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Last supper took place a day earlier...

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    Irish Fire wrote: »

    Who really cares???

    Exactly... so why the thread? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    Jesus was also born in September,

    where is your thread on that OP?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    Burn the bible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭dx22


    Breaking news - cat stuck up tree


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    why cant i get a drink in a pub on 'good-monday-tuesday-wednesday-thursday-whatever/'


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Irish Fire


    danniemcq wrote: »
    Jesus was also born in September,

    where is your thread on that OP?

    How do you know? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Irish Fire


    Burn the bible.

    And most of the feckers that bash it.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Truly a ground-breaking discovery, certainly proves once and for all the whole thing is nonsense.

    Y'know, asides from the logic and everything else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    dx22 wrote: »
    Breaking news - cat stuck up tree

    correction tree stuck up cat


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭baalthor


    danniemcq wrote: »
    Jesus was also born in September,

    where is your thread on that OP?

    But his parents being steoretypicaly thrifty Jews told him his birthday was Dec 25th so they'd only have to buy him one combined xmas/bday present


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Irish Fire


    danniemcq wrote: »
    correction tree stuck up cat


    Sideways.......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,975 ✭✭✭W.Shakes-Beer


    So what, people were actually paying attention to the "re-heating" of the last supper?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    Irish Fire wrote: »
    How do you know? :)

    *Was Jesus born on December 25, or in December at all?

    Although it’s not impossible, it seems unlikely. The Bible does not specify a date or month. One problem with December is that it would be unusual for shepherds to be “abiding in the field” at this cold time of year when fields were unproductive. The normal practice was to keep the flocks in the fields from Spring to Autumn. Also, winter would likely be an especially difficult time for pregnant Mary to travel the long distance from Nazareth to Bethlehem (70 miles).

    “A more probable time would be late September, the time of the annual Feast of Tabernacles, when such travel was commonly accepted. Thus, it is rather commonly believed (though not certain) that Jesus’ birth was around the last of September. The conception of Christ, however, may have taken place in late December of the previous year. Our Christmas celebration may well be recognized as an honored observation of the incarnation of ‘the Word made flesh’ (John 1:14).”

    “…The probability is that this mighty angel, leading the heavenly host in their praises, was Michael the archangel; this occasion was later commemorated by the early church as Michaelmas (‘Michael sent’), on September 29, the same as the date of the Jewish Feast of Tabernacles. It would have at least been appropriate for Christ to have been born on such a date, for it was at His birth that ‘the Word was made flesh and dwelt (literally tabernacled) among us’ (John 1:14).

    This would mean, then, that His conception took place in late December. Thus, it might well be that when we today celebrate Christ’s birth at what we call Christmas (i.e., ‘Christ sent’), we are actually celebrating His miraculous conception, the time when the Father sent the Son into the world, in the virgin’s womb. This darkest time of the year—the time of the pagan Saturnalia, and the time when the sun (the physical ‘light of the world’) is at its greatest distance from the Holy Land—would surely be an appropriate time for God to send the spiritual ‘light of the world’ into the world as the ‘Savior, which is Christ the Lord’ (Luke 2:11)” [Dr. Henry M. Morris, The Defender’s Study Bible (notes for Luke 2:8,13)].

    (The word “Christmas” means “Christ mass,” a special celebration of the Lord’s supper—called a mass in the Roman Catholic Church and a Communion supper in most Protestant churches.)

    *Why do many Christians celebrate Christmas on the 25th of December, if that is not when he was born?

    The date was chosen by the Roman Catholic Church. Because Rome dominated most of the “Christian” world for centuries, the date became tradition throughout most of Christendom.

    The original significance of December 25 is that it was a well-known festival day celebrating the annual return of the sun. December 21 is the winter solstice (shortest day of the year and thus a key date on the calendar), and December 25 is the first day that ancients could clearly note that the days were definitely getting longer and the sunlight was returning.

    So, why was December 25 chosen to remember Jesus Christ’s birth with a mass (or Communion supper)? Since no one knows the day of his birth, the Roman Catholic Church felt free to chose this date. The Church wished to replace the pagan festival with a Christian holy day (holiday). The psychology was that is easier to take away an unholy (but traditional) festival from the population, when you can replace it with a good one. Otherwise, the Church would have left a void where there was a long-standing tradition, and risked producing a discontented population and a rapid return to the old ways.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    He's not real.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Irish Fire


    "A more probable time would be late September"

    The ol' C.C. still not too sure though.........

    Did he even exist in the first place?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    danniemcq wrote: »
    ..Because Rome dominated most of the “Christian” world for centuries...

    And still does unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭up for anything


    I'm not sharing my birthday with Easter every year. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    The contradiction has presented what has been described as "the thorniest problem in the New Testament".

    if the exact date a bunch of lads had dinner is the "thorniest problem in the new testament" then religion has got no problems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    RichieC wrote: »
    He's not real.

    /pedantic mode

    Historically, it's quite possible Jesus was a real man, but if he did exist it's more likely he was proclaimed a Prophet, and Son of God was more likely a a generous "title" as such.

    p.s. not a Religious person in the slightest, just a bit of a history nerd.

    edit:
    I do think the law should be reverted, not because I'm a drinker and refuse to go the night without booze, but because I feel religion should not determine the law.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,242 ✭✭✭amacca


    why cant i get a drink in a pub on 'good-monday-tuesday-wednesday-thursday-whatever/'

    Because they are closed?

    anyway ...stock the **** up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Standman


    In other news, Thor's Hammer was actually a pick-axe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    danniemcq wrote: »
    Jesus was also born in September,

    where is your thread on that OP?

    I've read in several places that it was March.

    I also think very little of what was written in the bible is accurate. Far more likely that a man of that age in that age was married...probably Mary Magdelene


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