cliquey workplaces

fryup

Did you ever work in a cliquey workplace, where certain people only talk to certain people, where the atmosphere in the canteen is frosty and you're too intimidated to open your mouth in case of a condesending comment.

Well i've experienced it and mostly in this country it has to be said..even amongst blokes there's a bitchy sneer culture, kinda sad i think but maybe thats just the way it is these days.

and you...

kfallon

Cliques are everywhere, not just in work!

One man's clique is another man's gang of friends! Who cares, hang out and talk to those you like, has anybody ever not made a sneery comment about someone else? I doubt it!

Biggins

Yes, have come across many places like that.
Won't name the businesses I found it in but in general to some degree, its universal everywhere.

danniemcq

Hi, Welcome to adult life.

just like secondary school, except people bitch more

fryup

danniemcq wrote: »

Hi, Welcome to adult life.

just like secondary school, except people bitch more

yes, but wouldn't you think people would grow out of it, once they get to a certain age > late 20s

stovelid

They just don't like you.

orourkeda

fryup wrote: »

yes, but wouldn't you think people would grow out of it, once they get to a certain age > late 20s

You expect adults to act like adults do you?

fryup

but how can anyone not like me, i'm perfect in every way

pow wow

Yes. Usually gaggles of women of a certain 'vintage' versus everyone else, except my last job where it was societal misfits versus everyone else. Don't miss either place

kfallon

fryup wrote: »

but how can anyone not like me, i'm perfect in every way

^^^^ There's the reason Mr 'Up Your Own Hole' :pac:

danniemcq

fryup wrote: »

yes, but wouldn't you think people would grow out of it, once they get to a certain age > late 20s

not a hope! everytime i'm out in pub with mates the girls do nothing but chat about other people every little tid bit is spread. Us guys though mainly drink or ripp the piss outta each other.

Come on people even talk and gossip and bitch about people in soaps. its how the world works sadly.

wish i could remember that quote from the last big bang theory now

Wazdakka

Clique's are everywhere in life..

Some you're a part of.. Some you're not..
It's never the end of the world either way


Unless of course it's some kind of devil worshipping, apocalypse wanting type clique....

Fremen

fryup wrote: »

Well i've experienced it and mostly in this country it has to be said..even amongst blokes there's a bitchy sneer culture, kinda sad i think but maybe thats just the way it is these days.

I'm guessing you've worked in more Irish companies though. I think it's more or less human nature.

Since I hit my twenties, my attitude to people like that has changed a lot. It used to be the case that I'd look up to the "cool" exclusive group (though I never would have admitted it at the time). Nowadays, the people I respect are the people who are nice to everyone, even when the social order doesn't dictate that they have to be.

RichieC

I'm a one man Clique.

Forever Alone..

danniemcq

Fremen wrote: »

I'm guessing you've worked in more Irish companies though. I think it's more or less human nature.

Since I hit my twenties, my attitude to people like that has changed a lot. It used to be the case that I'd look up to the "cool" exclusive group (though I never would have admitted it at the time). Nowadays, the people I respect are the people who are nice to everyone, even when the social order doesn't dictate that they have to be.

even terrorists?

kfallon

As Oscar Wilde once said, "There's only one thing worse than being talked about.....not being talked about!"

Very true that but I'm sure he also prob said at one time, "Ride the ring off me!" so........ :pac:

stovelid

As long as I can work with them with the minimum of fuss and none of them smell, I couldn't care less if they want to go drinking with me. I've got friends to do that with already.

kfallon

stovelid wrote: »

As long as I can work with them with the minimum of fuss and none of them smell, I couldn't care less if they want to go drinking with me. I've got friends to do that with already.

Well said

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alexa5x5

fryup wrote: »

yes, but wouldn't you think people would grow out of it, once they get to a certain age > late 20s

On the contrary, I think people just get better at it.

kfallon

alexa5x5 wrote: »

On the contrary, I think people just get better at it.

Too true, phones, emails, IM's, clandestine meetings in offices, there are just no end to the possibilities of cutting the back off someone in work these days

P.S. in future when I say 'Thread Closed' no more posts :pac:

alexa5x5

kfallon wrote: »

Too true, phones, emails, IM's, clandestine meetings in offices, there are just no end to the possibilities of cutting the back off someone in work these days

P.S. in future when I say 'Thread Closed' no more posts :pac:

Stop bullying me!!!! :(:(

flanzer

Yep cliques are everywhere. It's the animal instinct in all of us...schools of dolphins, prides of lions, cliques in workplaces etc etc

kfallon

alexa5x5 wrote: »

Stop bullying me!!!! :(:(

I'm 'advising', not 'bullying'

Teyla Emmagan

Some companies/organisations (e.g. sporting clubs) seem to breed cliqueiness - and in other places it doesn't exist at all. It's an odd thing..

IMO anyway women are by far the worst for it. I've been in a good few new environments over the years where the girls ignored me and the guys were far more welcoming (presumably because I'm so hot etc, natch ).

In general I tend to ignore anyone who ignores me, and maybe I've missed making friends with a lot of naturally shy people over the years, but I've also never bothered trying to ingratiate myself with a bunch of total losers either..

kfallon

flanzer wrote: »

Yep cliques are everywhere. It's the animal instinct in all of us...schools of dolphins, prides of lions, cliques in workplaces etc etc

Cliques are usually a group of friends! But people who are not in that group refer to that group of friends as 'cliques' especially if they don't like certain people in that group.

Clique is often a term of jealousy!

pragmatic1

The OP is right. Its not just women. Men can act like little bitches too.

kfallon

pragmatic1 wrote: »

The OP is right. Its not just women. Men can act like little bitches too.

Technically you're on here bitching about the little bitches!!!

alexa5x5

pragmatic1 wrote: »

The OP is right. Its not just women. Men can act like little bitches too.

Really? How do men go about it?

flanzer

kfallon wrote: »

Cliques are usually a group of friends!

Not necessarily. It's about gathering and excluding people. I know of people who will been give a false sense of security to other members of the 'clique' but would chop the bollix off people within the clique to gain notoriety.

Last public notable example of this would be Richard Bruton in the Fine Gael clique

kfallon

alexa5x5 wrote: »

Really? How do men go about it?

The same as women but we prob don't do it as often and we just refer to everyone we don't like as a "fooking eejit" or a "prick"

The males also like the dirty look standoff too as we walk past each other

Fremen

danniemcq wrote: »

even terrorists?

Especially terrorists.

alexa5x5

kfallon wrote: »

The same as women but we prob don't do it as often and we just refer to everyone we don't like as a "fooking eejit" or a "prick"

The males also like the dirty look standoff too as we walk past each other

Hhhmm always thought men where a bit fairer and more accepting, guess I was wrong.

pragmatic1

kfallon wrote: »

Technically you're on here bitching about the little bitches!!!

OMG you're like such a loser and stuff.

kfallon

alexa5x5 wrote: »

Hhhmm always thought men where a bit fairer and more accepting, guess I was wrong.

We prob are tbh but when we don't like someone that's it, they'll know about it pretty quick. We're not as two faced in that respect but it all gets a bit macho at times especially if it ever boils over into a work football blitz or something competitive like that!

Oh we're such strange creatures us humans!

kfallon

pragmatic1 wrote: »

OMG you're like such a loser and stuff.

You're not on Jersey shore now.......

pragmatic1

alexa5x5 wrote: »

Hhhmm always thought men where a bit fairer and more accepting, guess I was wrong.

Nah they're just as bad. There was a lad in my college class who used to talk bad about everyone the second they werent around. He was worse than any woman I've ever met.
Its going to get him in big trouble some day.

Used to be bad myself but now make a conscious effort no to. Its a character flaw.

Archeron

I once worked in a place that had mostly women, who partook in what they called "chipper Thursday". On this day, everybody would get chips from the local chippy and get together for a good old gossip in the main sales office. One would go and get the food, one would bring in the cutlery, one would bring in a teaset (I kid you not, actual teapot and everything) and so on, so they could all sit around eating grease and pretending they were high class ladies discussing the topics of the day. The topics of the day was mostly what was happening in the soaps.

In my first week there, before I knew about this creepy ritual, I made the offhand comment that I dont really like chipper food, and instantly became a pariah in their eyes and lifetime exclusion from their clique was mine.

It was one of the weirdest places I've ever worked.

Note to people in question, high class ladies dont leave a bang of fish and vinegar in their wake!!

biko

We prefer the term "circle of friends".

Aidric

biko wrote: »

We prefer the term "circle of friends".

Hi Maeve. Your last 15 novels were shit.

flash1080

fryup wrote: »

yes, but wouldn't you think people would grow out of it, once they get to a certain age > late 20s

People should grow out of it in their early 20s at the latest tbh.

I've never had the misfortune to work in a cliquey workplace, don't understand why some people would be so ****ing stupid.

philstar

I find its always more prevelant in an open-plan office environment.

W.Shakes-Beer

Yes to the cliques. Bástards the lot of them!

Essentially though aren't we all part of some form of clique; be it friends from college etc.

I suppose though that shouldn't really be present in a work scenario.

kfallon

W.Shakes-Beer wrote: »

Essentially though aren't we all part of some form of clique; be it friends from college etc.

Exactly!!!
You might think it's a circle of friends, to others it's a nasty little 'clique', it's human nature to like some people and dislike others!

stovelid

People are overthinking this all a tad, I thinkl.

gurramok

Has been going on for years in my workplace. You have to be 'in the loop' to be invited to stuff and then they wonder why you never go out with them after, hypocrites!!

I notice new employees are better to get on with than the old skool clique, they don't tolerate that crap.