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Would Zidane have gotten into the current barca team

  • 18-04-2011 4:23pm
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    If so whose place would he have gotten, has to be iniesta for me if he does get in?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    Zidane would get into any team. EVER.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭TonyD79


    Iniesta are you serious??? He is one of their 4/5 world class players..Pedro would be the obvious one!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭xtal191


    Yep Pedro for me too, Iniesta can play Pedros position.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭The Floyd p


    Pedro.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Comfortably.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Essien


    Johner wrote: »
    Zidane would get into any team. EVER.

    This is both true and spelled correctly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    of course
    Zidane is better than Messi,Xavi,Iniesta,Villa & Pedro
    Messi will probably overtake him when he is finished


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,832 ✭✭✭✭JPA


    Who is Zindane?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,358 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    JPA wrote: »
    Who is Zindane?

    Enzo Zidane, plays for Real Madrid youth team.

    His dad is a famous actor or singer or something!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    I'd have him over anyone in that team, bar Xavi.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭bUILDERtHEbOB


    I doubt it tbh, with him playing in Qatar at 30 I'd say he's pretty much on the way down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭Hannibal


    Zidane is without doubt one of the best ever, but this Barca team has a certain style and philosophy that I personally don't think would suit Zidane. It's one thing saying he's better than this player or that player but this Barca team is greater than the sum of its parts.
    If Zidane was in Barca's squad, they would make space for him no doubt. But I don't think they would buy him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Would ZZ look better with hair or totally bald? I preferred his classic friar tuck cut from the early days. Although you could argue that the balder look offered greater aerodynamic qualities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭TheBunk1


    Best player I've ever seen anyway in 20 years watchin football (Messi is still a bit behind), so yes. Pedro out!


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    stovelid wrote: »
    Would ZZ look better with hair or totally bald? I preferred his classic friar tuck cut from the early days. Although you could argue that the balder look offered greater aerodynamic qualities.
    I thank you for bringing this up; it is important that the serious issues are debated here in the soccer forum. It doesn't happen enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    I thank you for bringing this up; it is important that the serious issues are debated here in the soccer forum. It doesn't happen enough.

    He needs to put the speed lines in his hair ala aaron Lennon starting in his eyebrow and finishing at the back of his head that should trump the aerodynamic advantage he would of gotten from shaving completely.


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    JPA wrote: »
    Who is Zindane?

    Sinbad's nephew


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    I too don't think Zidane would fit in. Better individually that several players, but I wouldn't be rushing to take Pedro or Villa out of the Barca team and I wouldn't have him ahead of Xavi, Iniesta and then it's a different role to Busquets/Keita/Mascherano


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Bodhisopha


    I'd put him in the Busquets role and tell him to like it or lump it. Desperate to add to his paltry one La Liga and one Champions League title Zidane would no doubt like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭ziggyman17


    TheBunk1 wrote: »
    Best player I've ever seen anyway in 20 years watchin football (Messi is still a bit behind), so yes. Pedro out!


    class player,, would easily get in the barcelona team.. Best player I've ever seen has to be maradona watching him play for napoli was something else,, italian league back then was the strongest league in world football, all the worlds best players were playing in italy then and maradona was on a different level to all the other world class players of that time, and this was the time when hachet men could get away with murder..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,240 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Yes he would, and my Dad would batter your dad while I'm at it.

    These type of topics are seriously daft.

    Glazers Out!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    If they had Zidane, they would most likely build the midfield around him.

    If he was at his prime now, he would still be the best player in the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Pretty sure he wouldn't want to. Real through and through.

    In terms of individual skill, he is the best player in history, Maradona a close second and Pelé close again into the 3rd spot. Barça function as a team, a setup that players like Xavi and Messi thrive in, but if Zidane played for a conference side, they'd probably make a fair go at the Champions League.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    tolosenc wrote: »
    Pretty sure he wouldn't want to. Real through and through.

    In terms of individual skill, he is the best player in history, Maradona a close second and Pelé close again into the 3rd spot. Barça function as a team, a setup that players like Xavi and Messi thrive in, but if Zidane played for a conference side, they'd probably make a fair go at the Champions League.

    Eh no, they wouldn't

    How do you make out he was Real through and through? He only moved to Madrid when he was nearly 30 and looking at an exorbitant contract.

    Zidane was too good to leave out of any side but if he was still playing today I dont think Pep would have made a move for him. He was so good, you had to build the team around him and that is not what Barca need. Obviously if he was at Barca he would get into the team as who the hell is going to leave Zidane on the bench.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,267 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Yes, yes he would.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,920 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I'm not sure he would. He was distinctly ordinary for long periods of his club career.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,276 ✭✭✭IRISHSPORTSGUY


    Yes. Better than all their midfielders except Xavi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    People are forgetting the crucial factor that would determine if any player would get into the current barca team - pep.

    I wouldn't see zidane pressing for the ball all that much so the only question is whether pep would make an allowance for him, which I doubt he would.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    Whatever about Barca, Zidane was the ultimate big-game player of his generation. The bigger the game, the better he played and he became unstoppable.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭bamboozling


    I think Zidane is a bit over rated in these parts. You can't take out Pedro to play Zidane, it would be like taking out Xavi so Beckenbauer could play centre half. Either Zidane comes in for Busquests, which won't happen or he replaces Xavi or Iniesta which for me is a no so no he wouldn't start on the Barcelona team of today.

    That post claiming he was the best player in history for overall skill. Fúck me pink! Do you really believe that. There was no indication in Zidane's early career that he was anything special he improved a lot as a player as he got older but he was helped by having quality players around him which meant there was no onus on him defensively to chip in.

    He would often drift in games contributing nothing but every so often he would do something extraordinary and we would see it on tv highlight package and all agree he was the best in the world without seeing the full game. He was a luxury at Madrid.

    To be honest the fact he got 14 red cards during his career is a huge blot on his copybook. He fúcked up in the 2006 World Cup final, his cowardly on Fuad Anwar in the 98 World Cup and his headbutt on Jochen Kientz in the 2000 Champions League.

    I ask how many times was Johan Cruyff sent off during his career having faced far less sympathetic defenders and far less sympathetic referees?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    I think Zidane is a bit over rated in these parts. You can't take out Pedro to play Zidane, it would be like taking out Xavi so Beckenbauer could play centre half. Either Zidane comes in for Busquests, which won't happen or he replaces Xavi or Iniesta which for me is a no so no he wouldn't start on the Barcelona team of today.

    That post claiming he was the best player in history for overall skill. Fúck me pink! Do you really believe that. There was no indication in Zidane's early career that he was anything special he improved a lot as a player as he got older but he was helped by having quality players around him which meant there was no onus on him defensively to chip in.

    He would often drift in games contributing nothing but every so often he would do something extraordinary and we would see it on tv highlight package and all agree he was the best in the world without seeing the full game. He was a luxury at Madrid.

    To be honest the fact he got 14 red cards during his career is a huge blot on his copybook. He fúcked up in the 2006 World Cup final, his cowardly on Fuad Anwar in the 98 World Cup and his headbutt on Jochen Kientz in the 2000 Champions League.

    I ask how many times was Johan Cruyff sent off during his career having faced far less sympathetic defenders and far less sympathetic referees?

    Zidane single-handedly carried France to the WC in 1998, single-handedly carried France to the final in 2006 and won Real Madrid the CL in 2002. He was named the FIFA World player of the year 3 times and was also voted the best European player of the past 50 years in 2004. He had the best technique i have ever seen.

    He got 14 red cards but tbh who really cares. Scholes received his 10th red card last Saturday but these players will be remembered for their play rather than their fouls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Ebbs


    Warper wrote: »
    Whatever about Barca, Zidane was the ultimate big-game player of his generation. The bigger the game, the better he played and he became unstoppable.

    Hes no Kuyt tbf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    He would walk it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Zidane could beat Barcelona on his own.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭bamboozling


    bonerm wrote: »
    Zidane could beat Barcelona on his own.

    He would in his hole. What did he win in his 5 years at Madird, 1 Champions League and 1 League. If he was such a wonderful player why didn't he inspire them to further greatness.

    To Warper;

    What about the 2002 World Cup? And also he did not carry the France 98 team to the world cup on his own. Don't delude yourself.

    Zidane was a fantastic player when things were going well but when the chips were down he was rarely seen.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    He would in his hole. What did he win in his 5 years at Madird, 1 Champions League and 1 League. If he was such a wonderful player why didn't he inspire them to further greatness.

    I said he'd beat them ON HIS OWN. The other 10 guys on his team just get in his way.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,920 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Warper wrote: »
    Zidane single-handedly carried France to the WC in 1998

    Rubbish. He got sent off and missed crucial games. that France team was full of quality players and leaders who were playing cohesively. You'd have a point as regards 2006 but to say he single-handedly won WC 98 is garbage.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭tdv123


    Yes of course he would. He's one of the top 3 players of the last 20 years & possibly the best.

    You just push Iniesta into Pedro Or Villas role. Neither of which have been anything special this season & certainly would not come close to keeping Zidane out of any team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Bodhisopha


    So Zidane single handedly carried this squad to WC glory?
    No. Pos. Player DoB/Age Caps Club
    1 GK Bernard Lama 7 April 1963 (aged 35) 37 West Ham United
    2 DF Vincent Candela 24 October 1973 (aged 24) 10 Roma
    3 DF Bixente Lizarazu 9 December 1969 (aged 28) 32 Bayern Munich
    4 MF Patrick Vieira 23 June 1976 (aged 21) 7 Arsenal
    5 DF Laurent Blanc 19 November 1965 (aged 32) 68 Marseille
    6 FW Youri Djorkaeff 9 March 1968 (aged 30) 37 Internazionale
    7 MF Didier Deschamps (c) 15 October 1968 (aged 29) 69 Juventus
    8 DF Marcel Desailly 7 September 1968 (aged 29) 41 Milan
    9 FW Stéphane Guivarc'h 6 September 1970 (aged 27) 6 Auxerre
    10 MF Zinedine Zidane 23 June 1972 (aged 25) 33 Juventus
    11 MF Robert Pirès 29 October 1973 (aged 24) 13 Metz
    12 FW Thierry Henry 17 August 1977 (aged 20) 3 Monaco
    13 MF Bernard Diomède 23 January 1974 (aged 24) 6 Auxerre
    14 MF Alain Boghossian 27 October 1970 (aged 27) 6 Sampdoria
    15 DF Lilian Thuram 1 January 1972 (aged 26) 32 Parma
    16 GK Fabien Barthez 28 June 1971 (aged 26) 12 Monaco
    17 MF Emmanuel Petit 22 September 1970 (aged 27) 17 Arsenal
    18 DF Frank Lebœuf 22 January 1968 (aged 30) 13 Chelsea
    19 MF Christian Karembeu 3 December 1970 (aged 27) 31 Real Madrid
    20 FW David Trezeguet 15 October 1977 (aged 20) 4 Monaco
    21 FW Christophe Dugarry 24 March 1972 (aged 26) 23 Marseille
    22 GK Lionel Charbonnier 25 October 1966 (aged 31) 1 Auxerre

    Sweet Jesus.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭tdv123


    Bodhisopha wrote: »
    So Zidane single handedly carried this squad to WC glory?



    Sweet Jesus.

    Ohhhhhh I wouldnt go that far but if you think so each to there own I guess. But that was a quality squad.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Bodhisopha


    tdv123 wrote: »
    Ohhhhhh I wouldnt go that far but if you think so each to there own I guess. But that was a quality squad.

    That's the point i'm making, hombre.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    It's also worth considering that Barcelona pick players to fit the system. There are fellas on that team who are probably nowhere near World XI level imho (eg Maxwell, Pique, Valdes, Pedro) but are perfect for the way Barca play.

    So just because Zidane is the best player of his generation doesn't necessarily mean he'd be perfect for Barca (tho I reckon he'd manage).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭shano_88



    Busquests


    Xavi
    Zidane


    --Iniesta
    Villia
    Messi--


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