Mc Ilroy, Major?????

clanard

I read in a paper on Tuesday that Mc Ilroy was 4-11 to win a major in his CAREER, yes his CAREER. Cant believe the price, I think he will win one in the next couple of years.
But in saying that Garcia was only 19 when he nealy won the USPGA, but Tiger beat him. Did anyone think 12 years on that Sergio would still not of won one. Could this happen to Rory???
So what u all think???????

dvemail

McIlroy and Garcia are simliar in that they both burst onto the scene at a young age.
Both have an unbelievable long game but can struggle with the short stick.
But a big difference for me is mental "scarring" that McIlroy will supposedly get like Sergio.
I think though that as we are seeing so far this weekend in Malaysia, that Rory won't be as
affected by all the near misses he has and will have in his career compared to Garcia.

Well at least i hope so.

BiffoGooner

No, there's a big difference there. Sergio's attitude to the entire game stinks and Rory's doesn't. Plus Rory's a flat out better player. More accurate driver and better iron player in my opinion too. He'll sort that putting flaw out eventually and he'll win Majors. My estimate would be a career similar to Phil's, 3 or 4 Majors with a good few missed chances. He's too good not to win a few.

stockdam

I wouldn't worry too much if he doesn't win one.......it's not guaranteed.
Is Graeme Mc a better player than Rory.........not in my opinion but Graeme has won a major. All Rory can do is to do his best and if he is lucky enough to play well during a major and go onto win it then that's great.......if not then no big deal.

mag

BiffoGooner wrote: »

No, there's a big difference there. Sergio's attitude to the entire game stinks and Rory's doesn't.

since the masters have heard a lot of people comparing rory & sergio in that they both are (were) young, and tee to green are top notch but struggle with the putter. this point is key imho - garcia looks for someone or something to blame, rory doesnt. that one reason for me is why rory has potential to go on & win a few big ones.

Lapin

Last Sunday night / Monday morning many were saying it would take a long time (if ever) for McIlroy to recover from his nightmare at Augusta. Some even questioned whether he was right to travel to Malaysia.

His performance this weekend proves he has the mental ability to bounce back and he deserves full credit for that.

But Majors are a different beast with an additional pressure of their own. The demons of Augusta may not follow him everywhere on the tour, but may come back to taunt him at the US PGA, The Open etc. But I think he has what it takes to win at least one.

Career odds of 4- 11 don't help either and I think they offer poor value too. Assuming he has 20 years as a top pro ahead of him, he has 80 potential chances at winning a major. I reckon a €1 e/w individual stake in each tournament would yield a better return than the €64 profit a once off career bet of €160 would make on those odds.

Lets hope I'm still here in 20 years to find out !

conno16

like harro, rory will have his day in the sun
i always expected him to win multiple majors though, possibly up to double digits
now i think he'll pick off maybe 3 / 4 over his career
clearly he'll be the greatest golfer NI has ever produced but hes no Jack or Tiger or Phil or even Huckleberry Dillinger

clanard

Interesting views lads, am not a big punter but I just feel 4-11 is a great price. I honestly think Rory will win on ein the next 2-3 years.
Any more opinions?

Bigcheeze

If you think he'll win one in the next 2-3 years the best thing you can do is bet on him in every major for the next couple of years. He'll probably be 30 or 40/1 to win so much better value than 4/11. Who knows where his career will be 5 or 10 years from now, he could totally lose it.

harpsman

God-ive lost count of the no. of people on here sayin that mcelroys proved hes recovered from mastrs cos he played well in malaysia-what a load of rubbish.
you ll know if hes recovered next time hes leading a major on sunday

bullmccabe2010

Rory did a great job in Malaysia! He was winning and bottled it again, only this time he did it in a sub standard field. If this is the future of golf then the records set by Tiger Woods and Jack Nicklaus are safe for a while yet.....

I'd bet on Shane Lowry winning a major before Rory!

aster99

I see your name starts with bull....you got the ending wrong though!!!

bullmccabe2010

aster99 wrote: »

I see your name starts with bull....you got the ending wrong though!!!

What a wonderful argument! I can see this is following the usual pattern-you don't back Rory and then the genius golf fans come on and reply with comments like this.

Should all Irish bow down before Rory and convince ourselves he is the greatest just because he is from the same island as us? No doubt people will say it's because he's ranked number 7 in the world. Westwood tops those rankings with Donald not far behind in third and neither have won a major. Maybe it's because he is young and will no doubt mature into a great champion who can handle pressure. Other young players such as Manassero and Day both seem to have the mental edge on Rory already and have proven it in the heat of the battle.

Rory is a decent player, but will probably never win a major as he folds under extreme pressure. That's my opinion and my answer to the question by the OP. Keep it real.

clanard

So still some mixed opinions on Rory. Its hard to know, I think he has the bottle to win one but suppose its still up for debate until he pulls it off.

clanard

I see Rory is 14-1 for this years Open so surely there is at least one Major in him somewhere. Surely the 4-11 is the best 4-11 shot of all time.

PhilipMarlowe

I'm not an expert on gambling but I'd pay attention to Lapins reply to you and that's even before you consider the future value of your money. Each way bets along the course of his career would give you a return even if placed, minimal effect on cashflow.
4/11 is not worth getting excited about IMO.

Decoy

He will have more opportunities to win majors, he's too good not to be in the mix, but based on what we've seen so far he does not yet have the mental fortitude to close the deal. As it stands those are the right odds for Rory to win a major at some stage during his career.

What differentiated Tiger (in his prime) from everyone else was not how he hit the golf ball , it was what went on between his ears. Now that his mind is mush his game doesn't stand up to the rigours of major championships.

heavyballs

bullmccabe2010 wrote: »

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Rory is a decent player, but will probably never win a major as he folds under extreme pressure. That's my opinion and my answer to the question by the OP. Keep it real.

decent player......??????
do you know anything about golf????
anything about the mecanics of the golf swing,...???????

nothing to do with his Irish roots,he's got the best swing in golf and to go back to your earlier comment that you'd fancy Lowery to win a major before Rory.......i hope your a troll

he proved what he can do to a top class field last year in Quail Hollow...all he needs is to sort his putting out then the confidence of his game as a whole will improve greatly

bullmccabe2010

heavyballs wrote: »

decent player......??????
do you know anything about golf????
anything about the mecanics of the golf swing,...???????

nothing to do with his Irish roots,he's got the best swing in golf and to go back to your earlier comment that you'd fancy Lowery to win a major before Rory.......i hope your a troll

he proved what he can do to a top class field last year in Quail Hollow...all he needs is to sort his putting out then the confidence of his game as a whole will improve greatly

Haha-here we go, another armchair expert from the Sky Sports school of golf! That is where you picked up the mechanics line isn't it?

I'm guessing you have never played a game of golf in your life as if you had then you would know that it's so much more than just a game of good swings. Sure, Rory has a great swing not unlike countless other professionals and he may even have one of the best in the business. However, mentally he isn't able to cope when the pressure is on and this is why he constantly comes up short. It's not just his putting he needs to sort out as his whole short game has never been great. That's a lot to sort out!

I think it's hilarious that you're using Quail Hollow as an example of his class when he is currently languishing in 121st place in this years tournament. Class eh? The only reason he won last year is because he went into Sunday with very little pressure as he was so far behind. He played the last round like a practice round and probably didn't know he'd won until 2 hours after he putted his last ball.

Meanwhile Lowry is comfortably making the cut in Spain this weekend. Perhaps you should concentrate on the mechanics of spelling his name right before you pull out the troll card!

PhilipMarlowe

Why this song from the fence?
Either he is going to win a major or he isn't.
Phrases like "he will probably never win a major" are just annoying. Sounds like a sceptic/critic hasn't got the conviction to make a definite case against.
If you feel that someone hasn't the guts to win one then leave out the probably and say so.

clanard

Yes thanks Licksy thats the question.
I think he will improve mentally and improve on the greens and I for one have no doubt that Rory will win a major. He is in a completely different class to Lowry.