Non-satisfactory report?

Maybe_Memories

Right, I haven't gotten one, I'm just curious about something.

I read on one part of the tcd site that if you get two NSs they can refuse you permission to take your exams, and if they were going to give you one you had to get it before the last week in Hilary term. So that's grand.

But, I read on the SU site that you can do your exams and get on grand and still be returned as NS and have to repeat the year because of that. My course doesn't give any specifics on getting NSs, it just says "if you don't attend regularly and are absent from tests and exams without good reason" may get an NS.

Just curious, anyone done their exams and then told they were NS?


Thanks!

Snow joke

Maybe_Memories wrote: »

Right, I haven't gotten one, I'm just curious about something.

I read on one part of the tcd site that if you get two NSs they can refuse you permission to take your exams, and if they were going to give you one you had to get it before the last week in Hilary term. So that's grand.

But, I read on the SU site that you can do your exams and get on grand and still be returned as NS and have to repeat the year because of that. My course doesn't give any specifics on getting NSs, it just says "if you don't attend regularly and are absent from tests and exams without good reason" may get an NS.

Just curious, anyone done their exams and then told they were NS?


Thanks!

It means you didnt show up to enough labs/lectures/tutorials and because of this they wont allow you to sit your exams.

Simple solution, dont get an NS report!

Maybe_Memories

I think you misread.. That wasn't my question.

My question was about getting an NS after you've sat your exams.
In other words you get your results and you get, say, a few firsts and seconds, a pass and a NS. Does this actually happen? I've only seen it on the SU site and not in the whole "calander" thing.

Mark200

If you don't make a reasonable effort in an exam then they can refuse to allow you to repeat the exam, and so you'd have to repeat the year. But I don't think I know anyone that that has happened to.

Maybe_Memories

So it doesn't happen where they let you sit the exam, you pass, and then they say "you didn't hand in enough assignments. we're failing you even though you got a I in the exam. sorry." ?

Groinshot

Maybe_Memories wrote: »

So it doesn't happen where they let you sit the exam, you pass, and then they say "you didn't hand in enough assignments. we're failing you even though you got a I in the exam. sorry." ?

That would be somewhat reasonable really on their part, but I think you have to be notified already?

Aoibheann

Maybe_Memories wrote: »

So it doesn't happen where they let you sit the exam, you pass, and then they say "you didn't hand in enough assignments. we're failing you even though you got a I in the exam. sorry." ?

I would imagine that is extremely unlikely - that they would already have notified someone. To be fair, it's probably not too often that someone gets a first in a subject having not handed in any assignments (of course, it happens, it's just less likely when one is not familiar with the lecturer's style).

Oh, and for at least one of your courses, the marking is something like max(E;0.2H +0.8E), so the assignments are only there to improve your marks in those cases. Chances are you wouldn't get an NS for such a subject. And, despite knowing an awful lot of people who don't hand up assignments in general in our department, I don't know a single person who has been given an NS. I'd imagine you'd know about it by now if you were getting one, as I said.

Maybe_Memories

Thanks for the replies!

I emailed my tutor, explained the situation to him, and asked what the story is. Better be on the safe side

dabh

It seems to me that the OP may be worrying unduly about this matter.

Policy with regard to NS returns typically varies from degree programme to degree programme: and NS returns, I believe, are typically made in cases of students who fail to attend things like language tutorials, laboratory classes, or hand in assignments. There are some programmes where, AFAIK, no NS return has been made in living memory.

With regard to examinations, I have not come across anything like an NS being applied to an individual paper or module. I believe we are talking about people who fail to show up for examination, and fail to provide any explanation, or no good explanation. Doing badly on a particular paper would result in a fail result on that paper, but would not disqualify candidates from supplementals.

Were it the case that a candidate is excluded from the course, and denied supplemental papers, then the appropriate course of action would be to contact the tutor without delay. But unless the candidate is intending to, say, go off on a beach holiday in Thailand over the examination period...

CIARAN_BOYLE

Maybe_Memories wrote: »

Just curious, anyone done their exams and then told they were NS?


Thanks!

A friend of mine had a module where there was 10% going on attendance/tutorial participation, 15% each for two term tests, and 10% for a project with the final 50% going for the exam.

He did well enough to pretty much pass the class before going in so just did one question in the exam to be sure of a pass and then left.

He was given an NS for not taking the exam seriously.

It was his first NS so it didn't effect anything, just a point of interest for you

Maybe_Memories

So he was still allowed do the supplementials?

CIARAN_BOYLE

Maybe_Memories wrote: »

So he was still allowed do the supplementials?

Yeah your first NS doesn't have any effect