carew (59) remained on full pay for five years despite doing very little work for that period, an Employment Appeals Tribunal (EAT) heard yesterday.
    She was dismissed from the Department of Enterprise in 2009 but her bad attendance record went back as far as 2003.
    Ms Carew, from Lansdowne Village, Sandymount, Dublin 4, also started failing to clock in and out of work from 2004, the tribunal heard.
    Summing up yesterday, tribunal chairman Niamh O'Carroll Kelly said the claimant had spent "five years going into work and doing nothing".
    Ms Carew, who said she was on a net salary of €1,095 fortnightly, took the unfair dismissal case against the department in 2009. She told the tribunal she had been "stalked, harassed and intimidated" by colleagues but admitted she failed to engage with the department's personnel officers to discuss her situation until she heard her salary was being stopped in 2008.
    Ms Carew, who is herself a former EAT employee, didn't even show up for the disciplinary hearing into her poor attendance, the tribunal heard.
    'I knew that there was someone stalking me. It was nasty'
    Shortly after moving to the EAT as a tribunal secretary, she started clocking into work early, leaving the office and then clocking out later.
    "I had lost interest at that stage," she said. "I used to go to the National Gallery and I knew then there was someone stalking me. It was nasty."
    Ms Carew told the tribunal that the intimidation and harassment included the opening of her personal post and the spreading of chocolate on her keyboard.
    Counsel for the department, Cathy Smith, reminded the claimant she had failed to engage with her bosses despite many attempts to talk to her.
    Ms Smith also reminded Ms Carew that she had enjoyed perks while working at the EAT: "You had the second highest rate of mileage amongst tribunal secretaries and three times that of the lowest levels," she said
    Ms Carew claimed that shortly after her transfer to the EAT she started losing out on the most lucrative travel trips to parts of the country, and later began worrying that she was losing out on increments to her salary.
    "I had been travelling to places like Cahirciveen, I love the south-west coast, but then I started getting trips to Louth."
    The tribunal will rule on Ms Carew's case in the coming months.

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/civil-servant-claims-she-was-stalked-during-gallery-visits-2624438.html


    Well now, this woman is a pure beauty.
    Maybe she was being followled by someone wondering where she was at instead of work.
    She would be better off doing nothing, there are loads of people willing to do hard graft these days.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    As I read it I don't think she was just lazy and out to defraud.

    Possibly some mental health issues here and she was not fit to hold down the job


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭fulhamfanincork


    Kill the thieving c***. People like her are what killed this country. Greedy, lazy, beat the system type of people. Well **** her and **** the lot of them.

    Wouldn't mind getting a gun at this stage and sorting the mess out. Lets start with those twats who got a golden handshake and bertie of course. ***** ***** *****.

    Of course I'd never do it but these people have destroyed Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,645 ✭✭✭cml387


    Kill the thieving c***. People like her are what killed this country. Greedy, lazy, beat the system type of people. Well **** her and **** the lot of them.

    Wouldn't mind getting a gun at this stage and sorting the mess out. Lets start with those twats who got a golden handshake and bertie of course. ***** ***** *****.

    Of course I'd never do it but these people have destroyed Ireland

    Don't beat about the bush man,just say what's on your mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    To be honest, it's really managements fault that she has been coming in to work for five years and doing nothing.
    If people can get away with that sort of behaviour, they will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    it took them 5 YEARS to do something about this? At her level, surely they should have clamped down after 5 hours of her sitting around???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭fulhamfanincork


    cml387 wrote: »
    Don't beat about the bush man,just say what's on your mind.

    I'm a raging against the machine but no ones raging with me. Everyone in Ireland is too happy to be raped up the arse and have the cum left inside their poopers! In Greece there were riots, in England there were riots, in Ireland there was nothing except another raping of the Irish people.

    And why ? Because our nations people seem quite happy to raped up the arse by politicians, bankers so on. This is OUR country, not theirs. They were voted in to represent our best interests but have jizzed all over our faces and didn't even have the decency to wipe up. Instead they took a **** on us as well and smeared it all over us. Yet it is only a few people like me that want to start cleaning myself of their cum and **** while the rest are happy rolling around in their bodily excrements. Well **** them too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,645 ✭✭✭cml387


    I think what made it a bit more sensitive was that she was actually employed by the Employment Appeals Tribunal themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    In Greece there were riots, in England there were riots,

    In England a fire extinguisher was thrown off a building
    In Greece three staff in a bank branch died in a fire.

    No thanks, don't want that in Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭smokedeels


    ***** ***** *****

    kiss your mother with that mouth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    In Greece there were riots, in England there were riots, in Ireland there was nothing except another raping of the Irish people.

    Rioting is a good thing now?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭fulhamfanincork


    In England a fire extinguisher was thrown off a building
    In Greece three staff in a bank branch died in a fire.

    No thanks, don't want that in Ireland

    Was the fire caused by the protests?

    So you are one of the people who is quite happy being ****ed by the government. You can go fucck yourseld too.

    You're just as bad as them.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Was the fire caused by the protests?

    So you are one of the people who is quite happy being ****ed by the government. You can go fucck yourseld too.

    You're just as bad as them.

    Banned.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    i dont know whether is cos your from cork... or support fulham... but chill out man...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    What a trainwreck of a public sector employee, and she is sueing them !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    Fan-diddly-tastic. What a great excuse. Gonna use that straight away now with the Boss. Practice run....

    "Ahem, Boss, I'm been stalked so I'm going off to wander round the city, see ya in 2016 - send cheque to the usual address.

    Fingers crossed, wish me luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭kincsem


    She spent five years doing no work before it was noticed (or acted on). Is it that they could not see the wood for the trees? Can you get away with doing no work for three years, then do a bit, and you are ok again for a few years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    She should have a judgement made against her to repay all the money she defrauded the State of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    RedXIV wrote: »
    it took them 5 YEARS to do something about this? At her level, surely they should have clamped down after 5 hours of her sitting around???

    this is the problem with the Civil Service the absolute unwillingness to take sharp, precise, quick affirmative action. solve that problem and you can actually fix huge swathes of the problem in the Civil service. Just that. Find and hire decisive managers who will act with expediency.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,939 ✭✭✭mikedragon32


    this is the problem with the Civil Service the absolute unwillingness to take sharp, precise, quick affirmative action. solve that problem and you can actually fix huge swathes of the problem in the Civil service. Just that. Find and hire decisive managers who will act with expediency.
    I agree with this. Discipline in the Civil Service is far from swift. If someone isn't pulling their weight, a process has to be followed, meetings held in the context of PMDS, then it goes up to HR before bouncing back to a manager to decide first of all if the troublesome employee should be given their increment or not, if not, should it be deferred (and for how long), then there's the annual review and it's really only after all of this that there's any hope of there being proper disciplinary action.

    Fuel for the PS haters, I know, but I for one think the above situation is insane.

    smokedeels wrote:
    kiss your mother with that mouth?
    No, but maybe he touches her with those fingers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭COYW


    i dont know whether is cos your from cork... or support fulham... but chill out man...

    Has to be Cork. Fulham people are super relaxed by the Thames.

    On the OP, no surprise that this kind of thing has gone on. Prime example of the kind of behaviour that needs to be eradicated.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    In England a fire extinguisher was thrown off a building
    In Greece three staff in a bank branch died in a fire.

    No thanks, don't want that in Ireland

    Im sure you would rather have a sore ass instead !!


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'd be well ashamed if that was my mother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Summing up yesterday, tribunal chairman Niamh O'Carroll Kelly said the claimant had spent "five years going into work and doing nothing".

    Ross would not be, loike, impressed, loike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,240 ✭✭✭bullpost


    Put down that keyboard and come out with your hands in the air!

    Kill the thieving c***. People like her are what killed this country. Greedy, lazy, beat the system type of people. Well **** her and **** the lot of them.

    Wouldn't mind getting a gun at this stage and sorting the mess out. Lets start with those twats who got a golden handshake and bertie of course. ***** ***** *****.

    Of course I'd never do it but these people have destroyed Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 806 ✭✭✭bonzos


    In sure Jack O Connor or some other union head will be on the radio this evening defending this woman.....under croke park we cannot force her to do her work,but we will endeavor to change her work practices.etc....usual BS,meanwhile in the real world 450,000 people are crying out for work


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    RedXIV wrote: »
    it took them 5 YEARS to do something about this? At her level, surely they should have clamped down after 5 hours of her sitting around???

    Following reforms flowing from the Croke Park Agreement, these cases shall in future be resolved in 4 1/2 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    I wish someone would leave chocolate on my keyboard. 5 years of doing nothing. Actually, I'm in work right now - doing absolutely nothing whatsoever. But I work in the private sector so that's okay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    Am just after reading an article about her in yesterday's Times. She appears to have been difficult and delusional and is now suffering both from a persecution crisis and her own massive sense of entitlement. There was one line about how she saw mileage as a 'perk' and had 'developed a fondness for Cahirciveen, but "they kept" posting her to Louth'. Bless.

    They should have got rid of her years ago in otherwords. As one of the other posters said though, she possibly does have some mental health issues. Perhaps not dealing with her was an act of kindness, but if the case goes her way this woman, who clearly hasn't worked in years, could also end up getting a massive payout for unfair dismissal.

    Not being able to fire civil servants easily could be half the problem here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭Azureus


    Its people like her that give the public/civil service a bad name.
    She was plain taking the pish, the fact she is now sueing them makes it seem like she has something wrong upstairs. Also, the fact that it took five years to act upon says something seriously wrong with the department that should also be looked into.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭bamboozle


    unbelievable story, you couldnt make this up, i'd heard a similar but funnier story from my mate in dept of health that i wont even bother fully posting as i'll just be accused of public sector bashing, but it did involve a guy who used ring work (dept of health) every month or so to say he was available to come in for work if he was needed!


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